I normally don't advocate violence against Hummers, but...

[FlashHarry]

(I snapped this on my way home from work today)

If you can't read it, the license plate reads 2 TUFF.

On edit: Isn't technology great? I love the fact that you can take a photo and have it viewed by hundreds of people in a couple of minutes.

[sujan]

1. freedom of speech

you dont go trash the hummer just for that....

[FlashHarry]

4. I was being somewhat facetious.

I think anyone should be allowed to say just about anything. (To be fair, I followed home a Mercedes SUV the other day with a vanity plate that read LIBERAL.)

This reminds me of a sorority girl's car I saw when I was in college--it was a bright-red BMW convertible with vanity plates that read THNX DAD.

[FlashHarry]

73. REPOST OF PICTURE

[Blue_Chill]

79. I agree with Sujan

Never thought I would say that. :D

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. Maybe If Someome Gave You A Hummer You'd Feel Differently

nt

[FlashHarry]

6. Actually, my girlfriend should be giving me one this weekend.

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. LeBron James' Mother Brought Him A Hummer

so the sports radio guys were having all kinds of fun with that.

like

"LeBron James get a Hummer from his mom.

[FlashHarry]

13. Don't you be dissin' LeBron's Momma!

LOL!

[ArkDem]

86. Perhaps they didn't think his mother was the one who gave it

to him.

[arcane1]

3. oh I'm sure he's REAL tuff! NOT!

Might as well have a sticker on the back that says he has a large penis

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. The guy prolly has a micropenis

and the Hummer is his substitute phallic symbol

[sujan]

26. you dont even know the owner

and yet you have his(or her) penile measurements ready... lol

[Fescue4u]

64. Oh god..

For a second, just a split second, I thought that illustration on your sig was in regards to penis size

phew..glad it wasnt :)

[sujan]

71. hey its open to that interpretation too

:D

[Fescue4u]

65. IM not a hummer fan

As I said in other message, its way to big on the outside, way to small on the inside....

But if I had Bushco kind of money, Id love to have one to play with offroad (on my own "ranch" of course). :)

But I think they are nuts for an everyday driving vehicle.

[ronnykmarshall]

8. I'm sure he doesn't!

Can you say "pencil dick"?

[wuushew]

5. The stereo-types are true!

This is why we invade the Middle East?

[gratuitous]

9. Take solace

It probably costs this clown upward of $80 to gas up the main tank and the reserve, and he goes a grand total of 250 miles on that assuming mostly city driving.

Look for the vehicle to be sold at a bargain basement price and soon.

[FlashHarry]

12. They're lowest rated for owner satisfaction by J.D. Power

Number-one complaint? Bad gas mileage! DUH!!!

[gratuitous]

14. Makes you wonder sometimes, doesn't it?

How a fool and that much money ever got together in the first place.

[FlashHarry]

15. Inherited from Daddy?

**attempts Veruca Salt voice** "oh, but Daddy, I must have a Hummer! I want it now!"

[Bandit]

83. And he probably gets that from Bush*'s tax cuts , which you help pay for

People that can afford such a piece of crap like that aren't worried about $80. for fuel. You will pay for it in the long run anyway and that sends them into spasms of laughter. The more fuel costs rise the more money Bush* gets for his campaign and in return the more he rewards his rich constituents. It's definitely a trickle up effect. Only it isn't really trickling it's pouring.

[markbark]

11. Heh...

I've got a "guerilla" strategy for those guys.
I had a bunch of bumper stickers printed up that read

          HUMMER H2 
            8 MPG
I HELP SUPPORT ARAB TERRORISM

I always wonder how long it takes 'em to scrape them off though :evilgrin:

--MAB

[Clete]

16. I hope you live out in the country where something like

that could be useful, but to drive one in a congested urban area with the attendant parking problems and pollution is really stupid as well as inconsiderate.

