Nuke the Muslims...

[Bigmack]

Holy Shiite! Having the Repubs in charge has truly encouraged these people to stop taking their meds!
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WORLD NET DAILY

A threat to vaporize 100 Muslim cities

By David C. Atkins © 2004 WorldNetDaily.com December 4, 2004

Short snip...whole story at: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41771

In the event of a WMD attack by terrorists on the U.S. homeland or U.S. military facilities overseas, the U.S will immediately and without discussion use its immense nuclear weapons capabilities to destroy the 100 largest Islamic cities on earth, regardless of state, and destroy all of the military facilities of Islamic-dominated states. This will include all of the capitals and at least the 10 largest cities of all Islamic-dominated states and the "holy" cities of Mecca and Medina. In addition, North Korean cities and military installations will be destroyed.

If you don't want your cities on the target list, you have to earn your way off the list. Give us the head of bin Laden on a stick, and you may get a pass. Shut down your nuclear programs in an open and verifiable way, and you can earn your way off the target list.

Another advantage of this doctrine is that it doesn't cost a nickel. We have the necessary weapons and delivery systems in place..

Of course, the hand wringers, peaceniks and leftist elites would shout and scream bloody murder about how aggressive, unfair and politically incorrect this doctrine appears. However, I believe it would accomplish the same thing as MAD – namely, the successful deterrence of nuclear holocaust. All we need is the will to declare it.

David C. Atkins is president of ASA Solutions.

[GRLMGC]

1. Whoa

What the hell is wrong w/ people?

[SammyWinstonJack]

24. The $64.000 question

Stop the World, I want to get off. :-(

[immoderate]

37. I think Detroit falls in there somewhere.

--IMM

[da_chimperor]

43. That's insanity, written by a fucking idiot.

I'd say this guy is talking out of his ass. The way it's written, the arguments he uses, everything. He's a moron, but given the source I'm not surprised. Typical freeper warmongering, acting big and bad with no idea what you're proposing would actually do. This is the best possible way to get the rest of the world to embargo our ass. He seems to think that the rest of the world needs America. They don't. They can do without us. My guess is that a number of major US businesses with a majority of overseas operations would actually leave America if we did something like this. He says that we would be upset because we think that it would be "aggressive, unfair and politically incorrect". Fuck him. It's tantamount to genocide and would be the greatest imaginable war crime. The problem with freedom of speech is you get morons advocating threats of mass-murder. :grr:

[ixat]

58. Brilliant plan, what can I say. I mean, what's the difference

between a country and a religion? If you can threaten one, you can threaten the other in the same way!

Hooray for fuckheads!

[Beam Me Up]

2. I've been saying this for some time now.

They want the 'freedom' to use tactical nuclear weapons. They've been setting up the back story for this; saying that bin Laden has a fatway (religious permission) to use nukes against US. They are going to create another 9/11 only hundreds of time worse. Imagine half a million dead! And they are going to blame it on the muslims so they will have complete 'permission' from the people to nuke at will.

This is how insane the world we are in has become.

May God have mercy upon us.

[shadowknows69]

54. maybe the matrix isn't so bad

I'm ready to plug into a video game for the next 50 years, let the machines have it all. We're not worthy.

[Forkboy]

3. That's why I'm out of work

I was working as a screenprinter when 9/11 happened and people wanted shirts saying Nuke Afghanistan.I wouldn't do it...my boss called me un-American.I told him to go fuck himself.That was that :)

[msgadget]

5. A high price to pay for a differing opinion!

[Forkboy]

10. Totally worth it

At least I can put my head on my pillow at night :)

[drdon326]

16. WOW....

Thats quite a story.......not many people would tell their boss to
fuck off.

on edit.....i am in shock.....you sacrificed employment...for a tee-shirt. I'm with ya buddy.

[Solly Mack]

18. Bravo!

Because it does matter....it does make a difference.

[drdon326]

19. Damn right.

thats why i really love forkboy.

[Forkboy]

46. Does this thread and the concept of nuking Muslims "arouse" you Doc?

Funny how this thread is the only time you came up from trolling I/P.

[truth2power]

31. I have the greatest respect for what you did, Forkboy!

You walked the talk. In this insane world there are some levels to which one cannot stoop. :thumbsup:

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[Spiffarino]

47. Allow me to worship you, just for a minute

Seriously, that's awesome. It's people who do things like that who really make a difference. I'm afraid too few of us have the guts any more, and I'm probably just as guilty.

