Lets out all the dirty slime repukes! A rant and request!

[foreigncorrespondent]

I have always been against the outing of any gay person, regardless of their political affiliation. Mostly because when a gay person comes out, it really is a very private thing. Often a lot of time and thought has gone into the preparation for coming out.

There are of course other reasons why I was against the public outing of people. Those are reasons I have stated many times on this forum and others, so I won't go into them again.

Recently though I have found my feelings about outing people has begun to change. Today though, I am bloody well angry, and I am not gonna sit back any longer and watch these self hating homosexuals on the repuke team continuously work against us while getting a major fucking pass from their repuke counterparts.

What has changed my mind? Reading the following thread, and further, reading the entire article linked from that thread:

Hustler chronicles the private gay life of CA Republican Rep. David Dreier Posted in LBN by Newsjock.

I read that entire article and am appalled by the pass the local press has given this idiot, but also the pass the repukes themselves have given this idiot. And I am not talking about little repukes either, I am talking about people like the Bush* clan, Ahhhhhrnold, et al.

I am tired of being forced to live apart from the woman I love more than life itself, while this idiot has his live in boyfriend on the highest possible wage he could give him. Plus tours the world at the tax payers expense.

DU we need to form a group with the specific purpose being to work towards outing every last self hating homo republican there is.

They have waged war on the queer community and the BLUE community, and it is about fucking time we stopped pussy footing around and did something about it,. After all, those that represent every last democratic American here has been giving the repukes a bloody pass for the last four years. Well I say NO MORE!

I am tired of losing time with my partner and my American friends. I want to come home, but while self hating homo idiot republicans continue to help their dirty rotten party work against us, I won't be able to come home. And unless we do something, there won't be a home left for me to come home to.

So anyone interested in something like this, then let us begin working. Let us show these assholes for the hypocrites they truly are.

[NVMojo]

1. there is a top ranking nevada official just like this, repuke, of course

got the wife and kids cover to boot. I am with you, I hate hypocrites like this.

[foreigncorrespondent]

10. Got a name for us?

What we need to do first is put a list of suspected self loathing repuke queers together and then begin researching from there.

[Old and In the Way]

2. I totally agree............pure hypocrisy....totally devoid of priniciple

IMHO. I guess that's what makes them Republicans.

I think it's really up to gay Democrats to take this issue on, though.

[foreigncorrespondent]

11. I understand...

...why you say it should be the gay Dem's who address this, but truly, I think this needs to be a total group effort.

The way we have always gotten things done here at DU has always been for us to stick together. Lately though, we have been coming apart at the seems.

More than ever we here at DU really do need to stick together if we are going to undo the right wing strangle hold the repukes have on the U.S.

[Old and In the Way]

25. I'm totally with my gay brothers and sisters here foreigncorrespondent

And I expose this kind of hypocrisy whenever the opportunity arises. But hetero's are in an awkward position when we condemn people based on their sexual orientation. We are doing the very thing that we want society to stop doing....picking on people based on their sexual preference.

Seems to me that gays need to zero in on the Drier's and Melman's in the Republican Party and make them pay a political price for aligning themselves with the Party that is making political capital on demonizing gays.

[foreigncorrespondent]

27. Oh I understand that!

I mean in regards to research is where we are going to need the help! In relation to getting this stuff out, it will be best for us to do that.

Being as how the LGBT community is just so damn hard to motivate to begin to work for their own rights, there just is no way a handful of queer DUers could work alone to research etc.

The last thing we need is for the repukes to begin telling us we are a party full of bigots. Sorry they carry that title and we don't want it.

And yes, I know you stand with us, my friend. I have seen you many times in the past come to our defence, and I for one say thank you, for all you have done, and continue to do.