[FlashHarry]

18. This is downtown Omaha.

300,000+ people. Hardly 'the country.' So, no, it's not appropriate. There are tons of Hummers around here. Omaha is a surprisingly affluent town, mainly because, along with Hartford, CT, it's the insurance capital of the US.

[Clete]

24. Insurance? You said the magic word.

I would like to outlaw most insurance as an industry. They, more than any other capitalistic industry, have helped create the mess in health care in our country today. It's the only industry that takes money in exchange for nothing. Insurance should be legislated so that it only is allowed to insure catastrophes and disasters, which is what it was orginally intended for.

Anything else I believe should be handled by an agency government, like health care, malpractice and worker's compensation. I know I haven't mentioned everything, but it's just a post in general about how I feel about insurance.

I also worked in the industry for about a year. These were the hardest drinkers I ever met and I had to change jobs just to keep from turning into an alcoholic.

[RebelOne]

17. I do not condone the current violence against the Hummer

dealerships by the ELF. Even though I am an amimal rights advocate, I also do not condone the destruction that the ALF does in the name of animal rights. But I think the Hummers are a pretty cool vehicle, though I would never be able to afford one nor afford the gas to drive it.

[FlashHarry]

20. I'm opposed to violent protest of any kind.

Vandalism included. Personally, I think the H1 Hummer is pretty cool--provided you really need one, but the H2 is just a GM pickup reconfigured for the 'rough-n-ready' crowd.

[AwareOne]

22. The Hummer gets 8 to 10 miles per gallon

Q. who was the first recipient of the civilian Hummer?
A. Arnold Schwarzennegger back in 1992 as a publicity stunt for the Hummer debut.
This according to the authors of Waeapons of Mass Deception, that I am reading now.

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

75. Arnold also drives a civilian or industrial version of a German tank

called a Unimog, according to a book I read called "High and Mighty: SUVs: The World's Most Dangerous Vehicles and How They Got That Way." Really interesting book by a auto industry reporter for the NY Times. Says cars and minivans are much safer than SUVs and trucks for the drivers and passengers as well as other people on the road. Talks all about the psychology of the SUV drivers.

I read a quote by Craig Kilborn about Hummers that was really funny. Something like, "I was thinking of buying a Hummer, but I thought it would be cheaper to tattoo 'I need attention' on my forehead."

I am reading "Weapons of Mass Deception" now too. Very interesting book.

[Kellanved]

87. an UNIMOG isn't a tank (OK there is a military version)

It's a vehicle used woldwide to reach place a normal SUV can't.
They're build for eternity, so there are some really old mogs around (they started building them directly after the war).

It's very popular among firefighters, forest guards, shepards, construction crews, ...
http://www.mercedes-benz.com/e/ecars/unimog/default.htm

A late model UNIMOG:



and an older one (60s):

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

82. I don't condone vandalism against SUVs

In fact, vandalism against SUVs is about number 943,432,343 on my list of problems in the world. After we deal with the first 943,432,342 problems, I'll start to worry about jerks getting their SUVs keyed.

[xchrom]

19. i'm in the bay area

and there is a hummer i see on 80 going towards richmond with a bumper sticker that says ''send all liberals to afghanistan''.

[FlashHarry]

21. GRRR.

That's pretty ballsy for SF. Here in Bush country, it's de rigeur.

[arcane1]

25. yikes! What an idiot!

I haven't seen him yet, though I do see a few hummers, etc, here in the bay area. Funny how these dumbasses get the idea that the Taliban is liberal :eyes:

[G_j]

23. I guess "Testosterone" won't fit on a licence plate

[Flubadubya]

27. Hummer Ads on TV... what a hoot?

Have you noticed the new Hummer ad on TV, namely the one about the kid's soap box derby? The kid that built the cart that looks like a Hummer wins by "going off road". He goes off road alright, but he also wins by cheating.

I think it is a MOST appropriate ad for this product. :evilgrin:

[stopbush]

54. I Hate that f*cking ad

and switch channels when it appears.

