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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:12 AM
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Every time I see Powell I remember what Belafonte said about him
Remember Harry called him a house slave? He is more and more Bush's house slave...He seems to be acting more and more evasively when answering questions....his head wagging from side to side and his eyes darting around as he was just now on CNN!...His lies are so transparent....Pathetic!
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GainesT1958 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:14 AM
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1. Wonder if, in the privacy of his own den, he ever ponders:
"Damn, Alma...I could have been president...instead of this moron I have to answer to!":eyes:

B-)
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cherryperry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:21 AM
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2. I didn't know that, so
thank you for one more reason that I adore Harry B!!!

:pals:
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:22 AM
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3. Yeah, it's really pathetic that a man I respected
could be brought so low.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:29 AM
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4. That and then some!
I have Harry Belafonte on tape at the Feb.15th Protest in NYC!

Harry is only one of my Heros! :kick:
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Lastgasp Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:33 AM
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5. You speak the truth about Powell
And should you be interested in even more truth about his character, read Sidney Blumenthal's "The Clinton Wars." When Clinton took office in 1993 Powell was still head of the Joint Chiefs, and he used his power to knife Clinton at every opportunity. Not a classy guy. If that weren't enough, he spawned Michael Powell who heads the FCC and rules our airwaves.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 11:50 AM
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7. House slave Colin has been covering massa's ass for ages

See how house slave Colin responded to a letter of complaint by an American GI, Tom Glen, asking for an invetigation of incidents of cruelty and barbarity by US troops on Vietnamese civilians. Although Glen, didn't specifically mention My Lai in his letter (he said at the time he wrote the letter he had only heard second hand stories of the My Lai incident), in his letter he complained of witnessing numerous incidents of torture and abuses of civilians by US forces.


Glen's letter contended that many Vietnamese were fleeing from Americans who "for mere pleasure, fire indiscriminately into Vietnamese homes and without provocation or justification shoot at the people themselves." Gratuitous cruelty was also being inflicted on Viet Cong suspects, Glen reported.

<snip>

"It would indeed be terrible to find it necessary to believe that an American soldier that harbors such racial intolerance and disregard for justice and human feeling is a prototype of all American national character; yet the frequency of such soldiers lends credulity to such beliefs. ... What has been outlined here I have seen not only in my own unit, but also in others we have worked with, and I fear it is universal. If this is indeed the case, it is a problem which cannot be overlooked, but can through a more firm implementation of the codes of MACV (Military Assistance Command Vietnam) and the Geneva Conventions, perhaps be eradicated."

<snip>

After that cursory investigation, Powell drafted a response on Dec. 13, 1968. He admitted to no pattern of wrongdoing. Powell claimed that U.S. soldiers in Vietnam were taught to treat Vietnamese courteously and respectfully. The Americal troops also had gone through an hour-long course on how to treat prisoners of war under the Geneva Conventions, Powell noted.

<snip>

Powell reported back exactly what his superiors wanted to hear. "In direct refutation of this portrayal," Powell concluded, "is the fact that relations between Americal soldiers and the Vietnamese people are excellent."


More at www.consortiumnews.com/archive/colin3.html

See also the links to other stories about Colin's distinguished military career at: www.consortiumnews.com/archive/colin.html
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 11:05 AM
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6. Yesterday, I catched him on C-Span
And he has this new idiotic smile when he is lying...
By coincidence, Michael Powell was on C-Span 2 simultaneously! what a whammy!
NEPOTISM AT ITS BEST!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 03:45 PM
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8. Weirdos! Like they aren't in for the Power! they're gonin'
Down Down Down!
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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 04:02 PM
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9. Powell tried to help miltry coverup My Lai massacre too.
Powell has been a 'sell-out' for decades.
Powell learned early in his military career that he would be
promoted if he 'went-along' with what the brass wanted
even when it was lies and death to civilians

