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Noordam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 07:27 PM
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Go look at CNN on the Fox ruling lost
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/08/22/fox.franken/index.html

COULD the picture of the book be bigger :evilgrin:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 07:30 PM
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1. Love this "Chin" judge....is he a Lib or what?
Yeah! Good size picture of "the book"! :-)
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 07:58 PM
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2. Well, he can't be a conservative.
He's actually upholding the law. ;)

Franken should sue Fox News for defamation of character, slander, libel, and emotional distress. Not for the lawsuit or being named "shrill," but for the idea that Franken isn't "good enough to be endorsed by Fox News."

Damn, to be lower than that pusillanimous pile of sh*t is a true insult.


Franken describes the Fox News Channel as "obviously slanted to the right" and its chairman, former Nixon-Reagan-Bush strategist Roger Ailes, as "a cynical Republican ideologue with no regard for fairness and balance." A chapter focused on O'Reilly is subtitled, "Lying, Splotchy Bully."

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AnnabelLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 08:04 PM
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4. "Lying, splotchy bully"
BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!! Damn, that's satisfying.:D
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St. Jarvitude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 05:00 AM
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15. He couldn't sue for "slander"...
Ann "The Man" Coulter would be on him like a rabid dog. :evilgrin:
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 08:07 PM
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5. A good article on Judge Chin:

http://www.law.virginia.edu/home2002/html/news/2003_spr/chin.htm

Judge Chin seems to be a straight shooter who doesn't carry any agenda into his decisions except to uphold the law.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 08:15 PM
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6. He is definitely fair and balanced
unlike the plaintiff.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 08:22 PM
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7. Lib or what?
If you use good judgement and apply the law - you're just being a good American. No sides should be needed. Our government, our courts, our rights - of the people, for the people, by the people.

Bring a laughable case and you will be thrown out.
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calm_blue_ocean Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 09:45 PM
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17. well put, hc
The judicial goal of tuning out liberal / conservative / centrist agendas should be especially important on questions of intellectual property (eg, trademark) and, more precisely, on the issue of balancing intellectual property with free speech.

Parties from all over the political spectrum can easily create intellectual property, such as trademarked slogans and copyrighted articles. If Fox had won on Friday, the liberals (like us) would have a good roadmap for harrassing and hampering conservative pundits and media outlets in the future.

However, people from all over the political spectrum should understand that intellectual property should not be our battleground -- rather, policy and substance should be our battleground. I would hope that Judge Chin would have known this much, even had he been a Reagan appointee who thought that Megan's law was a splendid idea.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 08:02 PM
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3. Ahahaha
So all the pox news channel did was give Franken free advertising - a LOT of it. LOeffinL!

"Wholly without merit" wonder how the no-spin miester will report this. The bubbleheaded coward probably won't even have Al on (or will die beggin Al to come on, he he he).
\
Maybe o'yawnly will yell "shut up" to the judge from his increasingly irrelevent perch.

Don't these morons ever learn?
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 08:27 PM
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8. SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
That is my fair and balanced reply
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OldCurmudgeon Donating Member (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 12:27 AM
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11. no, the news will go
..right down the memory hole.

"Lawsuit? What lawsuit?"
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 10:48 PM
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9. What a great article!
I loved this part:

During oral arguments, Chin brought up one of O'Reilly's books, "The Good, the Bad and the Completely Ridiculous in American Life" as an example of a similar play on a well-known phrase -- in this case, the title of a Clint Eastwood movie, "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly."

"Isn't Mr. O'Reilly doing exactly the same thing?" Chin asked.


So what does O'Really think -- it's okay for him but not for anyone else? I bet Faux appeals -- O'R won't stop whining.

SHUT UP! SHUT UP!
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 12:17 AM
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10. Here's my favorite quote from the article:
Attorney Dori Hanswirth, representing Fox News, disagreed, saying the intent was different. She contended that Franken's book cover did not qualify as satire.

"This is much too subtle to be considered a parody," she said."
(added emphasis mine)

Doesn't that mean that they believe Fox's audience isn't smart enough to pick up on subtleties and they only understand things that are simplistic so they don't have to think too much?

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 01:02 AM
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13. Yeah, much too subtle and nuanced for the easily duped Faux viewers
Subtlety and Nuance is -- oh just shut up, just shut up !!
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 10:14 PM
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19. Judge Chin brought up an excellent point
And shouldn't Bill owe the FOX News Channel for using the phrase "The O'Reilly Factor" as the title of one of his books? Doesn't FOX have the rights to that name?
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 12:41 AM
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12. Thanks for the reminder!
I just remembered that the book has been released already, so my order is now in! Thanks, Fox! Thanks for all of the free publicity!
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 04:29 AM
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14. This is one of the best things that's happened all year. :)
In yo' face, O'Reilly!

I wonder how Fox's suit against agitproperties.com is going? :eyes:
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 03:43 PM
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16. Kick for the Law, a Real Judge, FRANKEN, & Faux's Shaming n/t
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 10:07 PM
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18. LOL!
Yeah, nice pic of the book!

I still can't for the life of me see what Fox thought they had to gain from this?? It was patently absurd. Maybe they thought they could whip a frenzy of negative public opinion for Franken like happened with the Dixie Chicks. But it backfired.
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