Matthews kept putting words in his mouth...
"KUCINICH: OK. Thanks, Chris. I think criminalization of abortion would set this country back.
MATTHEWS: Who is proposing criminalization of abortion?
KUCINICH: Actually, Congress has been increasingly moving in the direction.
MATTHEWS: Who supports criminal punishments for abortion.
KUCINICH: Congress has been increasingly moving in the direction towards criminalization.
MATTHEWS: Name a U.S. congressperson.
KUCINICH: It¡¯s a fact.
MATTHEWS: Name a Congressperson who supports putting people in jail for having an abortion. Name one.
KUCINICH: Trent Lott, at the beginning of this Congress, stated that it was the number one agenda for his, the legislative agenda to move forward to make abortion illegal.
MATTHEWS: No, you said to put them in jail, to criminalize abortion. Name a member of Congress who wants to-name any member of Congress in either party who says put a person in jail for having an abortion. Name one.
KUCINICH: I campaigned for Congress in 1996 against an opponent who was backing a constitutional amendment to make abortion illegal. And what I¡¯m saying that it¡¯s important in this country-
MATTHEWS: You didn¡¯t say that. You said criminalize it. You said put a person in jail for having an abortion. Do you believe any member of Congress wants to do that?
KUCINICH: Well, I think there are members of Congress who want to do that. That¡¯s absolutely right.
MATTHEWS: Name one.
KUCINICH: This isn¡¯t about naming one.
MATTHEWS: Name one. Name one.
KUCINICH: I think Chris Smith would support it. I do...
MATTHEWS: He would. Well, that¡¯s a nice subjective move, but you don¡¯t have his testimony supporting it. We¡¯ll check with him on that. I think it¡¯s a rotten thing to say.
Let¡¯s go on...
KUCINICH: What¡¯s a rotten thing to say?
MATTHEWS: To say that somebody in Congress wants to put a woman in jail for having an abortion when you don¡¯t even know their name.
KUCINICH: Well, you asked me to...
MATTHEWS: Name one.
KUCINICH: You asked me to who would be responsible and take that kind of a position. And I think Chris has had a strong position all of his life on it, and I think he¡¯s probably be..
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