Well it looks like Santa is the devil

[HootieMcBoob]

Will these fundamentalist nut jobs ever give up? Check out this insanity: http://www.av1611.org/othpubls/santa.html

. . .Santa

You ever noticed how easy it is to transform "Satan" from "Santa"? Just move the "n" to the end. And presto! "Satan" appears. . . Hmmm�.

An internet Google search on "Satan Claus" found over 1,700 hits! Obviously, there are many that tie the two together.

The rearranging of letters (called anagrams) to hide secret names or words has long been practiced in the occult. The Jewish Encyclopedia writes of the Jewish occult book called the Cabala:

"The golden age for anagrams began with the Cabala. The Platonists had strange notions as to the influence of anagrammatic virtues, particularly of anagrams evolved from names of persons. It is not surprising, therefore, that the cabalists, like all the Neoplatonists, pretended to discover occult qualities in proper names and in their anagrams."
(www.jewishencyclopedia.com)

One of the most well known anagram in the occult world is the name of Sanat Kumara. Sanat is better known as Satan. Constance Cumbey, writes in her best-selling, new-age expose, The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow, ". . . they freely call Sanat Kumara (Satan) 'God'. And their doctrinal reference books by Helena Petrovna Blavatsky and Alice Ann Bailey freely cross-reference Sanat Kumara with Venus. In occult writings, Lucifer and Venus are one and the same."
(Constance Cumbey, The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow, p. 138)

Texe Marrs writes of 'Sanat' in Dark Secrets of the New Age:

". . . the New Age offers a being called Sanat Kumara. 'Sanat' is obviously a thinly veiled reference to Satan; nevertheless, New Age teachers evidently believe that the new spelling will alleviate the concerns of those not yet ready to confess Satan as their Lord and Messiah."
(Texe Marrs, Dark Secrets of the New Age, pp. 79-80)

Interesting. . . Where does that put Lord S-A-N-T-A?

H.P. Blavatsky, the Satanist and new age teacher writes in The Secret Doctrine:

"many a mysterious sacred name. . . conveys to the profane ear no more than some ordinary, and often vulgar word, because it is concealed anagrammatically or otherwise".
(H.P. Blavatsky, The Secret Doctrine, Vol II, p. 78)

Like S-A-N-T-A?

This thing just goes on and on, and the whole site is filled with this stuff. Is this real?

[Connie_Corleone]

1. Rearrange the letters in God...

and you get Dog. So does that mean that God is a dog??

:shrug:

[Qanisqineq]

3. LOL Thanks for the laugh!

eom

[HootieMcBoob]

9. that's only one itsy bitsy part of their theory

look at the whole thing. It looks like something written by a paranoid schitzophrenic.

You know how the right-wing takes every left wing fringe thing and tries to use it to ridicule and demonize everyone to the left of...well basically everyone's who's not a republican? Well why don't we take advantage of the enormous amount of crazy shit that is out there.

If we can manage to hold this thing up as a typical fundamentalist christian way of thinking we could make some headway in convincing the majority of American's who like the idea of santa that the religious fundamentalist followers of the chimp are not the mainstream in this country.

They want to outlaw Santa!

[luaneryder]

17. My neice and nephew

are fundies and told their children when they were very small that Santa was evil and that anyone who said different was trying to make them go to hell. Nice way to grow up>

[ComerPerro]

30. exactly

[oneighty]

10. Yes. Everybody knows

dog is really god. Next time you need a friend see which one gets to you first.

IMHO

180..Dog lover

[indigolady]

19. My dog is an angel in a dog suit.

[Jurgis]

36. I think it was Booger...

in "Revenge of the Nerds" that said, "What if dog was really spelled C-A-T?"

And it you spell that backwards you get TAC.

Amazing. Praise the Lord.

[youthere]

41. Yes but my dog

is really Santa I mean Satan. But she's a dog..or God...Oh hell I'm confused.

[BiggJawn]

47. That would explain this sign I found...

and i thought i was being dyslexic..

[Patiod]

2. why do all these ignorant rants include "...hmmmm...."

I get right-wing crap all the time from relatives, and most of it includes hmmmmm

[WoodrowFan]

45. they think it makes them sound smart

Ever read the kids book about a mouse that made a toy motorcycle go by making "motorcycle noises" with his lips (bbbrrrrrrppppppppppp)? RWers think if they go "hmmmmmmmmm" it means they are thinking.

[DireStrike]

4. I wonder if they would buy into the analysis

of Bush as antichrist?

http://mirrors.meepzorp.com/geocities.com/george-bush-antichrist/

The Bible shows us a way to prove whether or not a person is the Antichrist, through numerology. Rev 13:18 says: "Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six." That is, the number 666.

