Crossfire on at 3:00 EST Today - Dean Interviewed

[joanski01]

Crossfire will be on for two hours today. - CNN

Starting at 3pm ET, Judy Woodruff's interviews will include
Democratic Presidential Candidate Howard Dean and California
Gubernatorial Candidate Cruz Bustamante. Tucker Carlson and
Paul Begala debate the presidential contest with top political
strategists and square off on the California recall with the
head of the California Democratic Party and a lead
Schwarzenegger supporter. Plus, we'll get updates from the
campaign trail. This might be a day off for most Americans, but
politics are in full gear this Labor Day and we'll be here to
bring you it all.

You won't want to miss it as "Crossfire Goes Inside Politics".
Join Judy Woodruff, Tucker Carlson, and Paul Begala at 3 p.m.
Eastern, 12 p.m. Pacific - live from the George Washington
University.

[Cha]

1. KICK!

:kick:

[Abe Linkman]

2. How is Howard any different than Clinton?

Lots of people are going to be disappointed. Those who can't bring themselves to admit uncomfortable truths, will say: "Well, at least he's better than Bush."

[Karmadillo]

4. Norman Solomon would agree with you

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0826-04.htm

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This summer, many news stories have identified Howard Dean with the left. But Dean's actual record verifies this assessment from University of Vermont political science professor Garrison Nelson: "He's really a classic Rockefeller Republican -- a fiscal conservative and social liberal." After seven years as governor, the Associated Press described Dean as "a clear conservative on fiscal issues" and added: "This is, after all, the governor who has at times tried to cut benefits for the aged, blind and disabled, whose No. 1 priority is a balanced budget."

Economic justice has been a much lower priority. During the early 1990s, Dean spearheaded a new "workfare" state law requiring labor from welfare recipients. The Vermont program later won praise as more humane "welfare reform" than what occurred in most other states. But in the summer of 1996, Dean put his weight behind the final push for President Clinton's national "welfare reform" law -- a draconian measure, slashing at an already shabby safety-net while forcing impoverished mothers to work low-wage jobs.

While some other Democrats angrily opposed Clinton's welfare reform, it won avid support from Dean. "Liberals like Marian Wright Edelman are wrong," he insisted. "The bill is strong on work, time limits assistance and provides adequate protection for children." Dean co-signed a letter to Clinton calling the measure "a real step forward."

Gov. Dean did not mind polarizing with poor people, but he got along better with the corporate sector. "Conservative Vermont business leaders praise Dean's record and his unceasing efforts to balance the budget, even though Vermont is the only state where a balanced budget is not constitutionally required," Business Week reported in its August 11 (2003) edition. "Moreover, they argue that the two most liberal policies adopted during Dean's tenure -- the 'civil unions' law and a radical revamping of public school financing -- were instigated by Vermont's ultraliberal Supreme Court rather than Dean." The magazine added: "Business leaders were especially impressed with the way Dean went to bat for them if they got snarled in the state's stringent environmental regulations."

According to Business Week, "those who know him best believe Dean is moving to the left to boost his chances of winning the nomination." A longtime Dean backer named Bill Stenger, a Vermont Republican who's president of Jay Peak Resort, predicted: "If he gets the nomination, he'll run back to the center and be more mainstream."

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[chimpymustgo]

5. Why are the media trying to shove Dean down our throats?

It's really getting pretty ridiculous.

[Pastiche423]

8. lol!

It's kinda hard to ignore all of many, many, many Dean supporters.

Too bad Edwards is not even a blip on the radar screen, eh?

[4dsc]

55. How right you are sir!!

More and more Dean supporters are showing up all the time. Next Meetup is Sept 3rd..

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

12. This is why:

Seattle.

[Terwilliger]

14. ?

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[Pastiche423]

17. Photo

[Forkboy]

42. sour grapes

[stickdog]

57. Yeah. Dean's just another media creation

like hip hop, rock'n'roll, the anti-war movement and civil rights.

[TahitiNut]

13. If Clinton were an MD ...

... would it've been called 'gynecology'? :shrug: (I doubt it.)

