GA DUers: Cathy Cox Appearance (BBV)

[Adamocrat]

Has this been posted yet? If so, I apologize.



Are any DUers attending this to pressure Cox on the voting machines investigation/debacle?

Cheers,
ADAM

[Dob Bole]

1. I don't

really know my way around Atlanta, I'm sad to say. But I respect Mark Taylor (who won in 2002 despite BBV) I'm sure people will show up and give them hell, as Atlanta generally has more liberals, and people in general, than the rest of the state.

[onehandle]

2. Look at all the Democrats....

Mark Taylor, Cathy Cox, Nan Grogan Orrock, Sam Zamarripa.

They're all in cahoots with the Republicans. Right?

[Adamocrat]

4. I'm sorry, what?

I wasn't implying that anyone is in league with the Rescumlicans. However, Cathy Cox may need a certain amount of public pressure to investigate these voting machines.

Cheers,
ADAM

[seemslikeadream]

3. I don't think it has been posted

Maybe there's a plan to attend.

[Bushfire]

5. Kick for the morning crew

:kick:

[seemslikeadream]

6. Are there any DUers going?

just wondering.

[PATRICK]

7. this raises a continuing question of mine

IN the democratic party structure who and how many are up to speed on this issue? I see some belated resistance here and there. Does each and every DNC chair and government representative have to be tackled individually? They helped write HAVA which often seems the full extent of their involvement.

They look like they are collectively walking down a dark alley with ballots sticking out of their pockets. Is this another obvious people's issue like campaign finance reform they will only champion reluctantly and partially- even though it is essential to their own realistic survival for starters?

For now our local guy is going to patch up the lever machines but the discussions are under way for the same Diebold march of progress. Already the bewildered comments by election volunteers veterans about why the rush to more problem machines. So Senator Kerry had to support the war in Iraq. Could he afford a little mojo here to make this a national issue? Or do the Dem leaders think it is a noble goal to have shiny machines to protect GOP fraud from discouraging the nation out in the open?

This has taken on the aspect of one of THOSE fantastic scandals that "will certainly spell the doom of Bush and the GOP" if only we could get it beyond the knowledge of Du GD.

How is the Rubin deeper study into the files going? How are the ACLU, the LWV, the SOS's responding? Are the investigative reporters on emigrating to join Palast before they publish the postmortems on Democracy?

I know patience, especially when the blind bluff and momentum of the corporate scam will charge on quite a few steps when mortally wounded.
But without a single united institution leading the fight into the public arena can the truth alone win?

If we have to fight each voting machine in each district we can stave off some but certainly not much in "Red" areas or in Dem precincts ill protected by their own party. And the Internet voting issue(SERVE) is coattailing Diebold and will silently parallel its way into cyberghost voting. Millions will be scammed Florida style before anyone raises a belated peep.

[Eloriel]

8. Good questions, all

I no longer trust ANY election official or even other "elected" people involved in this. They either don't know what the hell they're talking about, or they've been bought and paid for, or who knows, perhaps both.

AND we need all the help we can get. To the extent DUers can press this with your local people, local press, local whatever, please do.

Here are some "in a nutshell" points:

* “Any programmer can write code that displays one thing on a screen, records something else, and prints yet another result.” – Dr. Roberta Mercuri

* NO ONE reviews the code line-by-line to ensure that there aren't any programming errors that can negatively effect accurate vote tabulation or to ensure against malicious code. (No, state and national certification do not, as far as we can determine, do that. Our only option is to trust the vendors, all of whom have severe conflicts of interest.)

* People who are defending the current system are wont to say: Well, if these machines are so bad, where is the proof of vote fraud? Not only can they steal our votes with impunity, they’ve made it literally impossible for anyone to catch them doing it, or prove after the fact that they did.

-Certifiers at state and national level have not reviewed the code to ensure no errors or malicious code exist,
- paper ballots would be useless in a recount in many states,
- audit reports aren’t reliable for the reasons discussed in the Harris report (where showed how she was able to bypass the passwords, change votes, and then change the audit log),
- recounts on the same machine would yield the same results,
- there is no exist polling any more, and
- no one can review the code for problems after the fact either.

It’s a closed system and corporations are its owners.

* Analogies:
- Would you do business with your bank on an ATM machine that didn't provide you with a receipt?

- Would you do business with a grocery store where the receipt only gave you a total, without an itemized list and when you shopped there and said, "gee, that total sounds high, would you run the total again," all you got was the same "total only" receipt?

- States require us to have insurance on our vehicles, why do they not ensure we have insurance on our votes in the form of voter-verified paper ballots? Why, in fact, are they sooooooo adamantly against this simple "insurance"?

Eloriel