Bush pal Sun Myung Moon -- what you should know

[Lars39]

Between viruses and moving from the old DU, I'm sure I'm not the only one that has lost some valuable links concerning Moon. I couldn't get the link to the Moon primer to work.

My contribution:

http://www.rense.com/general20/unholy.htm

Please add links.

[grasswire]

1. a suggestion

Maybe you could re-write your headline so people will understand that it is Rev. Sun Myung Moon and be drawn into it. Maybe something like

Bush pal Sun Myung Moon -- what you should know

Something like that.

[Lars39]

3. Thanks. I'll borrow that, if I may?

[blm]

2. here's some

from my fellow moonologists at bartcop:

http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/faith5.htm
"RELIGION TAX" OFFICE OPENS AS FRINGE GROUPS POISED TO DEMAND CASH
Web Posted: February 21, 2001
As President George W. Bush's White House Office of Faith-based and Community Initiatives opened today, reports proliferated that fringe religious sects including those affiliated with cultist Rev. Sun Myung Moon and a project run by the Church of Scientology will apply for public funds in order to operate social services
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Another potential suitor for the White House office could be the church operated by Korean cult evangelist Rev. Sun Myung Moon. Moon has been active on the religious right for nearly two decades. A 1977 congressional investigation tied Moon's Unification Church to the "Koreagate" scandal which involved influence buying within the U.S. government. It also revealed that following the 1961 coup, the Korean Central Intelligence Agency began subsidizing the Moon organization to "organize and utilize" the resources of the Unification Church in the U.S. "Moonies" landed key jobs in Washington, DC think-tanks, and in congressional offices. Moon and his satellite fronts were also involved with key religious right projects such as the World Anti-Communist League, and the Korean preacher worked closely with conservative leaders like direct mail wizard Richard Viguerie.
Now, Moon and his church -- re-christened the Family Federation for World Peace and Unification USA -- are reportedly making preparations to obtain funding to promote abstinence programs in schools.
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http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/bush2.htm
http://www.geocities.com/craigmaxim/p-politicians-governorgeorgewbush.html
Some history of the Bush/Moon connection
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Why is the Unification Church promoting George W. Bush in this way? The answer may be that the Moonies see their best hope for influencing American society and government through a Bush whitehouse. The question of a possible Bush initiative that would use a Moonie created program arises, because the cult has successfully sold their program to numerous public schools and churches in America already, many of which may be unaware of the Moonie connection.
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http://www.reprogram.net/nyt1.htm
Groups that want the money...

