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RobertFrancisK Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 04:15 PM
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The Clark Administration
Here are some ideas for the Clark administration. Tell me what you think.

President: Wesley Clark

Vice President: May Landrieu- Proved she can win in the south and bring women and african americans to the polls

Head of the DNC: Howard Dean- Can raise money and will recruit candidates with some backbone

Press Secretary: Al Franken

Attorney General: John Conyers- A liberal and african american, the exact opposite of Ashcroft in every way, thank god

Secretary of Labor: Dennis Kucinich

Secretary of Energy: Joe Kennedy

Sec of Interior: Al Gore (or head of EPA)

Sec of State, NS Advisor, Director of Homeland Sec: Clark would know the right people to put in these jobs.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 04:16 PM
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1. we dont agree on candiates
but DK would be good for labor. Conyers how good does that sound :) very.
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RobertFrancisK Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 04:46 PM
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5. I think Conyers would be perfect
WHoever the next administration is, I think it will be vital that a solid liberal is made Attorney General. I care about who gets that post more than any other cabinet spot. There is so much corporate crime out there going unpunished and Ashcroft has made such a mess, it needs to be cleaned up. Plus, Michigan has a Democrat governor so we wouldn't lose a seat, and having the first black attorney general come after a huge bigot like Ashcroft would be perfect. Especially an incredible guy like Conyers.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 04:48 PM
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6. Conyers is a great guy
I wouldnt mind that at all. He is such a great guy. BTW judging by your sn you like RFK eh? well with DK and Wellstone and FDR and Truman hes one of my big heroes.
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RobertFrancisK Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 05:31 PM
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8. yeah he was good guy
It's a shame really what happens to great men like him and wellstone. By the way, have you read Wellstone's book "The Conscience of a Liberal"? If you liked Paul, you'd love the book. It's amazing how he doesn't sound like a politician at all, just like a regular guy with a heart of gold.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 05:33 PM
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9. cool thanks
Yea it is a shame. BTW Paul grew up near here and Bobby lived around here too, my dad's brother would had been a classmate of Paul had he not went to Bishop O'Connell. I would had loved Wellstone/Kucinich as a ticket, it would make up a lot, more experience no offense DK and a all the pro choicer again no offense to Dennis. Wellstone was a great guy.
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RobertFrancisK Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 05:39 PM
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10. I thought Gore should have picked Wellstone over Lieberman
Wellstone was a man of integrity, no one on either side doubts that, so he would've given the ticket the morality edge Gore needed to offset the Clinton taint. ANd he was Jewish so he would have energized Florida, as well as offsetting the Green vote. Oh well.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 08:30 PM
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18. RFK is the greatest President this country never had
Can you imagine him today as President or AG going after the corporate theives and the energy companies that are ripping us off? Bobby would be like a pitbull on raw meat. We NEED a fighter like him today.
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 09:30 PM
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24. We need Spitzer as national AG.
He's been doing that for years in New York.
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NewJerseyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 05:56 PM
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12. Governor doesn't matter
Conyer's seat would stay in democratic hands because he represents the very democratic city of Detroit but the governor can't appoint replacements in the House of Representatives. The governor only appoints replacements in the Senate. In the House there is a special election in the district to fill the vacancy.

Also, Conyers would be 75 years old. It isn't extremely old to hold public office, just look at Robert Byrd or Strom Thurmond, but it would have to be taken into consideration.
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CentristDemocrat Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 04:18 PM
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2. Press Secretary Al Franken? yeah right
I hope that one was a joke. How would you feel about Bush Press Secretary Sean Hannity? Same thing.
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RobertFrancisK Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 04:22 PM
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4. That was for a bit of humor
It would be funny, but not practical.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 08:36 PM
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19. You think Al Franken is the equivalent of Sean Hannity?
Edited on Thu Sep-04-03 08:38 PM by Lefty48197
I wouldn't make that comparison.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 04:20 PM
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3. I'm not trying to start trouble
If by some chance Dean does not become the nominee for either Pres or VP...do you know what a tremendous DNC Chair he would make?

In some regards that's overkill for the position but he would be the proverbial 300lb gorilla in that position.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 06:33 PM
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14. Frankly, I think that's pretty insulting
For one thing, you somehow equate Dean's financial support from the people into something akin to "fundraising ability" which can be translated to other venues or causes. That couldn't be further from the truth. The people who are sending in their $58 contributions -- and most of them for the first time ever -- are investing in their hopes and dreams. Any attempt to merely "fundraise" on those terms would be cynical and the very antithesis of what Dean is all about anyway.