[realFedUp]

3. lead Schwarzennegar supporter...

David Dreier again?

[joanski01]

7. It's gotta be.

I absolutely can't stand that guy. Nothing comes out of his mouth except hypocryticial lies.

[Le Taz Hot]

6. Thanks for the heads up.

And thanks to the two posters above for expanding my "ignore" list. It's such a time-saver not having to read through the same old tired mantra.

[Woodstock]

9. I know. It's so patronizing when they say we are going to be surprised

as if we are morons who don't know his record before we support him.

Earth to Dean detractors - contrary to your beliefs

1) we know Dean's record really well
2) and we support him

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[MODemocrat]

25. I'm for Dean and have studied his credentials fully

I don't have cable, so I never see Howard Dean, so no one has pushed him off on me. He just happens to be my favorite candidate, but that's not to say I won't vote for the one who is nominated.

[proud patriot]

10. SWEET

YEAH ! :bounce:

[Buns_of_Fire]

11. Kick for your fifteen-minute warning...

:kick:

[CatWoman]

15. on now

:kick:

[poskonig]

16. Jabba the Crowley still sucks.

She made a bunch of little digs against Kerry, Kucinich, Gephardt, etc.

[Hoppin_Mad]

18. Dean doesn't come across . . .

As a 'smarmy politician'


sad to say it - but Kerry does.

[RichV]

19. Lungren

Is Lungren capable of answering a question without constantly bringing up 9/11 and terrorism? Even shifted a question about the minimum wage that way. Yeesh.

[poskonig]

20. Tucker is quoting Kerry to attack Democrats.

That really, really sucks.

[Karmadillo]

21. What was the quote? Thanks

n/t

[poskonig]

23. Kerry attacking Dean on defense yesterday.

I *knew* the Republicans were going to do this; it is bad enough when they quote Lieberman. :mad:

[proud patriot]

22. Dem Stategist uses CBS poll on bush re-election

:bounce: over 50% want someone new ...HELLO ..

Repuke being a hypocrite says Dem uses a personal attack
on bush . when all the Dem asked was "the smarter Candidate
who got the most votes would of done worse????"

Repuke then says "Clinton ignored Terrorism
Bush has not " ....

Talk about personal attack
Cliton TRIPLED the terrorism fighting budget
and left a memo for bush stating bin laddin and
al quada was going to be the number one issue bush
would have to deal with . That memo was ignored ,
Cheney's terrorism task force DID NOT meet prior
to 911 , Ashcroft didn't even have terrorism on
his priority list . :grr:

[TheDonkey]

24. Begula is rocking house

His time off reslly must of energized him. He was doing a great job of defending the left.

[proud patriot]

26. Begala just threw the repuke into a meltdown loop

It was a thing a beauty;;

Begala asking repuke "Who do you agree with more on the gun
issue Howard Dean or Ahhhhhnold" ...

Response "hold on a minute ummm dadada huh ! mmmm aaa ddaa"

It was SWEET :evilgrin:

[poskonig]

27. That was awesome!!

Lungren totally locked down on that.

[RichV]

29. Saw a similar tactic yesterday

on some show... host (wish I could remember who) asked GOPer guest if they could name any ways that Howard Dean and Arnold differed ideologically. Only thing the GOPer could come up with on the spot was that Arnold was more liberal on gun control.

Damn I wish I could remember who this was...

[Terwilliger]

28. Dean on replying to Kerry

trying not to attack

[RichV]

30. Really needs to refine response re: taxes

That answer re: raising taxes on middle class wasn't satisfactory or easily understandable for most viewers, I'd guess.

[Pepperbelly]

31. JJudy Woodruff is a shameless gop shill...

what an asshole!

[poskonig]

32. Dean is really cooking today!

He knocked the taxes and Cuba questions out of the park.

[cthrumatrix]

33. Woodruff is such "whore"...do they ever ask AWOL any questions on

"accountability" or stances before he became resident....this is all "gotcha" journalism.

