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JasonBerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 12:21 PM
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EXCELLENT!
Very good Saturday morning rant, Q!

Why can't more people see this? Especially on this board of all places? Of course, we are told that to talk (or write) like this is too "radical." Actually, to not discuss this very fundamental issue is what is radical!

Some say we cannot engage in "class warfare".....it's a "losing" issue they say. My answer to that is yours - EDUCATE! There IS a class war going on in this country! Those who say not to talk about it are playing right into the hands of those who "accuse" us of class warfare. Well, clearly, the war on the working class (white collar, blue collar, purple collar it doesn't matter...) was launched by those who OWN everything. It is our DUTY to step up and fight the war THEY started!

We must never forget that in our history - labor history, heard of that lately? - we have gains like the weekend, sick-pay, the end of child labor on and on...thaqt history was not BOUGHT, it was PAID FOR by struggle in the workplace, on picket lines and sometimes paid for with blood and lives. To say now that to continue this fight is "not a winning issue" is actually quite true. We can't win it if we aren't willing to fight it!

I love your Resistance to the status quo, Q. We must all stand up and be counted as lovers of democracy and not wimps who accept the current plutocracy. It takes fighting. It's worth fighting.

How many on DU are willing to say - come Hell or High Water - we will FIGHT to make those who fought the fight before us proud. Let's not give up now.
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JasonBerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 12:22 PM
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1. OOps.....Sorry
This was meant as a reply to Q's post about plutocracy!
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 12:25 PM
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2. Sometimes I think the DNC needs to have History classes.
Seriously.
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Ein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 12:33 PM
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3. Nope.
You cannot even think about rebelling in any form. Not 'pragmatic', as I've been told by people here.

'Pragmastism', they win. Our anger will continue to be channeled into elections that swing things from bad to worse and back, and no real change in the social structure will happen.

Who cares, right?
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 12:57 PM
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6. A few words from those who KNOW
Edited on Sat Aug-23-03 12:59 PM by Eloriel
Power concedes nothing withut a demand. It never had and never will. -- Frederick Douglass


It is no measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society. -- Krishnamurti


Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them. -- Albert Einstein


When great changes occur in history, when great principles are involved, as a rule the majority are wrong. -- Eugene V. Debs


Do not submit. It is extremely critical that repression be met head on and that it be resisted with every fiber in our being. There is absolutely no compromise that can be made with it. As a matter of fact, compromise is what oppression feeds on. Without compromise it would be defeated. -- Harry Belafonte


Each of us is put here in this time and this place to personally decide the future of manking. Did you think you were put here for something less -- Chief Arvol Looking Horse
Props to SpiralHawk for having that in his sig line a while back.


When I despair, I remember that all thru history the wy of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invicible, but in the end they always fall. Always. -- Gandhi


When I care to be powerful -- to use my strength in the service of my vision, then it beomces less important whether I am afraid. -- Audre Lord


Cas your whole vote. A miority is powerless when it sides with the majority; it's not even a minority; but it becomes very powerful when it throws its whole weight against the majority. -- Ray McGovern, Veterans for Common Sense.org



Even after all this time
The Sun never says to the Earth,
"You owe me."

Look what a love like that does
It lights up the whole world.

A poem the MC of Def Poetry Jam read the first time I ever saw that show. Does anyone know his name?


First they ignore you.
Then they laugh at you.
Then they fight you.
Then you win. -- Gandhi



Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, "Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, and fabulous" Actually, who are y ou not to be? You are a Child of God. Your playing small doesn't serve the world. There's nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We were born to make manifest the glory of Gd that is within us. It's not just in some of us, it's in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are iberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others. -- Nelson Mandella



Posted in honor of Democracy's very own heroes right here at DU, DEMActivist and BevHarris.

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Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 12:40 PM
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4. I am Willing to Stand Up
and you are correct sir, it is class warfare.:toast:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 12:51 PM
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5. Interesting take on class warfare...Kerry vs. Bush
Candidate: John Kerry
Category: General Likeability
Grade: A

One of the most grating elements of American politics is the impulse for rich candidates to affect the symbolism of the middle class. (Witness the dauphin George W. Bush at his hardscrabble Texas ranch, jus' clearin' brush.) Cultural experience is of course not the sum total of anyone's character, but the impulse to obscure a privileged background for political gain is a glaring character flaw.

And in a primary where John Edwards pushes his millworker pedigree with Tourette's-like frequency, and Dick Gephardt counters that neither of his parents finished high school, the pressure for the better heeled candidates to play down their not-so-humble beginnings must be intense.

So give John Kerry credit for bucking this condescending campaign ritual. At a Mason City, Iowa, bowling alley, he framed his background in the noblest political tradition: "George Bush went to a nice, fancy high school like I did, but I came out of my fancy high school asking the question, 'Why can't everybody have a school like this?'"

That hits all the right notes--candor about inherited wealth, noblesse oblige, and a concern for the broader national interest. The media frequently invoke Kerry's Brahmin heritage to suggest that he's culturally isolated from the electorate, but the honesty and civic-mindedness Kerry displayed yesterday are quintessentially American cultural virtues.
>>>>
http://www.tnr.com/primary/index.mhtml?pid=608
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