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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 12:56 AM
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What Can Anyone Tell Me About Sojourners?
As in the publication "Sojourners: Social Justice and Spirituality".

Are they really progressive or is it a wolf in sheep's clothing type of an organization?
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LearnedHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 12:58 AM
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1. Haven't seen the publication...
...but isn't it named for Sojourner Truth? (I think I read that somewhere.) Do you have a link?
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 01:11 AM
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4. Here you go
Sojourners Online - http://www.sojourners.com

Sojourners is a progressive Christian commentary on faith, politics, and culture. It seeks to build a movement of spirituality and social change.

...........

Sometimes it's just so damn hard to tell with religion sites. There's quite a few of them on the Right that trick you in before hitting you with the hard-core theocracy BS. The site looked good on first look, so I was hoping it was the real thing. But still, it always pays to double check with the DU crew. ;-)
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 02:26 AM
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6. Amen...
It's difficult to tell with ANY sites.

I run across them every so often, ran into them a lot in the anti-war movement, and they don't seem much different than many other progressive groups. Definitely not the wolf, but perhaps an acquired taste.

Check out the staff-- there are a few names there that should be recognizable and give a clue where thy're coming from.



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MoonGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 01:04 AM
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2. My g/f used to subscribe to it...
... and the impression that I've gotten from her is that it's legitimately progressive.
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 01:06 AM
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3. They have a weekly newsletter via email that can be subscribed to
so you can come up with a fair and balanced opinion of your own. They are basically Christian and Spiritual, I would say left of center, but I only subscribed to the e-letter for a few months.
The weekly email is free. They seemed to explore some of the more recent spiritual trends in modern Chritianity ---was my take on them.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 01:12 AM
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5. Thanks Dude!
I'm looking forward to seeing you again!

:hi:
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joycep Donating Member (847 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 06:50 AM
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7. I love Sojourners
The web thing anyway. I don't think I have read the publication. Jim Wallis is great. He has written several books. The last one I can remember is "Who speaks for God". His premise is that not everyone who speaks about what God wants is not correct. He's into feeding the hungry, etc. instead of all the baloney the so-called religious right puts out.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 07:34 AM
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8. Sojourners are real.
Edited on Sat Aug-23-03 07:37 AM by enough
They have been around for a very long time, working for peace and justice. Very committed, long-haul activists. Their Christianity is the basis for their beliefs, but it's a Christianity the *Bushites wouldn't even recognize -- Christianity based on love.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 07:50 AM
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9. Cool!
I'm trying to find progressive religious groups/sites for my work, so these folk will be a good addition to my links.

Thanks everyone!
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mojogeorgo Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 08:30 AM
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10. Religious Left, and Sojourner's Article on Bush
If you are looking for progressive religious links, you might take a look at http://religiousleft.blogspot.com

There is a links page there that might have some links you don't have yet. The most recent blog entry was about a Sojourner's article: Dangerous Religion
http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=magazine.article&issue=soj0309&article=030910
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 08:55 AM
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11. Thanks for the tips!
:-)
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 09:28 AM
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12. I first encountered Sojourners in the 1980s
when I was involved in anti-nuke and Central American causes.

I believe that the original group was Mennonite. As you may know, the Mennonites are pacifists, and as with the Quakers, once you start being committed to peace, you start noticing all the interconnected systems and situations that prevent peace.

They've moved beyond the bounds of the Mennonite Church and now attract leftist Christians of all denominations. They're excellent at pointing out the Biblical passages that fundamentalists never seem to be able to find, :-) and they provide news on the efforts of Christians around the world to achieve peace and justice.

The one stance of theirs that might alienate progressives is that they are against abortion, but they're not the clinic-bombing, doctor-shooting types. Instead, their anti-abortion stance is part of their whole emphasis on non-violence. Their practical stance is much closer to "If you're against abortion, don't have one" than to "Show how pro-life you are by killing doctors." On the whole, though, they rarely mention it, and they're more into reducing the need for abortion, by fighting violence against women, poverty, lack of contraception, and other factors that cause unwanted pregnancies.

They're based in a cooperative spiritual community in Washington D.C. that does a lot of feeding and clothing and sheltering of the destitute.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 09:42 AM
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13. I can deal with people with an complete life ethic
It's the pro-war, pro-death penalty fundies who want to bomb clinics that I have a problem with.
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 10:36 AM
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14. I get the magazine...
And they seem to be supporting Kucinich for the nomination. That should say to me: really progressive. Also, this month's issue has a picture of a Caesar statue with Bush's head on it, further clarifying that they are, in fact, not right-wingers.

