Fundie thinks the Bush Administration is too liberal...

[distantearlywarning]

http://www.newswithviews.com/Ohara/debbie33.htm

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"To those Christians who voted to give President Bush and his fellow leftists - ahem - "conservatives" another term, I ask, were they seeking the Shepherd or were they just following the flock? As a nation, we must prayerfully seek guidance daily for President Bush and for our other leaders. But surely we must wonder how far "left" the "Christian Right" has strayed when they choose for themselves such ungodly leaders?"

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"It's interesting to note that President Bush says he owes his "conversion" to the Reverend Billy Graham. While Graham, often known as "America's pastor", is probably one of the best-loved individuals of the 20th century, you might be surprised at some of his statements. On Larry King Live in December 1994, Graham stated that "homosexuals are born that way and that it's in their genes."<1> This statement of course is false because homosexuals cannot reproduce and therefore cannot pass on their genes to the next generation. Unfortunately by his statement, Graham leaves the thought open to millions of his followers that homosexuals are not responsible for their lifestyles. If Graham is responsible for Bush's "conversion", perhaps this is why Bush along with many other Americans accept "civil unions" (virtual marriage) for homosexuals. This of course contradicts the Word of God."

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I included the last paragraph because I thought it was so funny: Homosexuals can't reproduce and therefore can't pass their genes on to the next generation? Wow, that's news to me! All those lesbians who have children by surrogate dads - they are clearly reproducing and which genes are they passing down if not their own? I guess this is what you get when you teach creationism in science class instead of biology... :crazy:

These people scare me.

[louis-t]

1. They really think homosexuality is inherited?

That's rich. So then it follows that if the fundie crazy right decides to sterilize all homosexuals, their thinking would be that they can wipe out the evil sin? These people are sick.

[ixat]

2. Made me think of the old joke, "childlessness runs in my family."

[PatriotGames]

3. These people are truly dangerous. If they had their way...

there would be mass sterilizations and camps for homosexuals.

[bvar22]

8. not to mention intellectuals and liberals.

[chicagiana]

4. Recessive genes and formative processes ...

Well, if there is a gay gene, it could still be passed on without reproduction. Some genes are simply recessive so a straight person could pass on a "gay" gene.

Many gays DO reproduce because society imposes gender roles on them. Thats why you have 50 year old family men who "come out" after their kids our out of college. Their wives responses are typically .... FINALLY!!!!

Also, some studies suggest that homosexuality in men could be a formative process. As we all know, animals are inherintly female unless changed during formation. During gestation, the testicles of a male child start producing testosterone. Since women/fetus are symbiotic, the woman gets those hormones. Well the women's system apparantly fights back.

Those studies have shown that the more older brothers a boy has, the more likely it is that he will come out gay. The idea is that the women develops a "tolerance" for the testosterone with each successive male child. The homosexual male child has the "equipment" but the testosterone necessary to make certain "brain changes" is not present in sufficient quantities.

Ergo, you get a male child with a female brain. Ergo, you have the stereotype of the "effeminate" man.

In this case, passing genes on is moot because because it is a formative process, not a genetic one.

[RPM]

5. thank you....

I sucked in biology and still figure that one out.

I hate these ignorant fux.

[chicagiana]

6. Found an intersting article ...

It would be a hoot if you could get fundies to ban steroids in cattle because it was increasing the risk of homosexual children ;-)

http://www.neoteny.org/a/homosexuality.html

[Contrary1]

7. Not to mention that

Reverend Billy Graham recently denied resposibility
for the Shrub's alleged conversion.

[bvar22]

10. B Graham also admittted he was a Democrat.

http://www.time.com/time/time100/heroes/profile/graham01.html

[Occulus]

9. Unbelieveable ignorance.

"This statement of course is false because homosexuals cannot reproduce and therefore cannot pass on their genes to the next generation."

Apparently, this person has never seen a biological child of a couple whose hair color is completely different. They're called recessive genes.

The one single greatest fear of the fundie "right" is the idea that homosexuality might be an inborn recessive genetic trait. Maybe it's a specific combination and expression of a specific set of genes. Maybe there's a genetic combination that only encourages homosexuality, only makes it more likely. Maybe there's a set of genes which, when exposed to increased levels of growth or fertility hormones in the womb of the mother, triggers what we call "homosexualtiy". The one thing we do know is people who are homosexual haven't chosen to be that way.

As for the statement itself, I know personally gay men who do have kids- my partner, for one, has a little girl. That utterly foolish statement simply does not enter reality.

[CornField]

11. Homosexual comments aside

* is definitely not a conservative. He's never met a spending bill he didn't like. (Seriously, he has yet to veto any spending bill.)

I have some true conservative friends who are standing really still and wondering what the hell happened to their party.

[Lone Pawn]

12. I think they just endorsed evolution!

So mutations that are not beneficial to survival and reproduction get phased out, eh? I do believe you just endorsed darwinian evolution, love.