Here are some quotes from AU in 2001 on the subject of what was going on then....
http://www.au.org/churchstate/cs6013.htm
Reading further, they would have found out that the ALC is a project of the American Family Coalition and The Washington Times Foundation – both front organizations for the Rev. Sun Myung Moon, a controversial Korean evangelist and founder of the Unification Church. The "faith-based summit" itself was sponsored by Watts (R-Okla.), Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) and other top congressional Republicans, but efforts to promote it at the grassroots level were turned over to a Moon organization.
Why is the Republican Party working hand in glove with Moon front groups? The partnership stems largely from Moon’s phenomenal ability to make inroads in GOP and Religious Right circles. Despite his unorthodox theological views – Moon teaches that he is the new Messiah, sent by God to complete the failed mission of Jesus – Moon has had little difficulty penetrating the upper echelons of American conservatism.
While a number of Republican-aligned private organizations have promoted President George W. Bush’s religion funding scheme, only Moon won an official relationship with the Republican leadership to rally grassroots forces on behalf of the "faith-based" summit. This enhanced status enabled him to do grassroots political organizing – and religious recruitment – with the apparent blessing of Bush and his GOP allies in Congress.
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Even if you are of the mind to give the FBI the benefit of the doubt, it's how it is used politically by Bush which makes it a very bad thing. The republicans are using it as way to buy black votes. Rob Riley when running for governor of Ala. flew many black ministers to DC to meet with Bush's people on the potential potfull of dough through "Bush's" FBI. The WP did a good article exposing this. You know how we were told they were looking for 'democracy' in Iraq and all the time it was a lie. Well the idea that the republican party wants the black vote in earnest with real policies is a lie, too. They know if they can keep the preachers just from pushing the vote for dems and they can pick up a very small percent of the black vote they win. It has NOTHING to do with policies that would help the black community.
Bush is using the whole thing as a smokescreen to get votes and turn the country's problems over to the churches, sort of 'privatizing' them for the Lord. Here are couple very good articles that tell about that.
http://www.blackcommentator.com/issue_23.html
http://www.blackcommentator.com/29/29_e_mail.html
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Scroll down here to Arnold Ziffel's post "Moon's Money" if you want to know where the spending change to finance TWT and the conservatives takeover came from:
http://mikemalloy.pmachinehosting.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=1012
here are some highlights from a Moon site on the "Gold Watch Tour" when Moon handed out Gold watches to ministers across the country as his troupe gained a stronger foothold in the black community and promoted Bush's FBI. Don't worry about Father spending too much of his hard earned cash, the watches come from Christian Bernard, which Moon owns, so you can be sure those labor charges were low.
If you read the stories of the tour below they will make reference to Moon pushing the FBI. David Caprara, Moon's long time operative and FBI guy, the guy Bush put in charge of VISTA, was on the tour.
Bridgeport http://www.wewillstand.org/news/news_0227.html
In preparation for the evening program, tour co-sponsor, the American Family Coalition (AFC) held its first ever locally sponsored conference with some one hundred clergy and community leaders from throughout Connecticut in attendance. Discussion and talks focused on the issue of the White House faith-based initiative on government funding for certain types of community programs and outreach run by churches.
Featured speakers included civil rights pioneer and former Congressman Reverend Walter E. Fauntroy. David Caprara, President of AFC and former Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development under Jack Kemp also spoke. Participants came away with new ideas on how their organization might benefit from this influx of government aid and thus make a difference in their own communities.
Idaho http://www.wewillstand.org/news/news_0415_1.html
At 6:00AM there was already a line waiting for the doors to open.
Once inside, those attending were found to include several state legislators, the Idaho Secretary of State, Pete Cenarrusa, and Mr. and Mrs. Walema, of the Shoshone-Bannock tribe.
Houston http://www.wewillstand.org/news/news_0306.html
A 600-seat sanctuary, the Depnest Evangelistic Baptist Church, had been obtained, and its head, Pastor Ernest Williams, had said, "Reverend Moon is more than welcome to hold his event here. My church is his church."
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http://www.wewillstand.org/news/news_0305.html
Five gold watches, were awarded by Father Moon to 5 outstanding ministers and in addition there was a drawing for several more watches for all ministers in attendance.
http://www.wewillstand.org/news/news_0302.html
He also told the assembled that "I'm an expert on the spirit world," and "in the afterlife, he said, there are no nationalities or religious sects."
In the end, Father and Mother Moon handed out a few gold watches in honor
of the community service of some of the sacrificial clergy
http://www.wewillstand.org/news/news_0310.html
Finally, Father Moon received a special VIP invitation to hear the Mormon Tabernacle Choir Radio Broadcast as well a guided tour of the hallowed main Temple. Unfortunately he was not able to attend at this time as "he had to be about His Father's business" and was gone in a flash, headed west to Oregon.
http://www.wewillstand.org/news/news_0309.html
An early afternoon seminar conducted by Stephen Lazarus from the Center for Public Justice on the specifics of the Faith-based Initiatives programs proposed by the Bush Administration preceded the evening fellowship. According to Dr. David Burgess, the program coordinator, approximately 50 clergy and community leaders participated in the seminar.
http://www.wewillstand.org/news/news_0308.html
"Some have called Father Moon a cult leader, and I say to them, they said the same thing about Jesus.
"Some have said that he is a false prophet and I say to them this prophet gets a triple A (AAA) rating from the clergy that know him. He is triple A; Anointed, Appointed and Approved by God."
Rev. Harold White stated it well, saying, "We stood for what is right. We will stand with Father and Mother Moon. Through the midnight of darkness, God has brought Father and Mother Moon as a light to guide our way toward the Kingdom of God."
http://www.wewillstand.org/news/news_0315.html
Reverend Jesse Edwards of the Philadelphia Pentacostalists spoke briefly with conviction, reaffirming the heavenly annointing of Father Moon and this movement for reconciliation, revival, and interfaith rapprochement.
Reverend Dr. Connie Crawford Bansa of Chicago set the pulpit and the
banquet ablaze with her remarks as well.
"When Reverend Moon was called by God he must have asked God, just like Moses -- 'How am I, as a Korean man, going to evangelize America ?'
"God then must have told Father Moon,
'As I was with Moses, so shall I be with you. Do not worry about what to say.
Just Go! Go and proclaim my Word to America and my Word will do the rest.
Just open your mouth and shout!'
"He shouted and he was spit upon, He shouted and he was put in prison. Oh Glory, Glory, as it was with Jesus, they called him a liar, a blasphemer, a prince of demons, they lied upon him, put and prison and nailed him to the cross. But my God has power. Reverend Moon was lied on, talked about , cheated, mistreated, beaten and imprisoned but Glory ..........Gloooooooorieeeeeeee ! My God has power. We will stand. We will stand !"
http://www.wewillstand.org/news/news_0313.html
Local speakers included Arizona House Speaker Jim Weiers and Doug Wead, who lost his bid for an Arizona congressional seat and is an unofficial adviser to Bush
http://www.wewillstand.org/news/news_0312.html
The Oakland Tribune's headline was "Rev. Moon Stirs Up Fans in Oakland " with a second proclaiming, "Moon: Man, Woman Only Half A Person". Across the bay, The San Francisco Chronicle reported 2000 religious leaders had jammed the Oakland Convention Center banquet hall, the headline blazing proudly, "In Oakland, Moon Stresses Family."
Wasting no time, Father Moon, launched into an animated and impromptu talk about his joy at visiting the San Francisco/Oakland Bay Area again. "God intended men and women to be together as heterosexual pairs - man and woman together - he stated, and "there are many (here in the Bay Area) who do not accept the pair system for human beings."
Father and Mother Moon then presented gold watches to 3 area ministers for their outstanding work in the community. Several more gold (plated) watches were given to other deserving clergy. Five others from the general audience received a watch by lottery drawing as well.
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Hey, You know that interreligious body Moon is putting up to the UN next month? Moon has been pushing for for years. He gave the founders address to 1200 members of world clergy in 98 telling them to work toward that end.
http://www.sacredcow.com/allnew/index.php?n=index

