"it doesn't matter if it had alcohol in it or not"

[Must_B_Free]

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-school-jell-o-shots,0,124747,print.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines

"The gelatin was turned over to the sheriff's department for testing to see if it contained alcohol.

The girl was suspended for violating school rules against possessing or trying to distribute a "lookalike," or something that appears to contain drugs or alcohol.

Under the lookalike rule, the girl's suspension will stand no matter what the sheriff's department finds.

"The school system's position is, it doesn't matter if it had alcohol in it or not," Nowakowski said.

The names of the girl and her mother were not released.

The mother must also allow school officials to test her daughter's hair for signs of drug use, Nowakowski said."

Excuse me?

In Hawaii, they sell these little jello cups in supermarkets. Does that make them "lookalikes" too? Doesn't my coke look like a rum and coke?

[JVS]

1. It doesn't matter

Biggest reason: You are not allowed to sell stuff at school. Especially food items where there is a sanitary risk. This alone is enough to punish her.


Imagine your Rum and Coke problem in another manner. Suppose you were sitting there with a paper cup pouring a clear liquid (you know it's water but they don't) from a shot-glass into the cup and then adding coke, that would certainly be suspicious behavior and if they don't crack down on you for that, then it will be impossible for them to prevent other students from doing the same with real liquor.

[Jack_DeLeon]

8. wow thats pretty rediculous....

no capitalism in schools. :eyes:

why would selling things in school not be allowed? I've bought, sold, and traded goods inbetween classes and during lunch on occassion.

Also your whole "they need to crack down on suspecious behavor" is equally assinine.

[JVS]

10. My school forbade using school as a marketplace to conduct business

Where did you go to school?
and when?

[Jack_DeLeon]

12. In Texas...

:eyes: yeah I'm sure that will get a few jokes...

Yeah the public education wasnt great but I assume it never is. That being said I think most teachers and administrators have more important things to do other than hassling children about what they do with thier own belongings and thier money.

[JVS]

15. When?

Adminstrators of schools are completely within their rights to set and enforce rules to ensure that undesired situations don't arise.

Some of the rules of my school were:

Students are not to run a business in the school (because we were there to learn not work, and also because frequent commercial activity among students would create an environment where drug-dealing, extortion etc. would be more difficult to detect

Students are not allowed to carry any kind of medication over or under the counter unless it is cleared by the authorities (inhalers, emergency stuff would get cleared, but ordnary medication regiments were to be administered by the school nurse)

Students are not to prepare food for others (this was pre-HS, later we were considered more responsible) If there was going to be a birthday with cupcakes or something like that the food would be provided by the Home-room mothers (kid's parents) who were adults and therefore could be responsible for making sure the food was safe

[Jack_DeLeon]

17. Okay whatever...

if you dont mind your schools being run like prisons have whatever rules you want.

I'm just glad that when I went to school we didnt have such enforcement.

[JVS]

19. When did you go to school?

[Jack_DeLeon]

20. late 90s.

[JVS]

22. Can you tell me why the rules of my school were so unreasonable?

[Must_B_Free]

9. but we make cupcakes and give them to my son's class

so how is that not a sanitary risk?

Gee, I guess we had better not make brownies, they might "look like" pot brownies...

Same logic.

[JVS]

11. Strawman

Parents who bring things are not the same as children who bring things. Adults are considered more responsible

[Must_B_Free]

13. False statement

recall the Georgia girls who brought the cake with bleach, clay and an expired prescription drug in the icing and served it to kids at their school as a "joke".

Noone kept them from doing that.

[JVS]

23. I do not recall, please tell me what happened

[Must_B_Free]

26. links

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/11/18/poisoned.cake/
http://www.accessnorthga.com/news/ap_newfullstory.asp?ID=49490

[JVS]

27. This seems to demonstrate why not allowing students to prepare food...

for the class is a good idea.

[Must_B_Free]

28. But they refute you point about not being able to do it.

it all depends on the locality.

[JVS]

30. WTF are you talking about?

Are you suggesting that making and enforcing rules is a bad idea because some jackasses in Georgia either didn't make or didn't enforce rules?

[Jack_DeLeon]

14. Hmmm I've seen some examples to counter that argument....

but how are the school officials to know who made said brownies, after all its the child that brings them.

[JVS]

18. 2 easy options, forbid bringing in treats, or require parents to bring...

them in and let them know that they are accountable for what they bring

[Warpy]

16. yeah, let them keep it in after shave bottles with food coloring

like they did when I was in junior high school.

This "no tolerance" garbage is for people who are too witless to figure out which rule was broken and what a just punishment should be.

Just more dumbing down of the school system, seems to be very effective, working on the administrators as well as the kid.

This is the kind of kid stuff that would have gotten me detention. Expelling kids for this garbage is nonsensical.

[JVS]

21. The rules are clearly stated, there is no reason to break them so why...

should there be pity for those who break them anyway. besides its a suspension, not an expulsion. Having rules does not equal zero tolerance

[Must_B_Free]

24. Where are those rules clearly stated?

gotta link?

Does it specifically cover Jello, but make an exclusion for Cupcakes and Brownies?

What about candy on Valentines day?

[JVS]

25. Schools generally state rules

If they are not clearly stated, then they should be.

We don't really know about this school, but would you feel it fair to say that if the students are issued a student conduct guide (as I was at my school), that such an action would be fair?

[Must_B_Free]

29. I got one, but it was a private school

actually I'm not even sure I remember it, but I do remember the one the school gave out to students in the 20s. It said "Do not associate with towns people, as they are crude and boorish".

[JVS]

31. In my public school we were issued rules at the beginning of each year...

and could always find a copy in the office if we wanted. It was clear what was and wasn't allowed

[NV Whino]

2. Jello shots? How have I missed this?

I can't believe that one could put alcohol in Jello and have it gel. What? a little lime Jello with your tequila? Weird.

on edit: a little salt around the edge your tequila-Jello?

[notadmblnd]

3. They're very popular here in Mi.

They even sell them in clubs. BTW.. they're pretty tasty to!

[LittleClarkie]

6. Yes, we have green and yellow ones on Packer Sunday

Tough as hell to eat without a spoon. Muh tongue just ain't long enough. I think Vodka is the general alcohol of choice in your average Jello shot.

Like Bill Cosby says, there's always room for jello.

[aquart]

5. Oh, my goodness. Yes.

Don't make beer jello, though. Trust me.

[politicat]

7. requires extra gelatin, IIRC.

But then again, to make proper Jello Jigglers (the cubes and shaped stuff) you have to use extra gelatin.

Pcat

[MissMarple]

4. OK, Arrest the Brownies. We know what that's all about!

And brownie makers, run for the hills.... Next, they will be arresting Betty Crocker and Duncan Hines.