Whatever happened to:

[mitchtv]

1) Tommy Chong?
2) Jose Padilla?
3) Tariq Aziz? are you allowed to torture seniors?

[jiacinto]

1. It never amazes

how some people here sympathize with terrorists who hate this country.

[HFishbine]

2. Tommy Chong

is a terrorist?

[atreides1]

4. No

I think he's talkig about Tariq Aziz.

[mitchtv]

8. Aziz wore a uniform

I believe he has rights under the Geneva accords. Jacinto, I do not excuse the Bush Admin from following them. I ahve the right to ask , without being accused of being unpatriotic which is what i was vrtually accused of.Jacinto honey, your'e in the wrong party for that.

[jiacinto]

10. Wait a second

I didn't question your patriotism. I never did. That was not my intention.

But it really gets me angry when I see people talking about the rights of people at Camp X-ray.

I am more concerned about the victims of 9/11 than the people who tried to harm them.

[edward]

12. We should only torture people who really deserve it?

[oasis]

13. WWDD?

What would Dean do?

[JohnKleeb]

15. sounds like what would Brian Boitano do

a la the south park movie
heh :)
On what Dean would do
I dunno

[graham67]

16. WWDD?

Now that song is stuck in my head!

I bet he'd kick an ass or two
That's what Howard Dean would do :-)

[oasis]

21. "he would kick ass"?? The thread is about torture.

[mitchtv]

14. then you confused curiosity w/ concern

I am unwilling to give this admin any leeway or is it LIE-way. Rule of law, and all that, you know ,Am citizens innocent until proven guilty, and all that. geatest legal system in the world etc.? BTW, what did they have to do with 911?

[jiacinto]

17. That's not point

It's like some people are more worried about criminals than the people they harm. It's as if someone gets attacked on the street and some people are more concerned about helping the one who committed the crime than the victim?

[mitchtv]

20. I think you're in the wrong thread

I see none of that here. BTW, torture is never ok.

[Forkboy]

34. I really wish you would just finish the transformation

[Ready4Change]

35. You miss the point of our justice system and constitution

I'm concerned about people who have been accused, and are currently incarcerated, without their guilt being proven or even questioned.

If we punish innocent people, then we insult the victims of 9/11, imho.

[janekat]

39. we're worried about both....

We must be sure that our country and our leaders are humane because they are acting in our behalf. These prisoners are in a very powerless postion now - at our mercy and we must see to it that they are are treated right. If no-one were to look after the powerless - where would this world be?

Are we to say that our nation can do whatever it wishes???

[oneighty]

18. How is it

You know the captives at Camp X-ray tried to harm

the victims of 9-11?

180

[DrWeird]

24. Well, the are muslim.

and to a lot of people it's islam that caused 9-11. A lot of racist morans that is.

[Brian Sweat]

19. Can't fool them circle flies.

[FredScuttle]

27. Of course you questioned mitch's patriotism...

what other inference are we to draw from "sympathize with terrorists who hate our country"? That's straight out of the John Ashcroft handbook, for Christ's sake!

[jiacinto]

30. No I didn't

I didn't question mitch's patriotism. Nowhere did I say that.

[FredScuttle]

37. You said:

It never (ceases to) amaze how some people here sympathize with terrorists who hate this country - parentheses are my cleanup of your sentence

To me, that's equals you saying mitch sympathizes with terrorists who hate our country, and thus, you're accusing mitch of giving aid and comfort (sympathy) to enemies of the U.S, or in effect, treason.

How do you interpret it? Or would you like to backpedal a little further?

[indigo32]

28. What do you know about the people at camp X-Ray really?

you don't. And why does caring about their rights (which may also extend into MY OWN rights) exclude me from caring about those that died on 9/11 and their families.

[Cocoa]

32. You're linking Padilla to Sept. 11?

Not even Ashcroft is doing that.

[Forkboy]

33. Are you assuming all at Gitmo are guilty Carlos?

If you believe that any of them are innocent you should damn well be concerned with their rights.