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

5. Can't forget Parry's excellent works

The Bush-Kim-Moon Triangle of Money

At this past week’s summit, George W. Bush and South Korean President Kim Dae Jung disagreed publicly on how to deal with communist North Korea – Bush advocated a harder line. But the two leaders have a little-known bond in common: the political largesse of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon.

For more than three decades, Moon, the founder of the South Korea-based Unification Church, has spun a worldwide spider's web of influence, connecting to hundreds of powerful leaders through the silken threads of his mysterious money.

Moon’s beneficiaries include the Bush family and, according to U.S. intelligence reports, Kim Dae Jung.

Though seldom discussed publicly, the Moon-Bush connection has been reported before – and detailed in this publication. But Moon’s financial links to Kim Dae Jung – a longtime dissident who opposed the authoritarian governments that ruled South Korea during the Cold War – have remained secret.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2001/031001a.html


Rev. Moon, the Bushes & Donald Rumsfeld
George W. Bush’s choice of Donald Rumsfeld to be U.S. defense secretary could put an unintended spotlight on the role of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon – a Bush family benefactor – in funneling millions of dollars to communist North Korea in the 1990s as it was developing a missile and nuclear weapons program.

In 1998, Rumsfeld headed a special commission, appointed by the Republican-controlled Congress, that warned that North Korea had made substantial progress during the decade in building missiles that could pose a potential nuclear threat to Japan and parts of the United States.

"The extraordinary level of resources North Korea and Iran are now devoting to developing their own ballistic missile capabilities poses a substantial and immediate danger to the U.S., its vital interests and its allies," said the report by Rumsfeld's Commission to Assess the Ballistic Missile Threat to the United States.

"North Korea maintains an active WMD program, including a nuclear weapon program. It is known that North Korea diverted material in the late 1980s for at least one or possibly two weapons," the report said.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2001/010301a.html

Rev. Moon, North Korea & the Bushes
The Rev. Sun Myung Moon's business empire, which includes the conservative Washington Times, paid millions of dollars to North Korea's communist leaders in the early 1990s when the hard-line government needed foreign currency to finance its weapons programs, according to U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency documents.

The payments included a $3 million “birthday present” to current communist leader Kim Jong Il and offshore payments amounting to “several tens of million dollars” to the previous communist dictator, Kim Il Sung, the partially declassified documents said.

Moon apparently was seeking a business foothold in North Korea. But the transactions also raise legal questions for Moon and could cast a shadow on George W. Bush’s presidential campaign, given the Bush family’s longstanding financial and political ties to Moon and his organization.

Besides making alleged payments to North Korea’s communist leaders, the 80-year-old founder of the South Korean-based Unification Church has funneled large sums of money, possibly millions of dollars as well, to former President George H.W. Bush.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/101100a.html

many more articles here:

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/moon.html

[roughsatori]

4. This is a good idea, but I like GrassWire's suggestion

Edit the title to better to pull people in. Your link provides important information for us to know.

[The Night Owl]

6. Something I have wondered about...

I do not like the Rense site, but it has got me thinking...

If I remember correctly, George H.W. Bush's use of the term "New World Order" in a speech he gave in 1991 was highly controversial and sparked a media frenzy of questions and criticism. Despite the controversy surrounding the term "New World Order", Bush 41 still to this day advocates a "New World Order", but oddly, no one seems to mind anymore. He last spoke of his beloved "New World Order" at a speech he recently gave at Tufts on February 26, 2003. Here is a link to that speech...

http://enews.tufts.edu/stories/030303BushSpeech.htm

Excerpt from the speech...

We need to make clear that with the new world order we still have a chance to build is not some code for American imperialism, but rather a system in which freedom and self determination are the widely accepted norms.

Pardon me...

:puke:

Sure, 41... Your goal is to spread freedom and self determination. That is why you have so frequently denounced your friends, the Saudi Royals! Oops... You never have denounced the Saudi royals! My mistake!

Why was the presidential advocacy of a "New World Order" controversial in 1991, but seemingly no big deal today?

[jody]

7. Another sources if one is interested in a search of all material

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/index.html

[roughsatori]

8. Thanks Lars39 and all who are adding to this information

Here's a KICK!

[Lars39]

9. Thanks to all for the links.

Shameless kick to ask for more links. :)

[grasswire]

10. here's a kick....

.....for the dateless on Saturday night!

[Lars39]

11. A kick .....

for those who have to read before bedtime. :)

[Lars39]

12. Kick............for the weekday DUers.