[cincinnati_liberal]

3. Amen

You know, this world/country/universe/prime material plane could use a few more people, gay or straight, with the vehement fire you seem to embody. The real point underlying all this mess comes down to a fairly simple concept: Ever since the dawn of history people have loved telling other people how to live their life. That is the fundamental difference I see between liberals and conservatives. These Jesus freaks are so self-righteous they think they are vindicated by god in telling other people how to live their lives. The problem with the people intelligent enough to realize this is thatt they are usually too civilized or passive to stand up and fight. That's why liberals have been getting trampled on for so long. We need a new generation of pissed off neo-libs willing to scream at the top of their lungs and fight for their rights. As a straight person with gay friends, I've experienced first hand that homosexuality is usually never, if at all, a choice. So if 'god' made people that way, trying to change them is like saying 'god' made a mistake. Bible tumpers will never learn when to mind their own business because they think the world is their canvas and Jesus is their finger paint. I say napalm them all.

[Chipper Chat]

5. Jerry Falwell was on Hardball tonight....

He said homosexuality is definitely a choice. Matthews quipped "So when did you decide to be hetero, ."
Falwell was stunned - he couldn't answer - then blurted out something like "it just came natural." BUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[foreigncorrespondent]

12. Did he really say that?

Do you have a link to a transcript? If you do, could you please post it? That is something I would love to see.

[Chipper Chat]

22. No I dont

I was on the computer in another room - so I didnt see it - just heard it. I was surprised Matthews was that bold (and perceptive!). Maybe someone else has the link or visit the MSNBC homepage for the story.
I cant believe Falwell still regurgitates the same garbage he's been saying for the last 30 years - ugh - he's been lurking in my sphere of knowledge forever - wish I could exorcise him!

[Swamp Rat]

8. Whoa! I understand your passion but...

"We need a new generation of pissed off neo-libs" - We already have "neoliberals." Ronald Reagan was one.

"I say napalm them all." - Just like our military is doing to Iraqis?

[foreigncorrespondent]

9. Good catch SR!

I had been away from computer for a bit having dinner, so haven't had the chance to respond to any replies yet.

That response does seem a little strange don't you think? (Note: not your response, but the one you are responding to.)

[Swamp Rat]

17. Yep

Strange indeed.

[Chipper Chat]

4. I want to hear Ahhhnold....

call Dreier a gurlie-man.

[The Traveler]

6. Come home NOW!!!

You simply rock. I've read many of your posts, so this is not a comment based merely on the above call to action. My position is you are needed here.

But if you cannot come back ... save a place out there for the rest of us. We may need it, bud.

[foreigncorrespondent]

13. I would love to, but I have a slight problem!

That problem is, I wasn't born in the U.S. I am an Australian born and bred.

I spent a lot of time in the U.S. several years ago. In fact I met my partner while I was on a visit in the U.S.

I was there for 9/11. I cried with you all. I shook with you. I was just as scared as all of you. When those towers crumbled I to wept for what once was.

For the time I lived with my partner the U.S. became my home. That home was harshly taken from me the day my partner and I received a letter from the (then) INS telling us that my visa extension hadn't been approved and I had to get myself out of the country ASAP, because I had overstayed my welcome. That was January of 2002. I haven't been back to the U.S. since.

The United States is the ONLY English speaking industrialized nation left that does now allow their gay and lesbian citizens to sponsor foreign born partners for immigration. That my friend, is the ONLY reason, I am unable to return. If I could, you guys would have another sure fire Democratic voter, because I would become a citizen once I was able to.

[The Traveler]

14. The only words appropriate

are totally unprintable. The injustice of your situation sickens me.

But it does not surprise me. I have seen too many gay and lesbian friends take way too much shit over the years ... but they have also shown me the meaning of grace under pressure.

Your situation is unacceptable to me. That kind of situation is unacceptable to me. I promise to continue fighting for justice in this kind of matter, though I am but a small person and probably will have little measureable impact. But ... despite all the sadness and despair here this month, I know I am not alone in this. Many here and elsewhere in America will wail, gnash our teeth rend our robes for a while ... but we Democrats are not ready to surrender.

[foreigncorrespondent]

16. And ya kow what?

I might be Australian, but us Aussies never surrender either. I will stand right beside all my Democratic brothers and sisters.