The way biblical scholars and numerologists convert the names of men into numbers is through a simple numerical code. Let's assign the 26 letters of the alphabet the numbers 1 through 26. It looks like this:

a 1 i 9 q 17 y 25
b 2 j 10 r 18 z 26
c 3 k 11 s 19
d 4 l 12 t 20
e 5 m 13 u 21
f 6 n 14 v 22
g 7 o 15 w 23
h 8 p 16 x 24

Now if you add up the numbers of his name, George Walker Bush, according to the table above you get 7+5+15+18+7+5 for George, +23+1+12+11+5+18 for Walker, and +2+21+19+8 for Bush, which all adds up to a total of 177 = 1+7+7 = 15 = 1+5 = 6. That's our first six..

Mr. Bush was born July 6, 1946. So if you add up all the digits in his date of birth you get 7+6+1+9+4+6 = 33 = 3+3 = 6. There - now we have our second six.

The antichrist's first step in his goal of attaining complete world domination for Satan, was achieved on that fateful day Bush was first elected governor of Texas - his first elected office - on November 8, 1994. Again, just by adding up the digits we get 1+1+8+1+9+9+4 = 33 = 3+3 = 6. The third six.

update !! : After losing the popular vote on November 7, 2000, the antichrist will take his next giant leap towards ruling the earth when he is inaugurated president of the United States on January 20, 2001. 1+2+0+2+0+0+1 = 6. Another six to replace the one he had as Governor!!

So there you have it folks - 666 - the number of the Beast - beyond any shadow of a doubt now.

(Note: Ever wonder why George Herbert Walker Bush Sr. left the 'Herbert' out when naming his son? Was it a crafty way of dedicating his firstborn son to Satan? George = six letters, Walker = six letters, and BushJr (or 'Busche', which was the original German spelling of their name) = six letters. = 666. Once again, the number of the beast!)

Still not convinced? The chances of something like this ever happening randomly is estimated at 1 in 100,000,000,000, over 16 times the total human population. Still think it's just some fantastic coincidence? Well, there's an old saying "You know a man by the company he keeps......."

[Taxloss]

13. Making up dubious connections from vast sets of variables

is fun, and de-weeds your lawn! Here's how Moby Dick predicts assassinations:

http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/moby.html

[DireStrike]

15. Haha, yes I've read about that 'bible code' nonsense

People can be so funny. Until they control your life.

[indigolady]

20. That's interesting...but * does fit the fundamentalist definition of the

Anti- Christ. Someone who fools the believers.

He is so the opposite of Jesus!

[tanyev]

5. Could it be....

Satan?

[JHB]

6. Nah, Santa's in jail in Hungary...

Huey says so!









(That's just mean, Huey. Hillarious, but Mean!)

[FizzFuzz]

34. I don't think I've ever seen a reference to females that's NOT sexist

from MacGruder.

[sam sarrha]

7. I dont care, i just want SANTAN to bring me material wealth, Praise SANTAN

[DrWeird]

8. Wow, I never knew all those Catholic saints were in league with the Devil.

And the Spaniards.

[Philostopher]

12. That was my thought, too.

But apparently, this guy's religion not only tolerates ignorance -- he worships ignorance as his higher power. They say on the Internet nobody knows you're a dog -- apparently, it's a little harder to hide the fact that you're a knuckle-dragging moron with little cultural knowledge of anything more than five miles away from you or five years in your own past.

[Taxloss]

11. Um ... doesn't that rule out a lot of Spanish?

Santa Maria, Santiago, and so on. Santa Claus is just a corruption of Saint Nicolas, who died on a giant candy cane because we were naughty children. Or something.

[veggiemama]

14. I kinda hope the fundie nuts keep hammering that message home!

No Santa, no retail!

[liberal N proud]

16. If you go to the parent web page

Dial-the-Truth Ministries: http://www.av1611.org/

They have a 666 watch, Are they watching KKKarl Rove?

[Bridget Burke]

18. I kept looking for a link to Landover Baptist or The Onion.

Alas, none was found.

Actually, Santa Claus has some pagan roots (Odin on the Wild Hunt, for example). But nothing Satanic.

Psychosis. And methamphetamines? That's lots of typing at that site...

[indigobusiness]

27. Here...Here is *PROOF* from LBC

Is Santa Claus Really Satan in Disguise? Quite frankly, the answer is yes!



The Devil Is In Your Chimney!

Is Santa Claus, Satan? (A Special Report Concerning the Origin of Santa Claus)



Freehold, Iowa - Satan's evil plan has created jobs for hundreds of thousands of old lecherous pedophiles throughout this Godly country every December. These filthy homeless hobos just lay on their urine-stained cardboard beds 11 months out of the year, dreaming of Christmas when they can drunkenly traipse into the warmth of departments stores and have innocent little Christian children sit on their vermin-infested laps. Unwary parents happily snap pictures while Satan's obesely wheezing drunks ask their children whether they've been "bad" and whisper lewd suggestions in their angelic little ears with their filthy booze-breath and cigarette-discolored lips. How many unsuspecting tots have suffered a quick grope before Satan's little helper moves on to the next hopeful child in line?

snip

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1299/santy.html

[Mari333]

21. Same old crap every year. n/t

[IrateCitizen]

22. I remember when Dana Carvey's "Churchlady" did this on SNL...

It was good comedy then, it's still good comedy now.

