Once again, Feinstein plumbs the depths of cluelessness

[PurityOfEssence]

Dressed in her standard hideous frump ensemble, and addressing the world with her usual dazed catatonic look, Di Fi just said that she would vote "no" on the recall, but not vote for anyone to replace.

That's just idiotic.

If Bustamante can start pulling away, some of the Orange, San Diego, San Bernardino, Riverside, Kern and other naziwhite voters may even be forced to vote against the recall just to keep some "damn meskin" from being elected. But if slobbering sub-ninnies like this shining example of the uselessness of hereditary wealth (thanks for the phrase, F. Scott Fitzgerald...) get listened to, the forces of darkness and idiocy may yet prevail.

Personally, I think it would be fabulous karma to the right to outfox themselves and get an Hispanic Governor.

Feinstein is in ridiculously over her head, and has been since the day Dan White handed her a career. She's not mean or selfish, she's just a urban moderate version of Kay Bailey Hutchison. Why can't this country have smart Senators? Oh, well, at least we've got the fabulous Barbara Boxer.

[Doug Decker]

1. You sound like you know her...

I got a good laugh at your post. Very funny.

[Brian Sweat]

2. Feinstein is a DINO anyway.

[slackmaster]

3. I can't understand her position on this

If Bustamante can start pulling away, some of the Orange, San Diego, San Bernardino, Riverside, Kern and other naziwhite voters may even be forced to vote against the recall just to keep some "damn meskin" from being elected.

On behalf of the residents of San Diego County:

Bite us.

[PurityOfEssence]

8. Yes, it makes absolutely no sense.

Perhaps you misunderstand a little of what I was getting at: I said what you quoted there, not her. To me it's just a silly turnaround on the dark forces in this state if they get rid of their Moriarty and somehow get Inigo Montoya.

Sorry to thump on your county, I actually lived there for awhile (in the fascist North County, no less) so I know the lay of the land somewhat.

There are sane elements in San Diego, and it's a great city, so no offense meant; it's tough to live amongst the trogs, though.

Just rhetorical flourish on my part...

[liberalhistorian]

9. Yeah, but there are, you have to admit, a lot of

"naziwhite" voters in those areas, and if you're on DU I think that's a strong indication that you're not one of them and the poster wasn't referring to you!

[slackmaster]

19. Perhaps I'm a little hypersensitive to terms like "naziwhite"

Besides being a San Diegan I am white and of German ancestry. Sure, there are a lot of Republican voters in my area but crass characterizations like "naziwhite" with all their innuendo and historical baggage serve only to alienate people.

Republicans are not all white.
Most Republicans are not Nazis.
Most white people in San Diego County are not Republicans.

If you add up Democrats + independents here you get a majority, just like in most of California.

I know name-calling is traditionally tolerated on DU when it is aimed at Republicans or conservatives, but I find the comparison to the Nazis to be both tasteless and inaccurate.

[DealsGapRider]

23. Well said

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[PurityOfEssence]

25. Fair enough

I'm a white male of German descent too, as well as of other Northern European blood. Admittedly, it's been a while since I've lived in North County, but on my visits back since then, it hasn't gotten any better.

There are actual real-live swastika-loving nazis in them thar hills, I guarantee ya. It's meant as hyperbole, though, and that's that.

There are some very serious Birchers and other nuts out there; remember: Metzger is from Fallbrook. This part of the world has some serious fascist extremists who are just as wild as any in other parts of the country. One of the dangerous misconceptions that people have about California is it's "liberalness"; it's only gone blue in the last ten years, and that's merely overall. The bastions of intolerance are huge and organized.

It obviously doesn't apply to you, but it really does apply to some of your and my neighbors as I type this very entry. And for some of them, there's no exaggeration about it. Sure, the word "nazi" gets bandied around a lot, and I do it too, but if the jackboots fit...

I was also using it to point out the specific racist element when the local supremacists wake up and realize that they may get some dang brown Governor.

