Now Bush wants to test every American for mental illness--including you!

[scottxyz]

http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=830

Now Bush wants to test every American for mental illness -- including you!
And guess who will create the tests?
By Jordanne Graham

Next month, President Bush plans to unveil a broad new mental health plan called the “New Freedom Initiative.” Never mind that it couldn’t have less to do with freedom....

The New Freedom Initiative proposes to screen every American, including you, for mental illness. To this end, the president established a New Freedom Commission on Mental Health, to study the nation’s mental health delivery service and make a report. It’s interesting to note that many on the staff appointed to the Commission have served on the advisory boards of some of the nation’s largest drug companies.

The commission reported that “despite their prevalence, mental disorders often go undiagnosed,” so it recommended comprehensive mental health screening for “consumers of all ages,” including preschool children...

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Looks like another chance for Bush's buddies in the pharma industry to line their pockets.

Not to mention, a great way to lock up or medicate people who don't conform to the government's definition of "sanity".

I would imagine even the freepers would be up in arms about something like this - government meddling in private lives and all.

[opihimoimoi]

1. They will find 75% of us are damaged goods

The confirmation is Bush himself...

[Tellurian]

35. And perhaps use the gene blocker therapy...

tested on monkeys as the alternative treatment..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x743966

[opihimoimoi]

43. Somehow somewhere I suspect these guys want to turn us into

stepford citizens way beyond the present...into "Stepford Slaves". By inserting a chip into our bodies...bad shit can come of it.

[Tellurian]

48. BEWARE...When Bush makes an announcement to HELP...

R-U-N!

[opihimoimoi]

50. I was trying not to say it, not to alarm people, stay put for 21 minutes

[Tellurian]

61. I'm not an alarmist...and I AM ALARMED! nt

[JohnOneillsMemory]

63. LOL. Great comeback. I gotta use that!

"Remarkable, he remarked."

[PurityOfEssence]

2. Not believing in god will, of course, be debilitating psychosis

and institutionalization will be necessary for the poor souls...

[Sparky McGruff]

18. Georgie can see into people's souls...

seems pretty delusional to me!

I won't go into "speaking in tongues" or irrational fears about calico cats, though. John Ashcroft isn't nuts, I tell you.

[PurityOfEssence]

60. Calvin Trillin had a good one about Ashcroft speaking in tongues

He said that he didn't mind it so much, it was what he was saying in English that scared him.

When you think about it, speaking in tongues is a shockingly logical expression of fundamentalism: making a lot of emphatic noise without the slightest idea what one's saying...

[Nikki Stone 1]

3. This is REALLY frightening

"Not to mention, a great way to lock up or medicate people who don't conform to the government's definition of "sanity"."

Think of everything the government has done in the past 4 years to exert a "Brave New World" or "1984" kind of control over the population. Are the Democrats just lying down for this latest intrusion?

[scottxyz]

4. Nobody's going to stand for this

They can't force us to get tested.

If they come for you and want an interview or a sample of your bodily fluids, say "Fine with me - as long as you pay me the fair market value of one million dollars for the interview - my hourly billing rate - plus one million dollars per gram of my bodily tissues."

Fight capitalism with capitalism.

[Kanary]

6. You sure about that? How much would you like to bet?

When this was posted before, I brought up that this has already been passed in Illinois, and going into effect.

The proper links were given.

So, rather than pooh-poohing, I suggest you search here for that thread and the links, or google Illinios.

Kanary

[scottxyz]

9. Actually, I agree with you

I was just trying to be optimistic, and inspiring.

What I actually should have said was "*I* won't stand for this."

But lots of sheeple will probably just meekly go to their diagnosis.

Maybe they'll rationalize by dreaming about all the free, legal happy-drugs they'll get!

[Kanary]

11. Oh, just another late-night DU blow-em-off post, eh? ^_^

Well, I still challenge you to google Illinois and this law....