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Colin Powell served in a higher level position for this Vietnam military massacre unit...he lied about what happened here, and covered it up for his superiors...Powell has no moral authority to speak for the United States of America (especially before the world, in the UN)...he should have been disciplined for his part in this horror...or resigned in shame...and who knows how many more unreported massacres occurred in Vietnam due to Powell's failure to take action on My Lai....

here is a graphic depiction of the massacre from Time magazine -

http://pathfinder.com/photo/essay/mylai/mylaihp.htm


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A letter had been written by a young specialist fourth class named Tom Glen, who had served in an Americal mortar platoon and was nearing the end of his Army tour. In the letter to Gen. Creighton Abrams, the commander of all U.S. forces in Vietnam, Glen accused the Americal division of routine brutality against civilians. Glen's letter was forwarded to the Americal headquarters at Chu Lai where it landed on Major Powell's desk.

......"Far beyond merely dismissing the Vietnamese as 'slopes' or 'gooks,' in both deed and thought, too many American soldiers seem to discount their very humanity; and with this attitude inflict upon the Vietnamese citizenry humiliations, both psychological and physical, that can have only a debilitating effect upon efforts to unify the people in loyalty to the Saigon government, particularly when such acts are carried out at unit levels and thereby acquire the aspect of sanctioned policy."
Glen's letter contended that many Vietnamese were fleeing from Americans who “for mere pleasure, fire indiscriminately into Vietnamese homes and without provocation or justification shoot at the people themselves.” Gratuitous cruelty was also being inflicted on Viet Cong suspects, Glen reported.

“Fired with an emotionalism that belies unconscionable hatred, and armed with a vocabulary consisting of 'You VC,' soldiers commonly 'interrogate' by means of torture that has been presented as the particular habit of the enemy. Severe beatings and torture at knife point are usual means of questioning captives or of convincing a suspect that he is, indeed, a Viet Cong. ...

“It would indeed be terrible to find it necessary to believe that an American soldier that harbors such racial intolerance and disregard for justice and human feeling is a prototype of all American national character; yet the frequency of such soldiers lends credulity to such beliefs. ...

“What has been outlined here I have seen not only in my own unit, but also in others we have worked with, and I fear it is universal. If this is indeed the case, it is a problem which cannot be overlooked, but can through a more firm implementation of the codes of MACV (Military Assistance Command Vietnam) and the Geneva Conventions, perhaps be eradicated."


Powell's Response

The letter's troubling allegations were not well received at Americal headquarters. Major Powell undertook the assignment to review Glen's letter, but did so without questioning Glen or assigning anyone else to talk with him. Powell simply accepted a claim from Glen's superior officer that Glen was not close enough to the front lines to know what he was writing about, an assertion Glen denies.

After that cursory investigation, Powell drafted a response on Dec. 13, 1968. He admitted to no pattern of wrongdoing. Powell claimed that U.S. soldiers in Vietnam were taught to treat Vietnamese courteously and respectfully. The Americal troops also had gone through an hour-long course on how to treat prisoners of war under the Geneva Conventions, Powell noted.

"There may be isolated cases of mistreatment of civilians and POWs," Powell wrote in 1968. But "this by no means reflects the general attitude throughout the Division." Indeed, Powell's memo faulted Glen for not complaining earlier and for failing to be more specific in his letter. "In direct refutation of this portrayal," Powell concluded, "is the fact that relations between Americal soldiers and the Vietnamese people are excellent."

Powell's findings, of course, were false, though they were exactly what his superiors wanted to hear.

It would take another Americal hero, an infantryman named Ron Ridenhour, to piece together the truth about the atrocity at My Lai. After returning to the United States, Ridenhour interviewed Americal comrades who had participated in the massacre.
On his own, Ridenhour compiled this shocking information into a report and forwarded it to the Army inspector general. The IG's office conducted an aggressive official investigation, in marked contrast to Powell's review.
Confirming Ridenhour's report, the Army finally faced the horrible truth. Courts martial were held against officers and enlisted men who were implicated in the murder of the My Lai civilians.