'Nuff said?

[Yentatelaventa]

4. But she backed banning guns in the past?

For that someone must owe her something? No?

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

10. another ignorant misstatement..how rare

she backed banning handguns and automatic weapons...imagine that..a woman comes to office when a popular mayor is assassinated by a handgun..while she is IN office a law office is shot up by a whacked out nut with an automatic weapon and she acts to limit the sales (within reason) of the instruments that made it possible.

[Yentatelaventa]

12. Automatic weapons were banned more than 30 years ago

You perhaps meant SEMI-auto weapons where a cartridge is loaded after each trigger pull. Exactly like the ones used for hunting and sport and the only distinguishing factoring being cosmetic and not fuction.

I would be happy to debate any and all technical details of weapons and their function with you if you dare.

Ban whacked nuts and not the tools they use.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

22. I don't share the obsession with instuments of death that some do so I

would be happy to not debate you on the subject. MY POINT is that she came to office as a result of one tragedy with a weapons and not long after was confronted with another tragedy.

Weapons end up in the hands of the wrong people sometimes and certainly there is no need for certain types that can SEMIAUTOMATICALLY take out everyone in a workplace in a matter of moments.

BTW, California used to take care of the "whack nuts" but Reagan devastated the public infratructure for that.

I ntoice you are very critical of Democrats in general...are there any you support?

[Yentatelaventa]

32. I support Dean and Bernie Sanders

The rest are up for grabs in my book of rules. And you?

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

33. I just find it interesting that the bulk of your posts are actually

slamming democrats whether it is Dems in California, progressive taxation, issues concerning the separation of church and state ( I noticed in LBN you have a rather narrow view of the bill of rights...i.e. support free speech but not freedom of ( as in also FROM) religion, you post 5 year old stories about NASCAR Dems VS the Sierra club as though the issue is current and you don't seem to know Saunders is an INDEPENDENT not a DEM.

I mean believe me I am happy you don't march in lockstep with this site but you seem to march mainly to the tune of other sites I have seen.

Your primary source of happiness seems to come from slamming all things liberal and progressive...perhaps I am mistaken.

[NickB79]

18. Hmmm, automatic weapons were generally banned in 1937

Odd how we have to keep rebanning things all the time.

"a woman comes to office when a popular mayor is assassinated by a handgun" So, did that handgun get life in prison, or the death penalty by smelting? Damn clever handgun to know how to pull its own trigger, what with having no fingers and all.

[slackmaster]

20. The National Firearms Act was enacted in 1934

And it doesn't ban anything but requires registration of automatic weapons, short-barrelled shotguns, etc. and a tax on transfers of same.

[Yentatelaventa]

31. One minor detail

It will cost you 500 bucks a year to own any of the "not banned" weapons of which you speak.

[slackmaster]

21. Yes, I almost quit the party because of that

I think we owe her a swift kick in the butt for suggesting it.

[The Sushi Bandit]

5. Dont hold back.. tell us what you realy think..

[KC21304]

6. I cannot understand that thinking either.

It is bad enough that the media whores get away with suggesting the Dems are somehow disingenuous for voting no on recall and then for a replacement if recall wins.

What if it were two separate elections. If Davis got recalled and then an election were held for his replacement, would not the Dems be expected to run a candidate or are we suppose to let the REpugs have it all to themselves ?

Well, they are having the two elections together, to save time and money I suppose. Have a brain, Diane.

[Khephra]

7. I don't like Ah-nold...but she picked the wrong argument to use

Ah-nold makes violent movies, so he's not fit to be gov. (paraphrased)

I spit out my coke when I heard that. There are soooooo many reasons that Ah-nold won't make a good gov. Did she really need to make it about violence in entertainment?

[Gin]

11. How she actually votes, we will never know. Maybe she is showing

support for electoral the process and Davis by saying she will vote no and nothing else.