Or..... search here for the thread "Bush wants to be your shrink"

And, for the record, I don't find false optimism to be particularly inspiring. There is a real reason for alerting people to what is coming down the pike. Otherwise, we're no different from the repunks doing their ostrich impressions.

Kanary

[gatorboy]

5. Scary stuff.

Perhaps they'll Prozac the water supply? Didn't I read that they found large quantities of the stuff in Britain's water?

Then we all will be nice and sedated.....Heya new terror alert! Look at the pretty colors!

[goclark]

7. Start testing BushCo first

They are definitely crazy!
We are sane but if Nov.2 takes too long we will be crazy too.

[amandabeech]

8. Start with BUSH* himself.

Full evaluation for ADHD, paranoia, delusions, depression, addictive personality, you name it. Throw the whole damned Diagnostic and Statistical Manual at him and get him the **ll out of the White House before he blows up half the world!

[TrustingDog]

10. but he's not American, he's reptilian.

[Droopy]

12. I think this is a ploy to line his contributor's pockets

Only big business will benefit from this. Oh, sure they might catch a few people who would otherwise slip through the cracks. But most people who are mentally ill only get help when they want to. It's easy enough to lie about your mental state if you don't want people to know your true feelings. I did it for years before I finally had a melt down. This new commision that Bush wants to start will be a total waste in taxpayer money and will probably result in people going on meds who don't really need to.

[69KV]

13. "New Freedom Initiative"?!

*raises eyebrow*

Sounds like typical Bush.

War is peace
Ignorance is strength
Slavery is freedom

[Pachamama]

22. Bizarre name....and scary because of its nuances....purposely no reference

to "Mental Health" or getting inside your "mind", and what's with the "Freedom" - to be patriotic?

Kinda like the "clean air or healthy forests"....it always is named the "opposite" of what it really is....so, the opposite of Freedom is....Slavery? Control?

Take that a step further and let your imagination go wild on the real intent....very scary....

[JohnOneillsMemory]

64. 'Freedom' is now used to sell all to the (formerly known as) electorate.

Here is a great analysis of abusive language in *'s State of the Union speech in 2003.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/130534_focusecond13.html
(The Power of the Presidency Resides in Language)

One tactic is using puffy rhetoric that doesn't mean much and clouds rational thought.

And the call-it-the-opposite-of-what-it-is ploy works because the repetition of the name (even in criticism) has an absolute value that
wins minds.

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Ha!Almost turned ya into a freeper, hunh?

[Valerie5555]

14. Concerning Bush's "mental screenings," I wonder what he will find vis a

vis New York, maybe BIG TIME "PRE TRAUMATIC," not to mention POST TRAUMATIC stress due to the "incidents" of Sept 11 and all the terror alerts to the effect that IT may happen again.

[drdtroit]

15. Never forget what the Nazis did to the

mentally ill and retarded.

This would give them a pre-compiled list.

Be afraid!

[samplegirl]

16. Hope he does it before electon

Dont think he will score any points with this one.
I told this to my sister-inlaw...........she called me a liar
next day...........I printed it and mailed it to her!

[Kanary]

17. Did you send her the info about Illinois?

[Nikki Stone 1]

19. Kanary, do you have a link for Illinois?

I'd really like to know what the specifics are and where it has already been passed.

Thanks!

[Kanary]

21. I would have to do the same thing that you can do......

google it, or look up the thread that was here yesterday, titled "Bush wants to be your shrink"

If you search for that thread, you will also find another link that was very good.... government stuff.

I suggest you save this stuff, to show those who refuse to take it seriously. It must be scaring the pants off people, because they either make a joke of it, or ignore it.

Let me know what you find!

Kanary

[necso]

20. Uh-Oh!

This could be trouble... Good thing I've got all those guns!

(Just kidding, folks...)

[necso]

26. Oh, and I wouldn't put anything beyond the neos.

Drugged zombies following their lead would suit them just fine, thank you very much! Big money for their pharma friends, the odd suitcase full of money for them and their enemies declared insane... It works all around!