[LogicTrueFalse]

28. I have a hummer

Are you advocating violence against me or my vehicle?

[wuushew]

30. how do you justify it?

buy a compact car and give the rest of the money to a democratic presidential campaign

[LogicTrueFalse]

33. Not gonna happen

Until you sell everything you don't need and do the same. I justify it because I can afford it and it's legal. Promote outlawing it and then we'll talk.

[Unforgiven]

50. Thanks!

I own an SUV as well, but not a hummer (a Cayenne), my wife and I both love it and it works for hauling people and supplies to Union meetings. So for us IT IS practical. And as you stated if you can afford it and it's legal............................Why should it be a problem for any one else? They aren't paying my bills!

[Sterling]

62. And of course that is all that matters.

Is you and your money. As long as YOU can afford it who cares what effect it has on everyone else.

[Blue_Chill]

80. What effect does a hummer have on you.

Please tell me exactly what effect it has had on you as a individual.

[gristy]

78. Are you a sheep?

You will determine your course of action based on what others do? For fun, try basing your actions on logic, reason, and morality! Unfortunately, I can't say this would make you sleep any better, since I am guessing you sleep just fine now!

[G_j]

32. does it make you feel good?

I hope the gas prices keep rising just for your sake.

:mad:
on edit, well not so much your sake, but for the sake of the planet, maybe you'll leave it in the garage more often.

[LogicTrueFalse]

37. My uncle pays for the gas

I don't understand the very angry face image you posted. I need lots
of room to drive with my disability and the hummer works well. Wht the hate?

[G_j]

40. ok, you didn't explain that

please accept my apologies. Most Hummer owners are into them only for the image.

I don't hate them either, just think they are wasting precious resourses.

[Sterling]

44. You have other options.

Lots of disabled people without Hummers, jeez.

[Junkdrawer]

35. How did you buy a Hummer on SSI ????

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=234509#234580

[LogicTrueFalse]

36. My rich uncle bought it for me

He ave me a credit card for the gas too. My disability requires
more room to drive than normal. I'm sorry if that bothers you.

[GCP]

39. Gee, he must be a really, REALLY rich uncle!

LOL

[Sterling]

46. Even my redneck folks are starting to get the picture.

They think people who drive Hummers are assholes. I tend to agree. Don't expect to be popular as time goes by. Less and less people appreciate people who think like you.

Now if I could get the rednecks to see that their SUVs are just as bad as your god damned Hummer.

[LogicTrueFalse]

52. I don't need to be popular

And your insensitive comments don't phase me in the least. I heard much
worse while growing up from people like you making fun of my disability.

Don't worry, I'm the one who has to die when it's my time so let me
live my life the way I want to.

[Sterling]

57. I did not make fun of your disability.

I can't even say for sure that one word you say is true. So far not much you have posted makes any sense.

I do however take offense to you using a disability as an excuse to be a selfish person and a bad citizen.

[haymaker]

69. How many times a week

do you wank your pud in while looking at your Hummer?

You got some serious masculinity issues. Have you thought about therapy?

Would you mind telling us how big your penis is?

[neomonkey]

47. Well assuming your are who you say you are

I understand needing extra room in your vehicle, but please give me a break, there are a shitload of midsized and smaller SUV's, as well as vans, on the market that would suit your needs just fine.

A Hummer is nothing but pure overkill. It transcends logic and practicality for most people driving in this country.

[GCP]

38. Nice catch there, junkdrawer

We have a liar in our midst it would seem.

[Junkdrawer]

41. Nah, he has a rich uncle, doncha know..

Buys him gas too. :eyes:

[MrMonk]

43. And he needs lots of room because of his priapism.

[Fescue4u]

66. Thats what doesnt make sense.

A distant family member of mine has a hummer and I sat in it once.

I tell ya, an escort has more interior space than a hummer.