If you believe they are all guilty than your reckless disregard for human rights makes more sense. :eyes:

[hang a left]

40. woah now

you did say something about "hating america." and I would like to know what happened to those people. they are humans, and jose padilla is a us citizen, and there is some very crazy shit going on in his case. don't ya think. human beings do have rights, all of them.

[edward]

5. He's referring to the fact that Chong put bongs for sale.

Aiding the terrorists with drugs or something.

[mitchtv]

6. I've got your terrorists....

.

[FredScuttle]

26. Yes

He and his cohort, Cheech al-Marin, were the main pharmaceutical suppliers for Al Queda in the 70's. Before they broke up over royalties, that is.

[5thGenDemocrat]

38. They weren't supplying pharmaceuticals

They were consuming pharmaceuticals.
John
I think. Truthfully, I don't remember that much of the '70s (or the first three years of the '80s).

[mitchtv]

3. sympathize? terrorists?

Tommy Chong? Jose Padilla where is he and what do you know other than what Ashcroft says? you trst him that Much? or our judicial system that little? Aziz is simple where is he and what is being done to him in our name? I ain't spportn no body 'cept tommy Chong, Jees, just asking as these peoples' names are in the headlines then yanked. you also forgot to use "fringe group" in that post. If you don't know what's happened to them just say so. I for one am a fringe curious person.

[Melinda]

7. Yeah, cause they hate us for our freedoms.

Thanks for the reminder, georgie. :eyes:

[DisgustipatedinCA]

25. Never amazes or never CEASES to amaze, Carlos?

It never ceases to amaze me that there are fuckheads, even Democratic fuckheads, who do everything in their power to enable George W. Bush, who is trying to destroy my country because he hates it.

I resent what George W Bush is doing to the country and the constitution that I love. And by extension, I have no use for his enablers who want to help speed along the restrictions of the rights we used to enjoy in this country.

[Bandit]

31. You are judge, jury, and executioner.

Tell me their crime if you please. How were they found guilty and exactly what were they charged with? You are quite eager to label them terrorists but I would like to know on what you base your indictment. It amazes me how some people here don't give a damn about Americans and their constitutional rights so must hate this country.

[jiacinto]

41. Victims of terrorism are my first concern

The terrorists are second.

But it's like someone getting mugged on the street. There is a victim hurt and in pain. Instead of trying to assist the victim people here run to the attacker and ask how they can help him. That's how I see it.

[skypilot]

9. Whatever happened to...

...that punk that was going around putting bombs in mailboxes around the country hoping that when the bombings were pinpointed on a map, they would form a smiley face? Remember him? The last time I saw anything about him was on the day he was captured and there was a picture of him being led away in handcuffs by some law enforcement official who was actually SMILING at this asshole. The asshole was smiling back too as if they'd just shared a good joke. Any news on that guy?

[mitchtv]

11. add that man to the list

apprehended..... then??????

[ProudGerman]

22. apprehended....then?????

Then is something you do not need to know. Now look downard and forward, and keep in step citizen! The enonomy is deflated because people like you waste time asking questions. Remember, thinking is bad, productivity is good! You can always work harder!

Jose Padilla is a name I will not forget, and I will not let those close to me forget it either. He is my answer for all idiots who say "that can't happen in America". I bring up his name and state, American citizen, snatched up without charges, held for over a year without charges, denied access to his lawyer, his family was eventually told of his whereabouts. Can't happen in America my ass.

[mitchtv]

36. thank you Proud German

all these posts, yet no new info.

[tom_paine]

23. Tommy Chong is one of the early victims of Heinrich A$$cru$t

http://www.msnbc.com/local/WTAE/A1615819.asp?cp1=1

"First they came for the Potheads, but I wasn't a pothead so I didn't speak out."

[zeemike]

29. Dam

I missed my chance to by a Chong bong. That could be a collectors item some day.