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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 12:10 PM
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Anti-Abortion Terrorist to be executed in Florida...
Edited on Wed Sep-03-03 12:13 PM by stoptheinsandity
link: http://www.boston.com/news/daily/03/activist_execution.htm


"Paul Hill, a former minister who gunned down an abortion doctor, said he feels no remorse and suggested the state will be making him a martyr when he becomes the first person executed in the United States for anti-abortion violence."

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"The sooner I am executed ... the sooner I am going to heaven," Hill said in a jailhouse interview. "I expect a great reward in heaven. I am looking forward to glory. I don't feel remorse."

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"We're very concerned that Paul Hill's call for violence may be picked up by any person to whom God speaks," said Abe Bonowitz, the head of Floridians for Alternatives to the Death Penalty. "That could be prevented. It should be."


When will "pro-lifers" start putting the rights of the already-born above the rights of the unborn? What is with these wackjobs? I lived near Buffalo when Dr. Garabedian (sp?) was slain. These crimes, besides being completely disgusting, are totally hypocritcal, something along the lines of "Let's end a life to save a life". This guy is a moran, and while I'm not a fan of the death penalty, I'm at least glad that Jeb Bush is sticking to the rule of law in this case. On a lighter note, I liked the paragraph about the "call for violence may be picked up by any person to whom God speaks", I think Whistle Ass picked up this call before he invaded Iraq;)

on edit: spelling
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MoonAndSun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 12:15 PM
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1. Paul Hill does not know what fate awaits him in the afterlife.
The old rule, "what you put out into the world comes back tenfold" - not sure of the correct wording - will apply to this man and his heinous crime of murder.
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Red_Viking Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 12:15 PM
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2. Jeb: Pro Death Penalty/anti-abortion
Does not compute.

Also, when I heard about this on NPR this morning, all I could think about was The Onion headlines after 9/11.

"Terrorists Surprised to Find Selves in Hell."

I think Mr. Hill is in for a little surprise of his own.

RV
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 12:17 PM
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3. I was thinking the same thing about wingnuts
How the hell can you support the death penalty and claim to be "pro-life"? Most of the time I can at least sort of understand the deranged way that wingnuts rationalize things, but this one evades me.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 12:17 PM
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4. I am adamantly opposed to the death penalty no matter
who the person is or what they've done. That being said, I agree, for the most part, with your last paragraph, especially your question as to when the so-called pro-lifers are going to start putting the rights of the already-born above the rights of the unborn. I'm tired of that blatant hypocrisy; if these people would work to end child abuse and neglect, child poverty and homelessness, and the overall improvement of people's lives as hard as they agitate against abortion, and if they'd actually adopt a child or become a foster parent once in awhile, things would be dramatically better in this country.

But Mr. Hill is right, unfortunately, killing him will only make him a martyr to his nutball extremists and the pro-lifers in general. As to his firm contention that he will be entering his "reward", I'm sure he will, it just may not be quite the "reward" he had in mind.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 01:15 PM
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12. Here's The Funny Part
I believe that under the Patriot Act this can be considered a form of terrorism, thereby making these wack jobs subject to arrest, under
federal anti-terrorism laws.

Think of the irony, Asscrack would have to arrest people who think just like him and put them in prison. And this could put a dent in Whistle Ass's fundamentalist support.

It could happen!!!;D
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 12:21 PM
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5. Whats the difference...
between this man and his ilk, and Islamic terrorists. I heard he said he will die happily knowing his reward is in heaven. Sick sick guy, and if he wasnt a card carrying Repuke he would probably be called what he is, a terrorist.

BTW I against putting him to death, but only becasue I oppose the death penalty in all situations.

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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 12:35 PM
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6. Exactly, there is no difference
Apparently the only thing separating the terrorists and guys like this is the fact that people who kill doctors are Christian.

People like this guy make me sick.

I think we should start labeling these people as terrorists.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 12:49 PM
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7. I think I just had a huge epifany
about abortion:

"Pro-lifers" (someone here a long time ago suggested we call them the "coathanger coalition") are very adamant about their anti-abortion stance. Why?

Based on their positions regarding social programs and education, they obviously don't give a shit about children. I mean, if these people are so self-absorbed that they won't even pay a $2 tax increase to help fund schools and fire stations, then why the hell would they care if a fetus is aborted?

They want pregnant women to carry children to term. They are with single mothers all the way while they are pregnant, just so they don't have an abortion.

Once the child is born, however, they suddenly don't give a shit. They all disappear. They call the mother a whore, they don't care that she has to work sixty hours a week. They won't fund day care programs, they detest any form of welfare, and they won't help the kid go to a good school, let alone a college.

Why do they hate humanity but still love the fetus?

Then it occured to me: This is a religious issue. Life begins at conception, according to most Christian doctrines.
Therefore, an "attack" on the fetus is an attack on the validity of the Bible.

Of course, the Bible also says that you should be charitable, kind and tolerant.
But they don't care about that shit.

Fighting abortions is how they plan to get to heaven.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 12:57 PM
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9. ComerPerro, I'm with you 100%, check out this article
that was posted a month or so ago on DU entitled "how to beat the right in three minutes". It touches upon many of the points that you just mentioned.

http://www.conceptualguerilla.com/beattherightinthree.htm

happy reading!
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 12:57 PM
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10. ComerPerro, I'm with you 100%, check out this article
that was posted a month or so ago on DU entitled "how to beat the right in three minutes". It touches upon many of the points that you just mentioned.

http://www.conceptualguerilla.com/beattherightinthree.htm

happy reading!
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 01:04 PM
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11. You went to deep and lost reality
They fight abortions because they think its a moral issue, and they love to bitch about moral issues. However keep in mind that a fetus doesn't cost them any money, so as soon as that kid needs anything in the real world they are out faster then you can say 'praise Jesus!'.

You see with RW christians God is cool but only as long as they don't have to give any money to a poor person. I mean hell if they did that how would they help Falwell build a new wing on his house?
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 12:53 PM
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8. He is not a Anti-Abortion Terrorist
He is a Christian Terrorist. No double standards please, if Osama is a Islamic Terrorist as opposed to a anti-western culture terrorist then this person should be labeled likewise.

Also for those who may be interested, this comment: I don't feel remorse. according to Christian teaching means he can't get into heaven. If you do not repent your sins you aren't allowed into the minigolf course in the sky.

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