[Forkboy]

50. Please do not

Nothing about me is even close to being worth worshipping.I'd like to think that are a lot of people out there who would do the same thing,and there's a ton who do bigger and more important things everyday.They deserve the kudos far more than I do.

But thank you for the kind words.

[drdon326]

51. Forkboy....

can I worship you???

Youre like the Clint Eastwood of du.:loveya:lol

[Forkboy]

53. You seem genuinely bothered Don

You can't seem to let this go.

Better to be the Eastwood than the PeeWee Herman :shrug:

[nolabels]

55. I salute you and your efforts forkboy

I have dumped quite a few jobs just because the owner or supervisor was an immoral asshole (them are the fun times I look back to in my life :-) ).

The terrible thing is some people in their jobs are several layers removed from them type of people who would sell their soul for a measly small material gains. These people in their employment who are blind to what and who they are working for and don't know what they are really into.

Learning the lessons in life is a painful process sometimes but it is better than being a mental midget afraid of ones own shadow.

Gotta Serve Somebody Lyrics
Artist: Bob Dylan

You may be an ambassador to England or France,
You may like to gamble, you might like to dance,
You may be the heavyweight champion of the world,
You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

You might be a rock 'n' roll addict prancing on the stage,
You might have drugs at your command, women in a cage,
You may be a business man or some high degree thief,
They may call you Doctor or they may call you Chief

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
(snip)

http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/serve.html

[msgadget]

4. Gee,

this part sounds like where we're heading right now:

>Our wealth would be dramatically reduced, and the economy would be in chaos for at least a generation. The American way of life would be dramatically altered, perhaps permanently.<

[DireStrike]

6. Nuke the whales!

Gotta nuke something.

[TransitJohn]

12. Nuke

a gay Iraqi whale (or baby seal) for Jesus. Who would Jesus nuke?

[Guaranteed]

7. Yeah, that's going to work on people who are willing to kill

themselves in order to take out a couple of our soldiers.

[Erika]

8. These people might ask "What would Jesus Think"

It amuses, sickens, and enlightens me to realize that so many Bushies simply have no critical thinking skills or realization of the modern world. A few Muslim extremists do not represent Muslim beliefs or thoughts any more than McVey represented American or Christian beliefs.

Jesus must be shedding tears tonight at his dream of do unto others what you would have them do unto you.

[uhhuh]

9. This would ensure the destruction of the U.S.

Individual countries cannot ensure that independent agents will not attack the U.S. or U.S. interests. If the U.S. adopted this strategy, we would almost immediately be sanctioned across the board by most nations because they would ALL be affected by the resultant radiation from 100 high yield nuclear weapons going off in nearby countries. Hell, we would probably be hit by fallout here too.

Most countries would not stand for the economic and environmental damage that would be threatened by this kind of posture, and I imagine Saudi Arabia would immediately cease selling us oil, as well as most other OPEC nations, if this was actually implemented.

This guy comparing this to the doctrine of MAD is foolish. It will either be viewed as a bluff and nothing would be accomplished, or it would be taken seriously and WE would be the only ones who suffer.
This threat would have the absoulute opposite reaction that the author proposes.
We would be economically sanctioned and isolated to such an extent that terrorists wouldn't have to do anything.
If this idiocy was ever acted on, it would end the U.S. economy within a year.


This guy,David C. Atkins, president of ASA Solutions, is a RW moron

ASA must stand for ALWAYS STUPID ASS Solutions.

[Erika]

11. Bushies Don't Understand Economics

They don't realize that the Bush administration has sold us out to other countries through our debt. Other countries can call in their debts and we would fall on our faces.

The Bushies still think we are the golden boys holding all the cards.
They are on a power kick to the nth degree. No reality. Their world no longer exists and they don't know it.

[natrat]

13. drunk with power

if a lihop/mihop event occurred and it came to diplomatic crunch time no world leader would trust the neocon theofascists and a bad situation would begin the end. Like that douchebag Condi could manage a crisis.

[0rganism]

14. Our good friends the Saudis won't be too happy with that....

...not to mention all those corporations who've invested heavily in Indonesian manufacturing. Betcha three or four of those "largest cities" are in Indonesia.

Heck, even the Israelis will be pissed off, being the new "downwinders" of the Middle East. They might just nuke us back to stop us from doing it ever again.

What kind of stupid-ass solution is this, Mr. ASA Solutions? Remind me never to buy stock in your company.