The engine/transmission occupised proably 1/3 of the interior space.

And it only seats 4. Hell my little ranger pickup seats 5.

[MiltonLeBerle]

81. Why do you assume that it's SSI, and not SSDI?

I'm on permanent disability as well, but my payments are based on the money I paid into the system in the 22 years I was able to work before becoming disabled at age 38.

[Sterling]

42. No but

I am not saying I would feel bad for you if a vet returning from Iraq goes crazy on your ass for costing him a few buddies.
You are a selfish person and need some ethics. Your parents probably never tought you right from wrong.

What a shame.

You could be doing far better things with your wealth, even for yourself.

[DrWeird]

45. Well, if we can kill Uday and Qusay...

I won't get upset if someone smacks around Hummer owners a little.

[hippiegranny]

29. saw on tv the other night

that the local hummer dealers can't get rid of the current stock to make way for the new shipments. hahahahahahaha. maybe it's because of the tucson to phoenix pipeline break and the gas lines. ya think?

[Clark Can WIN]

31. Hey FlashHarry

Can you believe there's like three of those f'n things here in Kearney???? Tell me someone who REALLY needs one? Whats so cool about a vanity ride that rapes the environment?

[Sterling]

48. It seems to be the vehical of choice among disabled people

On SSI with rich uncles don't you know? Hopefully for Hummer that is a growing demo but I doubt it.

I think we will see them in museums as an example of how out of touch with reality people were at the end of the fossil fuel age. They might even include some preppy asshole in khakis with the exhibit?

[FlashHarry]

74. In Kearney?

Well, if the size of your vehicle is inversely proportional to the size of your, ahem, vehicle, then it would be more appropriate to drive a Mini, or a Fiat 500.

[MrMonk]

34. Are you sure that's a "Hummer"?

It looks like a pick-up with a fancy shell.

[FlashHarry]

84. That's EXACTLY what it is!

Why do you think GM loves them so much? They can take a $12,000 pickup, add $10,000 worth of parts and bodywork and sell it for $70,000! Genius!

(BTW, I realize that is a tad simplistic and doesn't take into account GM's R&D, marketing, etc. But, the reason car companies love SUVs is the fact that the margins are much higher than they are with regular cars.)

[DoNotRefill]

49. What a joke...

The H2s are regular old SUVs (built on a Tahoe chassis, IIRC). See that big-assed Universal Joint in the pic? Ground clearance? I think not.

What a waste. What's really pathetic is that it's popular with people who want the image, but can't scare up the bucks for the "real thing".

[Sterling]

58. That "image" is tarnishing rapidly.

Most people are starting to automatically cry out "what an asshole" whenever they see one of those hunks of crap.

[Fescue4u]

51. hundres of people in a few minutes..

Actually..

Isnt that the point of the license tag? I've never understood the mentality of people who hide license tags in photos.

I mean, they are MEANT to be public.

[Fescue4u]

53. All this angst about SUVs

I dunno something about everyone hating them makes me want one...

Guess its just the contraian in me.

[wuushew]

55. I hope that is just true for SUV's......

we all hate bush

[Sterling]

59. So you are becoming a Bush fan?

Glad I don't have your lack of common sense.

[Fescue4u]

63. Heh..

No..

But if law was passed that it made it illegal to be a Republican, I might sign up just to fight it (although my beliefs wouldnt change)

Its about Freedom. Freedom to vote for who you want. Freedom to spend your money as you see fit (and if thats on an suv, so be it).

As for a Hummer, I think they are a waste of money. Way to big on the outside, way to small on the inside, way to big of a price tag, way to small of a MPG number.

[Junkdrawer]

56. In all seriousness...

I think you'll find that the same people who buy Hummers also buy guns for their personal defense. They are people who view the world as a predominately hostile place and who have given in to fear. The problem is that, in both cases, they make the world just that more dangerous for the rest of us.