I will do what ever I can. These rethug idiots aren't about to knock me down. After living almost three years apart from my partner through all the hurdles we have faced, we are still standing. I am prepared to do what ever it takes to make sure every gay or lesbian citizen of the United States has full equality under the law.

[The Traveler]

19. Between all the minds here

there's gotta be a way to find the loophole. You know there has gotta be a loophole.

[foreigncorrespondent]

20. All it takes...

...is for us to begin working on a list of names and then taking that list and researching out the history of the person. DU is most famous for the researchers we have here. :)

Believe me, if someone is queer and hiding it, there will always be someone in the community who knows the truth about that person.

[The Traveler]

21. Aussies aren't known for running from a fight

I agree with ya ... take it to the hypocritical bastards. I will help in any way I can.

[hinachan]

7. Let's apply some Coulter-esque hateful invective to these hypocrites:

Refaglicans
Gay Old Pigs
Grand Old Proctophiles
Queerservatives
Fagservatives
Neo-fags

Anybody care to add to the list? Let's take their shit and hurl it right back into their ugly faces!
:evilgrin:

[readmoreoften]

15. How about self-loathing hypocrites?

[foreigncorrespondent]

18. I like that better...

...than dropping the f-bomb into every name for them.

The f-bomb still rubs me the wrong way. As it does my LGBT brothers and sisters.

[tedzbear]

23. But isn't "queer" the new politically correct term for us now?

Ever since Queer Nation turned the slur word inside out, I have been identifying myself as a queer man. "Hi, I'm Ted and I'm queer." Actually it makes more sense then saying I'm gay. I'm not always THAT happy (especially when I'm in the presence of bigoted Repugs).

:bounce:

[foreigncorrespondent]

24. Well not really!

I use the word queer all the time, but it doesn't rub me the wrong way. But I do know of many DUers, who hate the word queer, because of previous slanderous meanings the word had.

"Fag" on the other hand, still rubs the majority of us the wrong way.

[apple_ridge]

29. Neocornholers?

[realFedUp]

26. At the least Dreier's voters should be informed

it is our tax dollars funding his and
his partner's fun.

Who needs media when you have flyers.

[foreigncorrespondent]

28. Good idea!

We need to organize some fliers and then to have them distributed.

This has got to get out, because the media and his own party has let this continue to be swept under the carpet for years, while he worked towards having rights removed for the rest of the LGBT community.

[AlinPA]

30. I have strong feelings about this "outing" stuff. Live and let live!

What the hell business is it of ours what other people do? Let them alone to live their lives. I have all kinds of friends and nobody in our circle of society ever mentions what their life styles are. Who the hell cares if people are gay or straight or unknown? What the hell kind of world is this anymore? Sorry, just had to dump it.

[foreigncorrespondent]

37. It becomes our business...

...when they hide their sexuality from the public, all the while endorsing countless poliical bills which discriminate and remove rights from people with the exact same sexuality.

I used to think like you too, but damn it, I am one of the gay people who suffer at the hands of these assholes every damn day, and I am not even American.

These lawmakers don't give a shit about rights for queers, because they themselves don't need it. They are the law and what everthey need they have.

[CoronaMasFina]

31. I'm surprised

I'm surprised to read this. To me, it smacks of going on a witch-hunt against people who don't share our politics. I have a very close relative who is gay, and a Republican, and I would be mighty ticked off (and embarrassed) if some band of people went on a mission to out him. He outed himself when he was ready, and that's how it should be. If it had been done by a group of Democrats, I think I would switch parties over it.

I think this plan is a mean-spirited one, and one that will have the Freepers chattering. It is a disservice to our party in my opinion.

No, we don't have gay marriage here in the U.S. yet, but does Australia? If so, why can't your American partner move there so you can be together? Also, have you considered trying to immigrate here not based on marriage? I hope things work out for you and your partner, but I really and truly don't think this is the right way to go about it.

[Duncan Grant]

36. Just my 2 cents...

If a RepubliCON advocates for the discrimination and disenfranchisement of me and others like me -- they should be outed.

If as gay men, they profit financially, politically, or socially from the homophobic policies of the right wing/RepubliCON party -- they should be outed.

