Buchanan Rips PNAC neoCONs a New One on WorldNetDaily

[stickdog]

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34255

The message in the Baghdad bombing?
Opinion by Pat Buchanan
Posted: August 25, 2003

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President Bush should go back and discover who misled him into believing the Iraqis would welcome us as liberators and that democracy would flourish in the Islamic world. If the creation of a democratic Iraq seemed a utopian goal before last week, today it is hard to see even a glimmer of light at the end of this tunnel.

Sen. John McCain is urging President Bush to add more troops to the 146,000 in Iraq. But it is a law of guerrilla war that the defending power needs 10 soldiers for every guerrilla. If 5,000 warriors of Islam make their way into Iraq, are we ready to add 50,000 more troops? Where do we get them? What do we do if the Islamic jihadists and the Iraqi guerrillas recruit another 10,000? A second rule of Fourth Generation warfare, as strategist Bill Lind has named it, is that the guerrillas win if they do not lose.

As we now know, Saddam was not Osama's ally, and Iraq had no role in 9-11 or the anthrax attack and had no nuclear weapons program, no arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and no plans or any intent to attack the United States. It was an utterly unnecessary war. But because President Bush launched this war, we now have 146,000 soldiers tied down in Iraq under daily attack and we face a $300 billion to $600 billion reconstruction effort – while we must combat Iraqi guerrillas who want to drive us out and Islamic terrorists who want to smash our effort to build a new nation for the Iraqi people.

The neoconservatives who plotted this war before they ever met George Bush, and who prodded and pushed him into it, are now pushing for confrontation with Syria, Iran and Saudi Arabia. Their agenda is not now and has never been America's agenda. President Bush would be well advised to clean house of these neocons and go talk to the Old Man in Kennebunkport about what we should do now. His father may not have understood politics, but he understood the world better than the crazed ideologues who captured his son.

[Booberdawg]

1. I love Pat Buchanan!!

And it scares me sometimes ....

Say what you will about him, he says what he really believes and is not influenced by the hubris and arrogance that surrounds him.

And I think he is Deep Throat.:wow:

[JNelson6563]

7. I think it was Haig

I read a book, which title escapes me now. I lent it to my reich-wing sis-in-law andmay never see it again but I wish I had it. It was brilliant. They put forth the theory on Haig and it was well founded.

Julie

[msanger]

2. Run Pat, Run

I'd donate 25 bucks if he ran against bush. would you?

[Kamika]

3. Say what you want about the creep

He seems to actually know stuff like why palestinians suicide bomb israel or why the iraquis dont like us.

Most freepers just think palestinians bomb the heck out of israel because they are pure evil or that the iraquis love us ecept some few islamists

[Malva Zebrina]

4. tactfully allowing the idiot son

to save face--See--it is not his fault--he was "pushed" into all his evil ways by evil insiders. He is really trusting and naive--he really wanted to " do the right thing"

I don't believe it for a second.

Buchanan probably knows it is too late--too many of those pushy evil influences in there wreaking havoc in every department.

[yolatengo]

5. that jerkoff

tore apart the Reform Party to better help the GOP gain power in 2000.

He ain't no sage; he's just an anti-semite and Fortress America-type.
Anything that helps Israel or doesn't harken us back to about 1933
is anathema to him.

Even if PNAC got everything they wanted (total peace in the ME, democracies
from China to Morocco, stability and security for Israel), Pat would still
be mad because that helps Israel. That, and he takes as absolutist Gospel
Washington's Farewell Address line about 'foreign entanglements'.

Unfortunately for Pat, we neither have the $$$ for reconstructing Iraq
nor building a 40 ft high, electrified titanium wall around the USA.
That and it's no longer 1793 and the world is a much smaller and
closer place...

Bigby.

[leesa]

6. Pretending Bush is not involved in this. How Pathetic can you get?

He's driving the ship baby, and his evil father is very much part of the great bomb and cash-out program against the world. Go to his father for advice?????? Where the hell does he think this nightmare is originating from??? Man, Buchanon is naive!

[SpiralHawk]

8. Go talk to the Old Man? WTF?

Shrubbie* already knows what he is going to say "No new taxes. Oh yeah, and recreate prudently."



* Rejected and clearly defeated by a majority of patriotic and discerning American voters in the 2000 election; appointed to office by the so-called supreme court.

[stickdog]

9. And we at Carlyle sends our thanks for the billions in no-bid cost-plus

contracts.

[Squeech]

10. Buchanan's an isolationist

As such, he doesn't buy the basic premise of neocon foreign policy-- i.e. he doesn't think it's possible to change other countries' attitudes by force of arms.

Nor does he thinks it's worth using military force to save people's lives or anything. He had just as little use for Gulf War I as for the new improved version, and even less for Kosovo.

It's nice that he's around attacking the BFEE, but that doesn't mean he's suddenly one of the good guys. Wait and see what he says about Liberia.

[K-W]

11. The small credit Buchanan deserves

is that unlike many many many people and factions on the right, he hasnt cashed in his ideals, albiet pretty aweful ideals, for the Bush bandwagon. If more conservatives were like him Bush could never have done what he did and would certainly not gotten away with it. Then again, Pat Buchanan certainly destinguishes himself as an outside and puts himself in a good position if Bush falls and hes able to stand aside of the fray. So lets not line up to give him a medal.

[Old and In the Way]

13. Welcome onboard K-W.....I agree.

Really, this rant by Pat could have been made by any number of DUer's with regards to the folly of invading Iraq.

Nothing I'd rather see than Pat running against Bush. I think his candidacy would be far more credible in this election cycle and would give moderate Republicans an out to vote for a conservative who isn't a Democrat. I think he'd split Bush's base quite nicely...I'd certainly encourage, maybe even donate, to his campaign.

[Blue_Chill]

12. I respect Pat Buchanan

I don't agree with him 99% of the time, but I respect him. It has nothing to do with this latest statement but it is reinforced by it. The man sticks to his guns and never caves to follow the party line. We could use a few people that are as hard headed on our side of the fence.