[Sterling]

60. Yes and....

"they make the world just that more
dangerous for the rest of us."

They seem to think that that is OUR problem. A very self involved way of going through life.

[Junkdrawer]

61. The only thing we have to fear....

[GoneOffShore]

67. BCSD

IMHO most of the people (note I said most, not all, as I don't want to get into a flame war here) who own these vehicles generally suffer from what Julie Walters called in 'Personal Services', BCSD. This is short for Big Car Small Dick.
The same acronym with a slight change in letters could also be applied to those who feel the need for large caliber weapons.

[DoNotRefill]

70. I have guns and drive a subcompact.

and my guns don't make the world a more dangerous place for anybody except somebody looking to harm me.

[Junkdrawer]

76. That's what they all say. n/t

[MadHound]

85. No, they don't make the world a more dangerous place, until. . .

They get stolen out of your house and wind up in my neighborhood, in the hands of drug dealers, shooting up my house and car. Luckily suchlike stolen guns haven't shot my family or neighbors, though that is probably just a matter of time.

I don't know where you live, nor what kind of guns you have, but if you have anything in the auto or semi auto variety, please get rid of it, because I and many more like me don't want to see it wind up in the hands of a drug dealer, in a borderline neighborhood, shooting up property and people. If you simply have long guns for hunting, that's fine. If you keep a gun for self defense, realize that the best gun to have for that(according to all of the experts including the NRA) is a twelve gauge shotgun, either double barreled or pump. Get rid of your handguns also, please. We don't need them here in the 'hood either(and they are the most common guns stolen).

Better yet for self defense, get yourself a big dog. Just as effective, and can't be turned against you(a common occurance with guns).

[DoNotRefill]

89. That'll be hard for them to do...

considering that I keep them in a real safe.

Dogs are NOT just as effective as guns. When was the last time a criminal poisoned a gun? When was the last time I had to take my gun for a walk? When was the last time an unattended gun ate the face off of a toddler? And I carry a handgun daily, it fits on my waistband a hell of a lot better than a shotgun.

Tell you what. If you really want me to get rid of my guns, I will. I'll sell them to people that live in your neighborhood. Which would you rather have? Me with guns, or me being "waffenfrei", and those guns being owned by your neighbors? If guns are such a threat to you, you'd be a hell of a lot safer with me having my guns, instead of somebody else.

I own all types of guns, ranging from antique civil-war (and earlier) black powder single shots to modern machineguns like the Mac-10 and MP-5. Once they came into my possession, they haven't hurt anybody. They're stored safely, and are practically impossible for a burglar to steal even if I'm not home.

If you want to stop violence, work towards addressing the root causes of that violence. Don't try and ineffectively treat the symptom by harassing me about my guns.

[ComerPerro]

68. What you should have done

Was pulled up next to the guy, and congratulated him. Because he obviously has a large penis. After all, he drives a Hummer. So he must have a huge penis.

[FlashHarry]

72. REPOST OF PICTURE

Due to Freeservers not allowing remote linking (which is strange, as it was working earlier)

[FlashHarry]

77. Weird. It's working now.

Anyhow, I thought I'd give this a little :kick:

[mikeytherat]

88. Dumbest Bumpersticker Ever Seen on an H2 ("fake" Hummer)

"America -- Built on brass and balls, not bullshit and ignorance."

I had a great, brief conversation with the H2 owner in the hardware store parking lot. I asked him if he knew that "brass" and "balls" were the same thing, and that the preferred version is "brass balls." He gave me the blank stare. I stated that I simply wanted to understand his bumper sticker -- as "brass" and "balls" have the same meaning in this context, was America built on "brass and brass" or "balls and balls"?

I left him with, "Ya know, 'America -- Built on brass balls, not bullshit' is a better, less verbose way to get your message across." Again, I got the blank stare (but I could tell I left him "thinking" about his bumper sticker).

mikey_the_rat