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mumon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 06:58 PM
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Prediction: The Repugnant Convention does a Buchanan Jackboot
Edited on Thu Aug-28-03 07:00 PM by Kanzeon
Ecce Homo:

http://www.sbcbaptistpress.org/bpnews.asp?ID=16580

MONTGOMERY, Ala. (BP)--Saying that people of faith are involved in a "great moral struggle," Focus on the Family founder James Dobson told a rally Aug. 28 that the focus of the Ten Commandments controversy should be on the federal judiciary, and not on the monument itself.

Pointing to rulings legalizing abortion
a woman's right to choose, taking the Pledge of Allegianceloyalty oaths instituted on the basis of anti-communist hysteria out of schools and threatening the definition of marriage to have a mass of fundie married folks decide they're really gay, gay, gay, Dobson told the crowd -- estimated at more than 1,000 -- that national media reports have focused on the wrong issue.


If America continues to backslide, it "could very easily be like Canada is today, where you can't even preach (about homosexuality from) the first chapter of Romans," Dobson said. "I couldn't even say the things I'm saying today on my radio stations in Canada. I will not be able to air this. ... (What's occurring in Canada is) coming here, and a whole lot more, if we don't get in and fight it."





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Frankly I think that the red-meat fundie crowd is being primed to be whipped up into a storm, that along with the economy, and Iraq is going to spell defeat for the Repugnants. Remember the revulsion at Pat Pukeanan?

And the fact that Puke-anan would later go on to murder Giani Versace?
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 07:08 PM
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1. I am beginning to fear the backlash
on this Ten Commandment thing. You know the news outlets will lay this "persecution" of "faithful christians" right at the doorstep of "godless liberals." The pendulum is due to swing further to the right.
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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 07:11 PM
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3. I don't think anyone really gives a damn..
They have their little poll that says "is tearing down the ten commandments right or wrong" (duh, if you don't think about the issue for more than ten seconds which most people don't of course it sounds wrong) but I don't think it's anything that people who would ever think of voting democratic care about much at all.
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 07:30 PM
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5. Judging from the passions I have seen even on this board
I fear that you have misestimated the level of sympathy for this 10 commandment issue among democrats.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 07:42 PM
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10. Remember...99% of the people in the US could not care LESS..
as long as they have their:

Access Hollywood
E TV
Survivor
American Idol
CSI
As The World Turns
SUV's
Gas under $2 a gal
Walmarts
Playstations
CD players
sports..sports.sports


They don't give a damn about the stuff that's undermining their lives :(
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mumon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 07:48 PM
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12. From the article:
Dobson pointed to a USA Today/CNN/Gallup poll showing that 77 percent of Americans oppose the court order requiring the monument's removal from the rotunda of the Alabama Judicial Building. It was moved to a side room in the building Aug. 27.


How many have seen the thing?

How many know what the law is on the subject?

How many know about Moore's shady connections with D. James Kennedy?

(I got that last point in on a fundie radio call in show, and there were people that called in saying that the theocrats were "tearing apart the Body of Christ!")

You get these numbers because most folks don't know it's a scam.

Which will serve us well, because these wing-nuts will over extend themselves.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 07:09 PM
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2. they tried this before and failed - the fundies are not that powerful
The fundies are a faction of the Republican party, but only about 25% or so, more if you counts non-fundie bigots, racists and homophobes. They are balanced out by the libertarians, general reactionaries, and of course the rich men who pay for everything.

The fundies always make a lot of noise before the election, and the rich CEOs and executives ignore them, give them a speech during the convention (which won't air on television) and then strong arm them into voting GOP.

The American public will have little tolerance of Taliban-style rhetoric from fundamentalist CHINOS (Christians in name only) and the people running the Republican party will know when to shut them up.

The general anti-women, anti-black, anti-latino, anti-gay rhetoric will be in play, of course, unofficially.
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 07:23 PM
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4. CHINOS... I love the term! nt
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mumon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 07:34 PM
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7. That's my point:
It's kind of like giving a big Hershey bar to a hyperactive kid.

The 10 C's thing will actually backfire, because they'll basically drop the "we're fundamentalists, but we're really nice fundamentalists" and revert to their true colors: white, and their true religion: it's got a cross, but it seems to be burning.
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mumon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 07:49 PM
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13. Don't forget to add "anti-Muslim."
It's a crusade/jihad y'know.
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 07:32 PM
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6. I foresee a Scenario where this would work....
It's no secret that Dobson is overtly political. I don't think he would run, but this would happen:

If Bush's poll numbers slip further and it looks like he'll lose, Dobson would stage a "stay at home on election day" campaign. After Bush lost, he would claim it was because he, like his father, did not appeal to the Religious Right, and press for a bigger microphone in the Republican party.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 07:39 PM
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8. Never thought I would agree with James Dobson
Please Jim. Stay home on election day. And may every one of your misguided followers do the same. Especially those with Senate seats up for election.

Hell if they ALL stay home, it could be a reverse - 1994.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 07:41 PM
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9. I gotta tell ya. on the west coast
This whole thing is playing like the " Monkey Trial"
we can only shake our heads, or point and laugh........
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mumon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 07:45 PM
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11. EXACTLY!
To the rest of the world, they portray the worst stereotypes of the backwards fundamentalist Christians.
Dean's right: what did going Repuke actually get the South but spectacles like this?

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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:01 PM
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14. I hope they do turn their convention over to the nut cases
There is no doubt in my mind that Pat Buchanan's speach at the GOP convention in 1992 put Clinton over the top. It scared fence sitters and non voting liberals/dem straight to the polls.

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