After the scandal broke, Powell pleaded ignorance about the actual My Lai massacre.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/121700b.html
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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 04:02 PM
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10. Powell was a fraud. While Hugh Thompson helicopter pilot hero at My Lai
Edited on Thu Sep-04-03 04:06 PM by protect freedom impe
http://www.acadianhouse.com/hughthompson/story.htm

U.S. troops had killed hundreds of unarmed
Vietnamese civilians in the infamous My Lai
massacre in March of 1968. Then Hugh
Thompson and his crew stepped in, risking
their lives to stop the slaughter.

by TRENT ANGERS

War is a terrible thing. It can bring out the ugliest and most brutal side of people, yet it can summon forth the most noble instincts that live within the hearts of human beings. This was certainly the case during the Vietnam War and the war before that and the war before that.

During the Vietnam War, many soldiers were cited for extraordinary acts of courage and bravery in the face of life-threatening circumstances. One of these people was Hugh C. Thompson Jr. of Broussard, La.

Thompson, now 54 years old, is being recognized for his heroic and successful efforts to save the lives of innocent civilians who were being pursued by American soldiers. He has been aptly described as the hero of the My Lai massacre – the soldier who stepped in to stop his fellow soldiers who were on a murderous rampage, totally out of control, at My Lai, South Vietnam.

W.R. Peers, the three-star Army general who spearheaded the official inquiry into the My Lai (pronounced Me-Lie) atrocities, has saluted Thompson as a hero:

"He was the only American who cared enough to take action to protect the Vietnamese noncombatants. If there was a hero at My Lai, he was it."


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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 04:10 PM
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11. Powell was no war hero. Just another war bastard
remember....the Army 'tried' to whitewash the massacre.
remember the Army tried to stop these awards to US soldiers,
soldiers who helped stopped the other US soldiers from
continuing to kill women children old men in the village
of My Lai

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Army awards veterans who stopped My Lai massacre

http://www.dtic.mil/armylink/news/Mar1998/a19980311mylai.html

by Michael Norris


WASHINGTON (Army News Service, March 11, 1998) -- Three soldiers were recognized Friday for heroism in saving Vietnamese civilians from attack by U.S. troops in the village of My Lai in 1968.

The pilot and the door gunner of an Army helicopter supporting an infantry operation in Quang Ngai Province received the Soldiers Medal. The Soldiers Medal will be awarded the family of a third crewman who was later killed in action during the war.

Hugh C. Thompson Jr. and Lawrence Colburn stood side by side at the outdoor ceremony near the Vietnam Veterans Memorial as citations for the medal were read. Maj. Gen. Michael W. Ackerman, commander of the U.S. Army Signal Center and Fort Gordon, Ga., presented Thompson and Colburn with the awards. The citations said the two saved 11 Vietnamese villagers from being killed by American soldiers.

Ackerman, who commanded a gunship platoon in the Americal Division two years after the events for which Thompson and Colburn were being honored, praised them as embodying the best of Army values and for "setting the standard" on a day that was "one of the most shameful chapters in the Army's history."

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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 04:13 PM
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12. New Republic on Powell's coverup of My Lai massacre
read this New Republic article about Colin Powell and his involvement in the initial cover-up of the My Lai Massacre -

http://www.tnr.com/politics/cnote/lane041795.html

THE NEW REPUBLIC
The Legend of Colin Powell
by Charles Lane

Issue date 04.17.95



I.

On the morning of March 16, 1968, soldiers from the U.S. Army's Americal Division entered the hamlet of My Lai 4 in South Vietnam. On the orders of Lt. William Calley, they tortured and murdered hundreds of helpless civilians. They raped the women and girls. It was the moral and professional nadir of the post-World War ii U.S. Army. To compound the shame, the Americal's top- ranking officers covered up the crimes. Only after a conscientious young soldier named Ron Ridenhour detailed the massacre in a letter to his congressman did the Army investigate, eventually setting loose a torrent of public outrage.......

continued...three pages..

http://www.tnr.com/politics/cnote/lane041795.html

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ALSO read this article about Powell and the My Lai massacre -
http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/colin3.html
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