Forget Olberman

[gWbush is Mabus]

you people are all acting like K.O. is our new savior b/c he mentioned voting irregularities.

WAKE UP!

he is a yellow journalist with less OVERT bias
but he is still one of THEM.


do not take false comfort - MSNBC is one of the most perverse propaganda cable news stations out there.
MSNBC is NOT fair and balanced!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KO is NOT fair and balanced!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THIS IS NOT FLAMEBAIT!
YOU PEOPLE NEED TO REALIZE THAT THE ENTIRE MEDIA IS CONSERVATIVELY BIASED!

they give you a crumb and you think its a loaf of bread.

we are not going to change the American propaganda media machine by settling for a wolf in sheeps clothing.

[Walt Starr]

1. Where there's smoke

:eyes:

Not this shit again!

[wryter2000]

3. Hmmm

I think he didn't like my volunteering to do the fucking of Olberman. I imagine I might have to wait in a line, though.

[Zuni]

2. At least Olbermann had the balls to put this on prime time news

just because he can't do everything we want doesn't mean he hasn't stuck his friggin neck out

[gWbush is Mabus]

8. you mean his editors allowed him to read the teleprompter

and that gives him "balls"

[Zuni]

15. He picks his stories, and no one else seems to have shown much interest

It is Olbermann who goes out there, putting his reputation and his career on the line to report what no one else seems interested in.

[King Coal]

4. Did you figure that out all by yourself? We know that.

KO does stand out from the rest. Why bash him?

[molly]

5. Pleeeeezzzzzz - let us give thanks for any battles won

and - YES - this is flamebait!

on edit - AND because of KO, other news channels are picking up on this. It was on Washington Journal this morning.

[Zuni]

16. Exactly---KO gave this story legs

He is the one who got into millions of households. He risked his career to report this and has endured vicious assaults from RWers on FOX for taking a principled stand.

We should stand with him.

[gWbush is Mabus]

25. he mentioned a story on a tv station

stand with him?


if O'rielly mentiioned a story on a station,
would you stand with him.



whatever, you can stand with him all you want,
all i am saying is this:

"I love KO"
":Ko is the best"
KO has the best blog...look what he wrote"
KO is so handsome"
"KO is so fair and balanced"

it makes YOU lose focus of what is really going on:
GE/MSNBC/ cable news media is ultra-conservatively biased and out to fuck us over!

[Avalux]

6. Good Lord -

You weren't done, were you? :crazy:

[in_cog_ni_to]

7. Please stop attacking Olbermann!

Please? We NEED him. OK? I hope this threads gets locked too.

[Walt Starr]

9. I think the idea is to get DU hostile towards Olberman

or vice versa.

It's pretty transparent, IMO.

[gWbush is Mabus]

10. don't cling to false hope

he turned you "liberals" against Bev. Harris.

what's next

DON'T SIDE WITH THE ENEMY

[Walt Starr]

11. Ms. Harris began losing credibilty long before Olberman's blog

:eyes:

[LSdemocrat]

14. Why the need to think in terms of enemy vs. ally?

We generally don't live in a world of absolutes. While Olbermann isn't perfect, can't you accept that he is a better shade of grey than other TV news anchors.

[Zuni]

17. Olbermann is the best we have

no other major media figure touched this until he got it going

[gWbush is Mabus]

20. better shade of grey

he is a fucking moderate (right of center) reporter on a very conservatively biased cable news station

you people act like K.O. is going to come to the Dems rescue.
He will not!

where was he when Bush said there were WMD
where was he when war crimes were being committed
Where was he when the media was trashing Dean scream
where was he when Swift Boat vets were smearing ?KJerry

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT

now wake the fuck up!

[LSdemocrat]

21. I've never claimed that Olbermann is the Dems savior or anything like that

I honestly don't understand your mindset. Why do you feel the need to classify people as absolute enemies? What good could you possibly see come from it?