[Fleshdancer]

23. My diagnosis? Take two John's and call me in the morning. n/t

[Kanary]

27. Go ahead, laugh it off........ rather than even bothering to look

at the info about Illinois.

The laugh may be on you.

Kanary

[Fleshdancer]

29. I read all about it already on a DU thread a few days ago

I'm not laughing it off. It's a serious situation...something I think will be fixed if Kerry wins the election.

My comment was funny, but don't mistake humor for apathy. There was truth in my original statement.

[Kanary]

30. Not if he has already instituted something before Jan.

I'm glad to know you had read the other thread.

So many people dismissing this is very upsetting.

Kanary

[Fleshdancer]

31. It is scary

The problem with this situation is that it seems so much more far fetched than it really is. It's hard to wrap your mind around this as being the reality, you know?

You're right though, this isn't something that should be so easily dismissed. Do we have a link to the other thread? I'll do a search and post it.

[Kanary]

33. The other thread was "Bush wants to be your shrink"

Thank you for taking it seriously.

I can tell you, the people in Illinois aren't laughing this off now.

Yes, I agree, it's preposterous.

So was declaring war on Iraq.

Kanary

[Fleshdancer]

34. I just posted the past thread on this thread

I'll post it here too just in case:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2185460

[Kanary]

37. Thanks, Gloria! I followed it up, and found another post

that needed a reply, so it's now kicked, too. :hi:

I hope some Doubting Thomas' avail themselves of those links.

Kanary

[Cronus Protagonist]

24. I don't need no steenking test - I'll voluntarily admit to it

If Bush is the standard of normalcy, I MUST be crazy.... :)

SHOVE IT! - Drop Bush Not Bombs! - Hero Kerry AWOL Bush
http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13

[Sirveri]

25. If they come for me.

I will kill them.

I will then take my place with all others who would resist.

[WinterStorm]

28. If the Bush family can't pass the test then how are they going to test us

OK, I'm nuts and I know it!

I almost had a breakdown after the stolen election.

[Fleshdancer]

32. Everyone, please read this as well:

Here's a past discussion on DU about this subject:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2185460

[Tsiyu]

36. I honestly thought

that Republipukes didn't think we had a right to health care. Wouldn't that include mental health care? How the hell are they going to pull this off? Isn't there a tidy little amendment giving us the right to privacy? Or are they just fricking throwing out the entire Constitution because what the hell? Who needs that?

[Kanary]

38. We have the "right" to health care, when it makes the pharmas rich

Constitution? What constitution?

Doan need no stinkin' constitution.

It only gets in the way of profits, donchaknow....

Kanary

[Tsiyu]

40. That Is The truth

"when it makes the pharmas rich"

So true.

So Sad.

[Kanary]

41. Yup, when you develop the knack of twisting stuff all around,

then you start to make sense of stuff that is otherwise incomprehensible.

That's why all of this sounds so tin-foil-hat, and nobody wants to grasp it. Which is why I try to get people to read about Illinois. It's REAL.

And it SUX.

We're going to have to be ready to come together on this, folks. Individual solutions aren't going to work on this one.

Kanary

[Piperay]

39. Chimp needs to go first

he is one "sick puppy" and tests will prove he is "unfit to command".:freak: :crazy:

[Dem2theMax]

42. I kicked the other thread,

and I'll kick this one too.

* and company are NOT GOING TO GET AWAY WITH THIS.
THIS is personal to me. :mad:



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[LeftHander]

45. THX 1138

Failure to take medication results in awareness....

THis is so WRONG.

I will never allow anyone to test my child for any health related issue without my consent. PERIOD.

[volosong]

46. Bush Should Be the First One Tested

Actually , we don't have to "test" him.

As any doctor knows, Bush suffers from a "Cognitive Disorder."

In his case, probably genetic, but past cocaine use or the like could have aggravated the underlying pathology.

He is mentally unfit to hold high office.