Here's their website: http://www.asasolutions.com/

For a company claiming to contract scripting experts, their web content sure does 5Ux0r. No wonder the CEO exhibits bladder hostility.

[Erika]

15. I just sent them an email

Thanks for the address.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

23. Should be named...

ASS solutions.

[SweetLeftFoot]

34. Yeah

The biggest Muslims cities are contained in nations allied to the US - Indonesia, Turkey, Pakistan, Egypt and Saudi.

Tehran is the only major Islamic city not in a nation allied to to the US.

Of course Mr. "I'm A Freakin' Nutbar Who Causes Otherwise Lovely American Kids To Pretend They Are Canadian When They Travel" doesn't realise that nuking Jakarta would also piss of us Aussies who not only live 200 miles from Indonesia, but rely on their waterways for our trade with Japan and China.

These people need to be taken to Belfast and given a quick lesson in the basis of conflict resolution.

[charlie]

17. So Mr Atkins would put the fate

of billions into the hands of cliques of non-state actors. So, what if Islamic nations did get onboard with his "fly straight" program and in spite of their best efforts, we get hit again? Bye-bye IndoChina, MidEast, and Korea, hello World Wars III, IV, and V. Think Russia will stand by while we lob missiles around their perimeter? Or China? India?

We can't even keep our homegrown terrorists on a leash. Atkins needs to keep his jerkoff material in the bathroom where it belongs.

[Zenlitened]

20. "... put the fate of billions into the hands of... non-state actors."

Interesting point. Atkins' statement actually does the OPPOSITE of deterring terrorists. It EMBOLDENS them, telling them that they have the power to unleash calamity on a global scale, all with one detonation.

Scary. :scared:

[0rganism]

21. Yes, and it gives anti-muslim zealots incentive to commit terrorism

If some crazy fucker from a White Power movement could ensure the destruction of the 100 largest muslim cities by detonating a large bomb in a minority district of a large American city, how long would they hesitate? 10 seconds? 5?

[Telly Savalas]

22. This is just an irrelevant jerkoff from Worldnetdaily

It's the job of people like this to remain completely out of touch with reality. I'd put more faith in the Weekly World News than anything on Worldnetdaily.

If somebody at a slightly more respectable conservative publication like the National Review or a place like Townhall.com were to be writing shit like this then I'd get nervous. (Unless they got fired like Ann Coulter, that is.)

If someone like Rumsfeld or Rice starts saying shit like this however, then it's time to start work on the backyard bomb shelter.

[erniesam]

25. other "irrelevent jerk-offs" Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Paul Wyerich,

Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly

[Telly Savalas]

36. Do any off these jackasses come remotely close...

to having any say in the course of our foreign policy? Most certainly not. So yes, they too are "irrelevant jerkoffs". The people who actually dictate policy already have an idiotic agenda we need to fight. We don't need to get sidetracked worrying about some media whore thumping his chest to get better ratings/book sales/etc. Anybody stupid enough to take folks like Hannity, Limbaugh, Robertson, or WorldNetDaily seriously is a lost cause, so worrying about their rhetoric is a waste of time.

[erniesam]

41. the rhetoric of the "irrelevant" is the foundation of Dominionist and

Neocon ideology. In the 1920's many German's dismissed Hitler's "Mein Kampf" as the rhetoric of an "irrelevant jerk off." Look what it got them.

[gottaB]

57. How about Franklin Graham?

He seems like kind of bigot to me. He definitely has a very limited view of the world, and he has Bush's ear.

Kirbyjon Caldwell seems harmless enough--until you think about it.

I don't believe militant Christian fundamentalists like Robertson are very far at all from Bush's circle. And why are secular loudmouths so gungho about this President? I believe there's something to it besides partisanship or self-interest. It's a particular kind of jingoism, which, properly exploited, allows excessive powers to be vested in the executive branch. It is insidious, and worthy of criticism and opposition.

[NNguyenMD]

26. somehow repubs confuse "world standoff" with "world peace" as if they're

content with sleeping at night eyes open, with their rifles ready in their lap, and pistol under their pillow.

[MirrorAshes]

48. well put n/t

[Gyre]

27. If the US does that in response to "that", with no other evidence

and the freepers can expect CIVIL WAR.

Gyre

[NNguyenMD]

28. it really does feel like a civil war is brewing the way we're so divided.

Thanks alot president Bush for throwing us back to 1860!

[ck4829]

29. "100 largest Islamic cities, regardless of state"?

What if there was a city here in America that made that list?

Idiotic Bigot. This man has become the new Osama bin Laden.