[HootieMcBoob]

23. They want to take away Santa Claus!

The right wing wackos who elected George W. Bush want to take away Santa Claus! Tell everyone you know!

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

24. Don't let him learn about Linux.

In it, in order to make a file accessible for everybody you change its permissions to 666. :crazy:

[muriel_volestrangler]

28. If you haven't seen this yet - the godless communist Apple Mac conspiracy!

Google cache: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cache:hXP74Nx6mj4J:objective.jesussave.us/propaganda.html+%22Macs+are+based+on+Darwinism%22&hl=en

(main site down now - bandwidth problems? - at http://objective.jesussave.us/propaganda.html)

Spoof, but very good.

[Xithras]

32. You should have heard the BSD argument between my fundie boss and I

He saw the logo, assumed that it was written by devil worshippers, and banned it from the datacenter.


He calmed down once I explained it to him, but ended up banning it anyway because it was written by "godless communists and liberal Berkeley freaks". Luckily he was fired a few months later for sexually harassing one of his secretaries (so much for his "Christian morals").

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

39. It's hearing stories like this that make DU worth the loss of productivity

You brought a smile to this heathen face. :evilgrin:

[FizzFuzz]

33. I don't know what you're talking about, but I suspect this is funny!

:silly:
I'm computer illiterate, but I know humor when I see it!!

[TWiley]

25. Yes, and Barney the Purple whatchamacallit is homosexual.

It is real that people believe this shit. However, the shit they believe is not real. The irony is that they try so hard to be "Godly" that they wind up believing in magic.

"I did not stub my own toe due to my own lack of attention, I was deceived by a demon"

Do not try to find a rational explanation for irrational beliefs. It simply cannot be done.

[WoodrowFan]

46. it's true!

I stub my toe in the dark because of demons! Where do demons hide, in the dark!! hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[lukasahero]

26. "Lucifer and Venus are one and the same" - I finally get it!

Sorry to get off the Santa/Satan thread but...

Venus (Aphrodite) is the "Goddess of Love, Desire and Beauty", right? I'm starting to connect the fundie dots - I finally get why they are so afraid of/hate women. Woman (sex, lust, desire) = devil. It's all so much clearer to me now. :wtf:

[FizzFuzz]

35. and Jesus = Uranus !!!

BWAAA-HA-HA-HAHAHahahahahaha

[ComerPerro]

29. Start spreading it around: CONSERVATIVES WANT TO BAN SANTA

and all references to Santa Claus in all public and private places.

[HootieMcBoob]

31. EGG-Zactly!

Now we're getting it! :toast:

[TWiley]

49. WANNA-BIN-SANTA?

Isnt he on the terrorist list and wanted by the FBI?

[fob]

37. The golden age for anagrams began with the Cabala - It's not the first

Cabala you have to worry about it's the FIFTH Cabala, commonly known as Cabala V. Why is Cabala V MORE dangerous? Simple, if you rearrange the letters in Cabala V, you get Baclava! Everyone knows Baclava is just plain EEVIIL!!

IF you rearrange the letters in ELVIS you get LIVES, now tell me he "died" in 1977. Yeah, I thought not.

[prof_science]

38. Forget that Satan was once an angel...

or that "george bush" is "go hug beers."

(yes, that's the best I could do :( )

[davidinalameda]

40. these people are loons

pure and simple

reminds me of the Church Lady skit about Santa and Satan

[HootieMcBoob]

43. If they were the "loony left" they would be ridiculed all over TV

But they happen to be right wing fundamentalist wackos so we don't hear about them. What I'm saying here is why don't we take a page out of the right wing playbook. They use the fringe to demonize the left and Democrats in general.

Ridicule is a powerful weapon. The right-wing knows it and has been using it effectively for years. We need to point out to Americans how crazy the right-wing fundamentalists who voted Bush into office are. Most Americans are very fond of Santa Claus.

[NoSheep]

42. Help us all. n/t

[Shakespeare]

44. This reminds me of Kathy Bates' character in The Waterboy

Everything, and I mean everything, that she felt threatened by or didn't like (sound familiar?) was "THE DEBBIL!"

[Maestro]

48. The guy promoting that site

and making up that crap is a disturbed. He needs a bitch slapping.

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/2360/tracts/niv.html

[TrustingDog]

50. Commander in Chief anagrams:

anemic chef nimrod
chin foamed mincer (haha, his last debate?)

and for George W. Bush:

gob sewer ugh

[Simeon Salus]

51. "fundamentalist church" becomes "lucifer's damn nuthatch"...

...if you really want to switch a few letters around.

somewhat appropriate, to my mind