[Julien Sorel]

16. That's what I think.

But I agree with the original poster: Feinstein is remarkably unremarkable. I interviewed her during her initial Senate run in, I think, '92 or so. I had high expectations for her, having liked her as mayor of San Fran, but she was awful -- just repeating the same answer to almost every question, while looking at me with this deer-caught-in-the-headlights expression. By that point she was a seasoned pol, and should have been able to do better. I lost all respect for her after that, and her mediocre performance as a senator has done nothing to get it back.

[PurityOfEssence]

14. Some people can't ever stop playing to the cheap seats

Do ya love me now? Huh? Do ya? See, I support the President. I do, I really do...even though he's wrong. Guns bad. Guns bad. Booga-booga.

Her heart's more or less in the right place, but she's a classic example that in this life, especially in prominent public service, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH. She's as dumb and stodgily clueless as Susan Collins is sweet and giddy dumb. It's a simple case of circuitry. Even if one has a more or less decent heart, if one's dim, COMPLETELY out of touch, spineless and obsessed with how one is perceived...well, then one is useless.

She does not understand how the world works, she's been insulated from it for her entire life. It's an almost amazing display of predestined momentum fueled by no personal merit. Another shining moment for hereditary capitalism.

It's like she's a bizarrely bland society matron hosting some kind of coctail party without enough canapes or hard liquor on hand: she doesn't sense the discord around her and she doesn't get the jokes. If she could mail-order in some pizzaz some day, still the best she could hope to be would be Margaret Dumont. (She never got the jokes either...)

[xchrom]

24. i'm with ya

she's a prime example of how the priveledged get it wrong.
it's a dog fight out here. and no punches are going to be pulled -- this whole affair isn't nice.
it's going to be difficult for me to vote for a candidate when i'm so against the recall -- it's going to cost what 70 mil and we ain't got no money. oy -- what a joke.

[kentuck]

13. It is my understanding she has had a long running feud with Bustamante...

At least, that's what my wife tells me and she is well-read. :)

[PurityOfEssence]

17. If Mao Tse-Tung and Chiang Kai-Shek could kiss and make up

long enough to get rid of the common enemy, she can certainly get over THAT.

I've never heard of that; if that's the case, then I have even less respect for her. (Yes, that's possible.) I thought she was doing something imbecilic on "principle" or something.

It's all a vast conspiracy of complete dunderheadedness on the part of prominent politicians to crush our will toward logical thinking. I'm sure of it. There can be no other explanation.

[UTUSN]

15. ???So, Why Do the Media Yakkers Paint Her as

a super-power in the state, who would have easily taken the spot if she had run?

[ferg]

26. Because the media loves Feinstein

I'm not entirely sure why, but probably because she changes her opinion to match whatever the media is saying on any particular week.

[PATRICK]

27. Proof that Dems are a huge majority

Because even naive politicans can get into office without a clue. Right now the recall vote needs strength and pizzazz of which there is a GENUINE abundance if they would draw upon it. Disguising rationality, virtue and intelligence in grey coats is asking a lot of the emotionally besieged populace.

They need emotional stroking besides the intellectual correctness especially since the state sytem is so unsatisfactory. Maybe they want both real functional politicians and wise bureacrats wrapped in one?
Power to the people, not stagnant ideals.

[Doomsayer13]

28. She's being loyal to Davis

Plus, we need to keep our eye on the ball here, and that is defeating this recall.

[CMT]

29. well I guess that is her way of being loyal to Gov. Davis

but the facts are Cruz is the one well known dem on the ballot and as a precaution people who don't want Davis recalled and vote NO should still vote for Cruz or else we might end up with Davis recalled and Arnold in the Governors mansion.

[Eloriel]

30. I saw that clip and absolutely couldn't believe it

Good grief.

It leaves me speechless. There isn't even anything I can think of to say, other than maybe, "PLEASE someone run against her next time."

Eloriel