Eloriel
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 08:42 PM
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20. I disagree Eloriel
I think it was high praise to consider Dean for DNC Chairman. It would give him an excellent opportunity to leave his personal mark on elections all across the country. The internet fundraising is the rage of the future, and who better than Dean to implement that formula into party fundraising
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 04:51 PM
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7. Gary Hart
will likely be the next Director of Homeland Security if ANY of the dems wins.

I love Conyers as AG.... but I think it may well be NY's Elliot Spitzer. I'd love to see David Boies as Solicitor General.
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JasonBerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:59 PM
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28. I think Hart's a Lock on Defense
While Homeland sounds natural because of his work on the Hart-Rudman commission, Hart's real strength lies in defense issues. Knows the lay of the land every which way. Will make an excellent Secretary of Defense.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 05:47 PM
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11. Sec of State or NSA
Richard Holbrooke is sure to be in there somewhere. Actually is any Dem makes the WH, Holbrooke needs to be considered. He's very brash, but always get the job done.

Joe Wilson also comes to mind as a deserving Dem.

Somedays it's just so much fun to dream.

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NewJerseyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 06:10 PM
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13. Not Gore or Landrieu
I really doubt that he would want to be EPA administrator of Interior Secretary after coming so close to the presidency and after being Vice President. I think that would be a demotion from ex-Vice President to some cabinet secretary.

I'm not a fan of Mary Landrieu. I really don't like her opinion on things like the environment. But, electorally she would probably be great. Unfortunately none of the other democratic women in the senate seem perfect for the job. Boxer is too liberal, Feinstein is too moderate, bipartisan and old, Clinton is too Clinton, Lincoln is too.... has to run for reelection in 2004 in Arkansas, Murray has too much baggage (unfortunate Bin Laden statement), Mikulski is too liberal and too old. Stabenow and Cantwell could be fine but they were only elected in 2000 and don't seem like the best candidates. Right now it is hard to find a good female presidential or vice presidential candidate because there aren't enough in the senate or the governor's mansions. I think that a female candidate in general would be excellent, but I just don't know which one.
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RobertFrancisK Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 07:49 PM
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15. In all honesty
The VP doesn't do too much anyway. But I like Landrieu, although she's not really a liberal, but she's strong on civil rights. And I think she'd be a good pick in terms of getting elected and she's very telegenic and well spoken. She'd make Cheney look terrible in the debates: a good looking, thoughtful, well spoken middle aged woman vs. an old gargoyle that has the look of evil in his eyes.
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NewJerseyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 09:14 PM
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22. Landrieu in 2012?
I would just think that she would be the favorite to win the nomination in 2012. I wouldn't like to have that happen.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 09:28 PM
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23. Women governors
Keep one eye on Michigan's Jennifer Granholm and the other on Arizona's Janet Napolitano.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 08:04 PM
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16. To get him there... Carol Mosely Braun as a policy advisor...
Braun has very good policy positions IMHO... She rocks. It's too bad she is too tainted to be taken seriously. But I love her.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 09:37 PM
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26. Hi, Kahuna
I like her, too. She is so well spoken and gracious, not to mention smart. It's a shame about that baggage, but I still don't think they treat her candidacy seriously enough. It seems to me that every candidate has something or other that some segments of the population are critical of.

How did she defend herself at the time? I can't remember. I know there were a couple of things that caused her not to run again, both tainted with illegalities?
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 08:26 PM
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17. There are some excellent names on that list
Except Landrieu. I'm glad she won, but that painted on smile during the campaign made me want to barf. It's just too insincere.
Bill Richardson is my first choice to be Wesley's VP nominee. Gephardt would be good too, but I think Dick would make an excellent Sec'y of Labor. Kucinich would strike fear into the hearts of polluters as Sec'y of the Interior. I'd even join him in a round of "This land if your land, this land is my land..."
Conyers, Franken, and Dean all sound like EXCELLENT choices for the positions mentioned. I also agree about Clark making wise choices for the security positions.
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 09:13 PM
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21. Landrieu couldn't bring black voters...
They just voted for her because they didn't want to give Bush anything else. Breaux would be better at that, or Edwards, or any number of others.
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 09:34 PM
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25. Richardson for the VP slot
and I don't think it's terribly likely that our former VP and legitimate President Gore would take a post as Sec of the Interior, but he would be excellent for it.

How about just putting Al Franken in charge of the innauguration party? That would be a gas.:party:

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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:09 PM
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27. I'd rather have Blanche Lincoln...
....than Mary for any office. Lincoln is quite impressive.

For vice president I believe America needs someone with moral authority who has a history of fighting for the sanctity of the vote and for civil rights and working people.

Democrats are stupid not to capitalize on the party's history -- it's time to name an African American out of the civil rights movement for veep. It's the right thing to do.

Congressman John Lewis -- America needs him as vice president.
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shatoga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 11:37 PM
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29. bumpers
bump!
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