There are probably several Christian groups called sojourners, but the one that you're referring to can be found at www.sojo.net

Dob Bole
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 01:02 PM
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15. Jim Wallis is a national treasure
Edited on Sat Aug-23-03 01:10 PM by grasswire
If you are interested in progressive religious entities, you should also check out The Other Side, which is a peace and justice magazine of very high quality. http://www.theotherside.org, if I recall correctly. (My computer is running funky or I would confirm that.)

Also the Tikkun community, which is Jewish and headed up by Rev. Michael Lerner. tikkun.org

Lerner and Wallis have formed the center of a movement called the Call to Renewal from which came the Politics of Meaning (a book favored by the Clintons).
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 01:10 PM
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16. history of Sojourners
Sojourners ministries grew out of the Sojourners Community, located in Southern Columbia Heights, an inner-city neighborhood in Washington, D.C. The community began at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Deerfield, Illinois, in the early 1970s when a handful of students began meeting to discuss the relationship between their faith and political issues, particularly the Vietnam War. In 1971, the group decided to create a publication that would express their convictions and test whether other people of faith had similar beliefs. What emerged was an evangelical publication committed to social justice and peace: The Post-American.

In the fall of 1975, the fledgling community moved to Washington, D.C., where both the community and the magazine took the name Sojourners. The biblical metaphor "sojourners" identifies God's people as pilgrims—fully present in the world but committed to a different order—and reflects their broadening vision. No longer defined solely by Sojourners magazine and its exploration of issues of faith, politics, and culture, the group branched out into ministry in its low-income neighborhood.

The community lived together in common households, had a common purse, formed a worshipping community, got involved in neighborhood issues, organized national events on behalf of peace and justice and continued to publish the magazine.

The community also gave birth to a variety of ministries, including the Sojourners Neighborhood Center, which runs after-school and summer programs for local children.

Over the years, however, Sojourners went through a variety of transitions. Slowly, the household communities gave way to an intentional community (with a common rule of life), the neighborhood center became a separate "not-for-profit" and people moved out of the community to care for their own families. Needless to say, Sojourners has suffered its own history of division, uncertainty, and glory.

Today, many people who work at Sojourners have never been a part of the community. Rather, we are a committed group of Christians who believe in the biblical call to integrate spiritual renewal and social justice. We continue to publish the magazine, we have developed an award winning web site, we publish resources, we engage the wider Christian community through our preaching, teaching, public witness, and organizing, and we sponsor a year of volunteer service in ministry, discipleship and community.

Sojourners office building houses Sojourners magazine and Call to Renewal, a network of people, churches, and organizations working to overcome poverty. We have provided leadership and support over the years to various other activities including Witness for Peace, the Pledge of Resistance, the Nuclear Weapons Freeze Campaign, the Free South Africa movement.

Rooted in the solid ground of prophetic biblical tradition, Sojourners is a progressive Christian voice that preaches not political correctness but compassion, community, and commitment. We refuse to separate personal faith from social justice, prayer from peacemaking, contemplation from action, or spirituality from politics.

Sojourners includes evangelicals, Catholics, Pentecostals and Protestants; liberals and conservatives; blacks, whites, Latinos, and Asians; women and men; young and old. We are Christians who want to follow Jesus, but who also sojourn with others in different faith traditions and all those who are on a spiritual journey. We reach into traditional churches but also out to those who can't fit into them. Together we seek to discover the intersection of faith, politics, and culture. We invite you to join, to connect, and to act. Welcome to the community.

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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 01:16 PM
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17. look at this from sojourners web site
Dear Mr. President,

We are all leaders in the faith community, whose churches and faith-based organizations are on the front lines of fighting poverty. Many of us have supported your faith-based initiative from the beginning of the administration. Several of us have met with you to discuss the churches' role in overcoming poverty and have offered solid support to our friends John DiIulio and Jim Towey, who have led your Office of Faith Based and Community Initiatives. But while we have consistently backed faith-based approaches to poverty reduction, we have also insisted they must be accompanied by policies that really do assist low-income families and children as they seek self-sufficiency.

Mr. President, it is a critical time for poor people in America. Poor people are suffering; and our faith-based service providers see it every day in communities across the country. The poor are suffering because of a weakening economy. The poor are suffering because of resources being diverted to war and homeland security. And the poor are suffering because of a lack of attention in national public policy.

We are writing because of our deep moral concern about consistency in your administration's support for effective policies that help alleviate poverty. We believe a lack of focus on the poor in the critical areas of budget priorities and tax policy is creating a crisis for low-income people. We believe the budget your administration has put forward fails to protect and promote the well being of our poorest and most vulnerable citizens. The tax cut just passed by the Congress with your support provides virtually no help for those at the bottom of the economic ladder, while those at the top reap windfalls. The resulting spending cuts, at both federal and state levels, in the critical areas of health care, education, and social services, will fall heaviest on the poor. Budgets are moral documents.