Let's kick some ass...Dr. D

[ScreamingMeemie]

49. Just like he should have been the first one to take the school aptitude

tests put out by his waste of a "No Child Left Behind" farce. :hi:

[Nimrod]

47. I wonder...

...how many democrats will be diagnosed as mentally unstable.

Then I wonder if the mentally unstable will be barred from voting.

::puts tinfoil hat back on::

[ScreamingMeemie]

51. Hehehehehehehe...I've got the industrial sized roll if you need more.

:hi:

[Nimrod]

68. Thanks

At this rate, I should really start buying in bulk.

[skygazer]

52. Not a laughing matter

Recently read a book called "The State Boys Rebellion". Back in the 1920's, eugenics was a big thing in the US, though many people don't realize it. (As a matter of fact, the Nazis got a lot of their info initially from American eugenics societies) Spurred by this movement, the government got into the business of screening children by IQ and convincing parents to send their "defective" youngsters to state run homes. Many of these kids were actaully of normal intelligence but their scores were low for a variety of reasons (lack of formal schooling, inadequate diet or improper testing procedures, for example).

The homes kept many of these kids, particularly those who were wards of the state, for virtually their entire lives, treating them abysmally, providing them with almost no education and requiring them to work at menial tasks that either helped run the facility or provided some income to the home (never to the kid).

It's a grim read and a red flag, if you ask me. This type of program will ALWAYS lead to abuses.

[Kanary]

57. You're so right, and thanks for the history reminder.

I think people are laughing because this is scary, and we don't know what to do. But, I want people to realize that everything has gotten so out of hand that all this could come to pass while we're making jokes.

The reason, as I said before, that this is so serious is that NO WAY can there be individual solutions to this. People are now talking about moving out of Illinois to get away from the law there, but if * gets away with this (and what's to stop him?), there won't be anywhere to run to.

No, this is one thing that is going to require that we do what is hardest for Murkins to do..... come together to fight this.

Kanary

[hunter]

58. Google Prescott Bush eugenics

Same shit, different generation...

[The Backlash Cometh]

53. It's the Bush final solution.

A great way to get rid of the poor, and those who dissent.

[amazona]

54. eff him...let him go first if he's so worried about sanity

We are truly living in Stalin's Russia now, aren't we? Dissident thought = mental illness = strait-jacketed by dangerous mind-altering drugs. The sad thing is, they are plotting to do this to other human beings for a profit. Who said the first time around history is tragedy, the second time around it's farce?

[ElementaryPenguin]

55. All liberals soon to be deemed mentally ill!

Herrs Limbaugh and Hannity declare it everyday already!

[opihimoimoi]

56. He made us a basket case and now he wants to PROVE IT?

And we pay taxes to find out we are nuts?

Bush is over the top, way over, its his Battle of the Bulge

[The Backlash Cometh]

59. LOL!

I suppose if we just spout off, Go Fuck yourself!" instead of getting politically active, that would be alright.

[opihimoimoi]

67. As they say in England....Fuck Off and sometimes they use, PISS OFF

If America rises on its feet and say these things, perhaps they would back OFF

Its another misguided Bush Idea that will prolly fail big time...

These guys are reduced to GUessing

[CJCRANE]

62. Anyone seen the film "Equilibrium"?! eom

.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

65. 'Welcome to the Monkey House' by Kurt Vonnegut. Pills to kill libido.

This is a book about a society kept numb from the waist down to prevent sexual pleasure as a social control device.

The rebels don't take the pills.

What an appropriate title with Chimpy McWarHardOn in the White House.

[FlaGranny]

66. Okay, Bush,

you're first.

[mtnester]

69. ANOTHER attempted intrusion by the government into our lives

Jeesh, I can see how loading the family property into the wagon and heading out to about 100 heavily fenced acres in the middle of nowhere, arming yourselves to the teeth and surviving off your land can become an attractive idea.

[Kanary]

70. Kicking........ jes' becuz I can........

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[Kanary]

71. kicking for those new to the issue

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[Tsiyu]

72. Kick

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[Zhade]

73. Physician, DIAGNOSE THYSELF!

NT!