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rjx Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 09:02 PM
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Timothy McVeigh -Oklahoma City bombing- Why did he do it?
I have been looking on the internet for a reason why he did it, but I can't find it. Was a reason ever given?
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galadrium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 09:03 PM
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1. I think it had something to do with the Branch Davidian standoff
That whole Waco Texas fiasco. McCveigh hated the feds for doing what they did.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 09:09 PM
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3. "the Branch Davidian standoff" that's the excuse they like to use.
However, I think there was way more to it then that, unfortunately, we'll never know the truth.
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galadrium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 09:14 PM
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10. Indeed. It would be nice to know everything about that screwed up freeper.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 09:42 PM
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17. especially since they carted any evidence out of there, post haste..
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ilovenicepeople Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 10:37 PM
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19. Did he do it?
The first thing I thought was why Oklahoma?Then I looked at a map of the USA (smack dab in the middle of the country) if it could happen in the middle of the country it could happen anywhere:scared: Then if you are to watch the initial local newscast there were 3 bombs in the building and one didn't go off so the bomb squad is shown going in then coming out with the bomb?Then all of a sudden the newscaster's get a call changing the story to the TRUTH (the look on their faces is priceless):wtf: also there is supposed surveillance footage of McVay's Ryder truck leaving an army base in Northern Oka. prior to the bombing. So to answer your question do I think Timmie's truck blew up half the federal building? HELL YEAH!!! I might be dumb but I'm not stupid.:hi:
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 09:08 PM
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2. Waco/Ruby Ridge
Anti government, Montana Militia type of guy.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 09:11 PM
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4. Well, he was a registered Republican and an NRA member....
Other than that, I have no idea.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 09:12 PM
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5. There was a democrat in the WH.
It's funny how when there's a democrat in the WH, all the republicans hate America.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 09:13 PM
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6. what I remember
He fought in Gulf War I and was very unhappy with the govt.

He was stationed at an army post in KS that was notorious for having lots of problems.

Branch-Davidian, Ruby Ridge, some guy in AR executed.

Read the Turner diaries.

Militia ties?????

I don't think anyone has come up with a reason.

And wasn't there some really funny hocus-pocus about his execution, Ashcroft giving a stay and talking to him and then immediately ordering the execution.

Although the stay had apparently been granted because of problems with the FBI lab and info not given to the defense attys.

Conspiracy theorists asked 'what did Ashcroft learn that made him want to shut McVeigh up forever?'
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the Kelly Gang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 09:13 PM
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7. Gore Vidal's book is the best for info on McVeigh
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 10:43 PM
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21. The Meaning of Timothy McVeigh, by Gore Vidal. link
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 09:13 PM
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8. Personal Problems n/t
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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 09:14 PM
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9. Saddam Hussein put him up to it
didn't you know that?
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Aunt Anti-bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 09:40 PM
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15. Nah, it was the Clenis!
Don't you know that's the cause of all of our problems. Even then.

:crazy:
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 09:18 PM
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11. because he asked inane questions
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 09:18 PM
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12. He told friends he'd been chipped in the military.
I'm not saying, and I won't argue, that he undoubtedly was chipped. But it's interesting he said so, one way or the other.

While visiting friends in Decker, Michigan, McVeigh complained that the Army had implanted him with a microchip, a miniature subcutaneous transponder, so that they could keep track of him. He complained that it left an unexplained scar on his buttocks and was painful to sit on.... According to Dr. Carl Sanders, the developer of the Intelligence Manned Interface (IMI) biochip, "We used this with military personnel in the Iraq War where they were actually tracked using this particular type of device."

It is also interesting to note that the Calspan Advanced Technology Center in Buffalo, NY (Calspan ATC), where McVeigh worked, is engaged in microscopic electronic engineering of the kind applicable to telemetrics. Calspan was founded in 1946 as Cornell Aeronautical Laboratory, which included the "Fund for the Study of Human Ecology," a CIA financing conduit for mind control experiments by emigre Nazi scientists and others under the direction of CIA doctors Sidney Gottlieb, Ewen Cameron, and Louis Jolyn West.

According to mind control researcher Alex Constantine, "Calspan places much research emphasis on bioengineering and artificial intelligence (Calspan pioneered in the field in the 1950s)." In his article, "The Good Soldier," Constantine states: "Human tracking and monitoring technology are well within Calspan's sphere of pursuits. The company is instrumental in REDCAP, an Air Force electronic warfare system that winds through every Department of Defense facility in the country. A Pentagon release explains that REDCAP "is used to evaluate the effectiveness of electronic-combat hardware, techniques, tactics and concepts." The system "includes closed-loop radar and data links at RF manned data fusion and weapons control posts." One Patriot computer news board reported that a disembodied, rumbling, low-frequency hum had been heard across the country the week of the bombing. Past hums in Taos, New Mexico, Eugene and Medford, Oregon, Timmons, Ontario and Bristol, England were most definitely (despite specious official denials) attuned to the brain's auditory pathways.

As Constantine notes, the dystopian implications were explored by Defense News for March 20, 1995: "Naval Research Lab Attempts To Meld Neurons And Chips: Studies May Produce Army of 'Zombies'".... "It's conceivable," according to Constantine, "given the current state of the electronic mind control art, a biocybernetic Oz over the black budget rainbow, that McVeigh had been drawn into an experimental project, that the device was the real McCoy."

http://www.parascope.com/articles/0197/mcveigh.htm

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olddem43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 09:21 PM
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13. McVeigh himself was, in a way, a victim of RW propaganda.
He was so dumb that he bought all the lies of people like Limpbag, Liddy, et al, and decided to act on it. These people should be arrested and sent to prison for inciting terrorism.
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NEDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 09:33 PM
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14. Turner Diaries/Brainwashing
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 09:41 PM
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16. Huumm Reminds me of the Manchurian Candidate stuff

But, I am also reminded that I read a post here that talked about witnesses seeing a dark skin "Muslim" looking guy with McVeigh in Oklahoma.


Do a search here at DU.

That surprised me because I always thought of McVeigh as a terrorist. I wondered why they didn't do a Homdland Security profile check for McVeigh looking people.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 10:59 PM
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23. They sure had him caught "like a duck in a noose"
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 09:43 PM
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18. He was a right-wing anti-American lunatic . n/t
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 10:41 PM
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20. I think it was Waco that did it for him. but what do I know.
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nonkultur Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 10:56 PM
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22. Jayna Davis has alot of info.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 11:02 PM
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24. because he was fucking insane
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