You have taken many positive steps with regard to international aid and development, such as the HIV/AIDS initiative, and we would like to see that compassion manifest here at home. In significant social programs, like welfare reform, we have supported the proposals of your administration to strengthen marriage and family as effective antipoverty measures; but the companion pro-family commitments to invest in adequate child care, education, and training for our poorest families have fallen short in your administration's proposals. The most effective and bipartisan public policies for reducing poverty have not been adequately supported by your administration.

Over the past several years, we have advocated several policy initiatives in addition to the "faith-based initiative" that would help low-income people in this country. These include TANF reauthorization that makes poverty reduction a priority, targeted tax relief for low-income families, and funding for proven programs that would effectively reduce poverty. We believe administration support for such policies would be consistent with your stated commitment of being compassionate toward the poor, especially since you have spoken more about issues of poverty than many of your predecessors.

We recall your Notre Dame address two years ago, where you pointed out: "Government has an important role. It will never be replaced by charities. … Yet, government must also do more to take the side of charities and community healers, and support their work. … Government must be active enough to fund services for the poor -- and humble enough to let good people in local communities provide those services."

Mr. President, "the good people" who provide such services are feeling overwhelmed by increasing need and diminishing resources. And many are feeling betrayed. The lack of a consistent, coherent, and integrated domestic policy that benefits low-income people makes our continued support for your faith-based initiative increasingly untenable. Mr. President, the poor are suffering, and without serious changes in the policies of your administration, they will suffer even more.

When you announced the faith-based initiative, you pledged that: "I want to ensure that faith-based and community groups will always have a place at the table in our deliberations." Mr. President, it's time to bring faith-based organizations to the table where policy decisions are being made. We are concerned that the needs of poor people in America seem to have little influence in the critical policy decisions your administration is making. The faith-based-initiative seems to be the only place in your administration where poverty is prioritized, yet we know that faith-based initiatives alone will never be sufficient to solve the problems of poverty. As we have discussed with you the faith-based initiative, we now want to engage your administration in a serious conversation about domestic social policy. Mr. President, it's time to talk.

Sincerely,

Rev. Jim Wallis
Convener and President
Call to Renewal

David Beckmann
President
Bread for the World

Rev. Peter Borgdorff
Executive Director of Ministries
Christian Reformed Church

Lt. Col. Paul Bollwahn
National Social Services Secretary
The Salvation Army

J. Daryl Byler
Director
Washington Office
Mennonite Central Committee

Bart Campolo
President
Mission Year

Tony Campolo
President
Evangelical Association for Promotion of Education

Rt. Rev. John Bryson Chane
Bishop, Episcopal Diocese of Washington DC

Rt. Rev. Steven Charleston
President and Dean
Episcopal Divinity School

Dave Donaldson
President
We Care America

Rev. Dr. Robert Edgar
General Secretary
National Council of Churches in the USA

Dr. Robert M. Franklin
Presidential Distinguished Professor
Candler School of Theology
Emory University

Wayne Gordon
President
Christian Community Development Association

Rev. Wes Granberg-Michaelson
General Secretary
Reformed Church in America

Rev. Dr. Richard Hamm
General Minister & President
Christian Church -Disciples of Christ in the US and Canada

Rev. Mark Hanson
Presiding Bishop
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

Bishop Thomas L. Hoyt, Jr.
Presiding Bishop
Fourth District, Christian Methodist Episcopal Church
President-elect
National Council of Churches in the USA

David G. Hunt
President
American Baptist Churches USA

Hyepin Im
President
Korean Churches for Community Development

William "Bud" Ipema
Vice-President
Council of Leadership Foundations

Rev. Alvin Jackson
National City Christian Church
Moderator
Christian Church-Disciples of Christ in the US and Canada

Rev. Ted Keating, SM
Executive Director
Conference of Major Superiors of Men

Rev. Clifton Kirkpatrick
Stated Clerk
Presbyterian Church USA

Rt. Rev. Mark MacDonald
Bishop, Episcopal Diocese of Alaska

Bishop Felton Edwin May
Presiding Bishop
Baltimore-Washington Conference, United Methodist Church

Rev. Dr. A. Roy Medley
General Secretary
American Baptist Churches USA

Gordon Murphy
Executive Director
Christian Community Development Association

Rev. Glenn R. Palmberg
President
Evangelical Covenant Church

Bishop Donald A. Ott
Coordinator
United Methodist Council of Bishops Initiative on Children and Poverty

Carole Shinnick, SSND
Executive Director
Leadership Conference of Women Religious

Ron J. Sider
President
Evangelicals for Social Action

Rev. John H. Thomas
General Minister and President
United Church of Christ

Joe Volk
Executive Secretary
Friends Committee on National Legislation

Jim Winkler
General Secretary
General Board of Church and Society
United Methodist Church
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