If they feel entitled to abuse their power while performing public service (Dreier's junkets all over the planet with his "chief of staff" wink, wink) -- they should be outed.

If after all that I (and others like me) have been through in the war for equality, these dirtbags feel unjustly outed -- well, tough shit.

btw, I couldn't care less what the freepers are chattering about - why should you? :grr: :nuke: :grr:

[foreigncorrespondent]

39. And...

...a jolly good 2 cents worth it was. :loveya:

[foreigncorrespondent]

38. No one here is talking about your mate!

No one cares about your mate apart from you. Our interest lies with the repuke scum who are closeted queers and work towards endorsing bills which will REMOVE rights from all queer citizens. They are the law, so it doesn't matter what they pass, because they still having fucking access to everything.

If my partner was in government she would have got me a fucking green card years ago.

What is mean spirited is these self hating homo thugs having the easy life at the expense of the rest of us. And THAT goes for your gay republican mate too. He also misses out.

[Carl Brennan]

32. Paedophile Repug gets award

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For a second time, pedophile is nominated for national Republican award
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07/16/2003
By Craig Civale, 13News
The National Republican Congressional Committee has honored a Suffolk man as one of the top businessmen in the country.
Suffolk police photo Mark Grethen of Suffolk is in prison for sex crimes against children. But Mark Grethen couldn't accept the award in person. He's in prison - behind bars for sex crimes against children.
But that shouldn’t have been news to the NRCC. It nominated him in 2002 as one of the top 500 “Republicans of the Year.” A month later, it rescinded the honor after learning of his criminal past.
Now, the NRCC's had to take back the honor again.
Grethen is serving a 20-year sentence at Powhatan Correctional Center. He pleaded guilty and was sentenced in 2001 to forcible sodomy, aggravated sexual battery and indecent liberties with a child in 1997.
Charlie Hatfield, 13News The Suffolk Circuit Court Web site has a full page of charges brought against Mark Grethen. There were more charges, but many weren't pursued because of his guilty plea.
The G.O.P. Business Advisory Committee calls it a software glitch. A spokesman told 13News someone forgot to take Grethen's name out of the computer.
"Clearly it was a mistake. He should not have been given an award," said Carl Forti, an NRCC spokesman.

[Thtwudbeme]

33. Right there with ya!!!

But, you knew I would be!

Hey, go post in my Gays and The Bible thumping thread! I am going to be one bitching minister!

Stephanie

[foreigncorrespondent]

41. Of course I knew...

...you would be right here. :)

[Carl Brennan]

34. Paedophile Repug Mayor nailed

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forum_archive_html/DCForumID12/1345.html
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BRIDGEPORT, Conn. (AP) - A judge refused again Thursday to release Waterbury Mayor Philip Giordano on bond while he awaits trial on federal charges involving sex with minors.
U.S. District Judge Alan Nevas ruled Giordano was both a flight risk and a danger to the community.
Giordano has been jailed since his July 26 arrest. He pleaded innocent in September to a 14-count indictment charging him with violating the civil rights of two children under age 12 by forcing them to engage in sexual acts with him. He also faces state charges.
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[Carl Brennan]

35. Ted Nugent "Whackmaster" a pedophile?

Ted Nugent a pedophile??? http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1149492

[Dem2theMax]

40. foreigncorrespondent, have you ever been to the website 'Americablob.org?'

The owner of the site, John Aravosis, has been outing repubs for quite a while now. I would highly recommend going to his site and getting to know him and the work he does. His blog moves fast so you'll probably have to hit the archive pages to see more of what he does. (The archives are located a short way down the page on the left).

As for me personally, you have my total support. :)

http://americablog.org/

[Garbo 2004]

42. Blogactive is a site that's been involved in outing Republicans

http://www.blogactive.com/

Dreier, Gurley and others.

[foreigncorrespondent]

43. Thanks for the link!

I will save it and check it out tomorrow. It is come up to 1am for me, and I have had a busy Saturday with work, so I need to hit it shortly.