[NuttyFluffers]

32. considering terms of population we'd definitely will have US cities on.

100 largest islamic cities, regardless of state... that'd include paris, new york (poor new york), and london. they all have huge muslim populations. and after a while, 100 cities being a long list, those major cities would end up on it.

hmm, let's see, nuking at least 2 allies who have nuclear weapons, not to mention any chinese or russian or indian cities with big islamic populations, would initiate total nuclear annihilation. woo hoo, great plan there! showed them. "they blew up a city, we sent our sorry ass back to the stone age, we win! right? um... anybody? yes? ... oh dear. i'm all alone now."

so now they want us to be an extortionist state utilising terrorism. hmm, sounds like a moral platform they got there.

[Mike Niendorff]

30. gee, with a plan like that, what could go wrong?

I'm sure the whole world will welcome them with flowers, just like Iraq did.


MDN

[NickB79]

33. Mr. Atkins, one word for you to consider

OIL. Nuking any countries in the Middle East or Southeast Asia would utterly and completely destroy our oil supply, meaning the end of our economy as we know it. On top of the widespread civil unrest and likely civil war here in the US as our economy collapses into the Second Great Depression, our air, water and food would be contaminated by radioactive fallout blowing on the winds. The resultant dust thrown into the atmosphere could even alter our weather patterns for a few years, reducing crop yields.

In the long run, the rest of the world, including the Muslim countries, would probably survive to rebuild. The United States, on the other hand, almost assuredly would not, at least not in it's current form.

[Stephanjnj]

35. Life is cheap

So the ultimate solution for better neocon living would be the retaliatory killing of untold millions of innocents in far off lands. Dresden was just a warm-up. Just make sure the 10 Commandments ("Thou Shalt not Kill" etc.) are posted ubiquitously at every school and courthouse across the land. Once we have taken the "moral high ground", anything is possible!

[Deja Q]

38. Nuke them there, oil becomes useless and Muslims here will respond

Well, maybe they'll find a way to collect that oil, but to bomb the ENTIRE middle east? That will have serious repercussions on the planet's ecosystem.

Not to mention how Europe would respond.

[neebob]

39. You should have included the paragraph above the first one you snipped

that says, "I propose that the U.S. immediately adopt and publish the following nuclear doctrine."

Make it a little more obvious that it's just some nut proposing a MAD revival. As if the nuclear destruction of 100 cities isn't a holocaust. :)

[AmandaRuth]

40. not only this wack job

but whenever I listen to any discussion involving the war on the radio nuking always come up. ALWAYS, and not just on the far right "fair and balanced" hate radio stations either. Here in the pnw, many nut cases have called KIRO (a middle of the road news, weather and traffic station), and just demanded to nuke Fallujah.

These are scary times indeed, when far right ideas (nuking, theological nation, privatizing social security, no environmental protections) are no longer laughed at but given legitimacy, and looked at as a serious option. :scared: :scared:

[The Minus World]

44. Kill or be Killed.

Wonderful! It's settled: Let's condemn millions to death for the actions of a decentralized network of extremists.

M.A.D. (Mutually Assured Destruction) dealt with the generalized threat of a worldwide nuclear holocaust; this fool's solution has nothing to do with acknowledging the reality of M.A.D., save for telling the world the obvious: "We just might be crazy enough to start Armageddon."

Imagine if the rest of the world decided that they'd consolidate their destructive power to destroy a number of American cities in the event that America decides to invade another country under false pretenses. What would our response be? Whatever happened to pursuing a categorical imperative? Whatever happened to making judgments with cause-and-effect in mind? Why is this man allowed a public forum to spew such inanity?

I suppose I'm just "wringing my hands" about the future of mankind, though.

[OutsourceBush]

49. worlnetdaily=another of many Rev Moon front orgs

[Soth]

52. I feel like there's something in the Bible about this...

Something about "What if you find just 10 righteous people in that city?" and God saying "Well, then, for the sake of the ten, I wouldn't destroy it."

But since when have righties really cared about what God and the Bible actually say? Republicans are BIGGER THAN GOD, after all!

[AnIndependentTexan]

56. they not only believe in the end of the world

but seem to be trying to create it as well. Really scary

[shadowknows69]

59. say cheese Jesus

I just hope someone snaps a picture of a fundie and the look on his/her face when they realize that maybe they aren't going to be spirited away in the rapture before the first nuke falls. Hopefully the photograph will end up in an alien museum someday under the heading "The folly of religious extremism"