[RichV]

36. Hard questions are fine

He's gonna have to answer them sometime, and almost surely during the Prez campaign and debates in fall '04 if he gets the nod. If he can defend himself well against them that's terrific. Better to dismiss and debunk these questions as quickly as possible.

Cool that they're keeping him on after the commercial break.

[Pepperbelly]

39. yeah, but ...

that desperate tone to her voice like if she doesn't get in what the RNC told her she'd be in trouble, that's what I didn't like.

:D

[cthrumatrix]

48. When the line is "whoever can defend the people" will win the election

is spouted (Tucker) you know they are scrambling... selling fear ...as opposed to any positive policies from 'shrub'....

[cthrumatrix]

34. I have to look at the bright side of this....at least he's getting

air time to share his views and to show how clearly biased the media in coverage.

[Hoppin_Mad]

35. Woodnuts belongs on FAUX

Isn't she supposed to be a reporter, not a conservative pundit ?

She's like a female Novack.

ugh

[AlinPA]

59. She went after Dean real hard, using Rove's talking points

or whoever puts them out for the media.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

37. I would like the candidates to address Bush's AWOL status

When someone asks Dean about his deferral, he should ask why they never asked Bush why he was AWOL.

[Terwilliger]

38. Q: With the party leaning toward centrist POV, how appeal to centrists?

Dean: I blance budgets...I am a centrist

[Terwilliger]

40. 2 questions?

:eyes:

[Demobrat]

41. He's not rising to the bait.

She's obviously trying to put him on the defensive but it appears he's onto that tactic. Good.

[Terwilliger]

43. What the hell is "It looks like the economy might..."

what the fuck is that Judy?????

[Pepperbelly]

44. "be starting to ..."

She was absolutely shameless today.

[Terwilliger]

45. Judy, Aaron, Paula, Wolf, Larry...its a pattern

if the talk about George Bush is negative, grab something out of the air and pump him up!

Seriously, I can see these scripts being written.

[poskonig]

46. Isn't she Al Hunt's bitch?

Given their millions, perhaps she wants the Bush tax cuts.

[TheDonkey]

47. Judy is a bimbo!

sorry if I offended anyone but she is a total idiot.

I used to think maybe she wasn't that bad, but she was really pushing to defend Bush, Bush's horrible speech today, and the economy. It was actually pathetic as she sqeaked and wobbled to make sense (which she didn't).

[TacticalPeek]

56. She only repeats the oily pap she hears oozing out of her earpiece,

which is sometimes multiple, conflicted, and silent. Soon they'll just put Rumdum or KKKarl in the booth, if they haven't already (not counting Jack Welch).

Cooking the porridge just right is getting trickier and trickier.

[proud patriot]

49. She certainly was trying to manipulate the facts there

I think Dean did pretty good . Hopefully the other Candidates will
do this . It would be great to see them each in this format IMHO.

[HFishbine]

50. Riggght

This was her self-answer to "Bush has a lot going for him:" The incumbency, the economy might be turning around, although jobs still seem to be a problem, and Iraq's not looking so good right now, ah, er...

Yes, Judy dear. That's a lot going for him all right.

[RichV]

51. Wow, heavy on Dems

Surprised this 2004 election special is so heavily focused on the Dems alone. They've really only addressed Bush in reference to the Dem candidates. And now they have advisers for three Dems on right now. Huh. No GOPers on the show so far but that Lungren bozo.

[TheDonkey]

52. No Kerry, jeez!?

Why did Kerry's team skip out on Crossfire. I remember Kerry fans saying this is the time he is going to pull out the big guns, if by that means not get free publicity then I guess he is on the right track.

[Terwilliger]

53. Gephardt doesnt feel he was misled?? Is he that stupid?

Maybe some of these "advisers" should think before they speak.

[RichV]

54. Praise for Clark...

...and lots of it from the Dean, Lieberman, and Gephardt advisors. Almost to a surprising extent.

Gephardt CoS blasting Bush on management of post-war but not on any events leading up to invasion. Hmm. Somewhat surprising.

[joanski01]

58. Thanks for the blow by blow,

guys. My satellite lost its signal due to a storm, and I didn't get to see it.