[gWbush is Mabus]

23. i am not saying he is an enemy

i am saying he is a gear on the conservative media propaganda machine that is destroying this country


and you people are acting like he is the best thing since Ghandi

[in_cog_ni_to]

30. Excuse me, gWbush is Mabus, BUT

I am NOT against Bev Harris! I'm not siding with any enemy here. I don't see Bev OR Keith as the enemy. We need them both. We need Bev to get the evidence needed to kick the bastard out of the WH and we need Olbermann to get it out to the sheeple.

From what I have read on DU today, Olbermann's producer never told him that he/she canceled Bev's scheduled appearance on his show and THAT is why he thought Bev canceled it. I suspect we will see that tid-bit of info on his blog very soon. Lay off of Olbermann. He's on OUR side.

[gWbush is Mabus]

12. we NEED Powell too right?

b/c he is "less" of a bad guy?

[Walt Starr]

13. Jeezus H. Christ!

Apples and Oranges!

Harris brought the shit storm down on herself via her motivations and agenda.

[AmerDem]

24. You better read her reply before further slamming her

At this point i'm not sure what to make of all of this but something is starting to stink on one side or another.



http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

[Walt Starr]

26. I've read her reply

IMO, Olberman has far more credibility than Harris. since this is a "he said she said" deal at this time, I stick with Olberman over Harris.

She lost a lot of credibility with me a long time ago.

[AmerDem]

27. in what way?

can you explain?

[Walt Starr]

28. Drama drama drama,. SOMETHING BIG IN BBV IS ABOUT TO BREAK

bullshit for four years.

[Freddie Stubbs]

35. I only seem to recall this going on for two years

Right about the time of the 2002 elections.

[ProfessorGAC]

34. Quite A Nonsequitur, There!

The Professor

[kentuck]

18. I have not come to praise Caesar but to kill him...

Hmmmm...

[Proud2BAmurkin]

19. You're right. Anyone who still has cable is PART OF THE PROBLEM

might as well give a big fat donation to the rnc if you still have cable.

[gWbush is Mabus]

22. EXACTLY

some high-up at GE was thinking:

hmmmm lets sell lots of bombs and conservative media

and lets even try to get some money from "goddam libruls"
with a station that we market as "moderate"

[SleeplessinSoCal]

29. Write Keith

I've just caught up on my reading. I wrote him asking him to please invite her on again.

I think this is an honest try by Keith to call Bev Harris out. Hopefully she'll be on the program. We should encourage both to get together and talk.

[molly]

31. I guess I'm missing something? call her out?

[Generator]

32. This is so typical of DU

Jump all over any media type the minute they say something you don't agree with. Or maybe Smirky Mcchimpster always thought Olbermann was one of "them".

All I can say is I've been watching the guy for almost two years now and he's been consistent all the way through.

And here's a clue-Olbermann actually has integrity and actually despises George W. Bush. HE doesn't hide it. HE doesn't hide the fact that he finds people like Coulter and Malkin and FOX "news" repugnant.

His coverage of the whole 9/11 hearings whitewash period was brilliant. Do I trust MSNBC? Hell no. But the man is not his network or even with the majority of his "profession" these days. He his his own man. And THAT IS WHY he was the first, and for days the only to cover any election fraud story.

And if you had a clue-o-meter you could tell in his heart of hearts Keith is hoping there was a chance the election could actually be overturned.

[Forkboy]

33. Not one of.....THEM!

Egads

:silly:

[bklyncowgirl]

36. The media is biased, whoa, stop the presses.

I guess your solution is to just stick your head in the sand and not bother with the mainstream media because they are (shudder) not pure.

Well, do that and you can keep the movement pure--pure and small. In order to reach the people, you have to go where they go and that's mainstream media. Sure a guy like Olbermann can't do everything you'd like or I'd like for that matter. But the vast majority of people get their news from TV.

Yes, TV news sucks and the cable networks suck even more than the broadcast networks. That being said, I see no reason to scream out a diatribe against one of the few decent guys on cable TV. Hell, I'll even give Matthews credit on those rare occaisions when he cuts through the crap and actually acts like a damn reporter.

Of course we can all just listen to Pacifica and not pollute our minds. As for me, I want to know what people who are not on side are hearing and support those few people in the mainstream who are trying to do a decent job.

[Moderator]

37. please discuss here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=104661&mesg_id=104661