"Voice of the White House" speaks . . . Iran, smallpox, more . . .

[OneBlueSky]

TBRNews has just published the latest from the Voice of the White House . . . including some very scary stuff about smallpox . . .

http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1247.htm

(snip)

We know here that Bush and his people are growing more and more eager to start withdrawing troops from Iraq by the middle of next year. The real reason for this is that Bush wants badly to invade Iran, and later Syria, and simply does not have the troops for it. GIs thinking they will be going home are in for a rude awakening as will be their families. Bush doesn’t give a damn about this because he got reelected and could care less what families think. A man who has never gone to any military funeral for the men his actions have killed would care less about what he terms “just limited and temporary” unhappiness domestically. The undertakers, at least, are making money.

(snip0

Also, I am forwarding to you tonight, a précis of a very high level report on bioterrorism ( an attack on the US using smallpox..) The original document, which has the highest classifications, would be a real bitch to scan and forward (it runs to six hundred pages) came from three reports: The CIA, the CDC (which is entirely in the Administration’s pocket) and a British intelligence source. (Also highly classified and designed for their leadership alone.)

It will scare the hell out of you and, hopefully, your readers. And the terrifying fact is that it is a certainty and that nothing can be done about it. There is a projected dieoff in this country alone of nearly 70,000,000 people when this gets going! There are absolutely no defenses against it, the government having deliberately destroyed huge stocks of effective vaccine. We know with absolute certainty that terrorists have the smallpox virus, obtained from crooked Russian officials., and although we do not know at present which group is planning to use it as a bioterrorist weapon, we do know for certain that it will be used against us and probably within the next six months. (The winter months are considered the peak months for a widespread dissemination of the virus.)”

Note: This very clear and detailed report is now being processed and will appear on the December 13, 2004, edition of the TBR News posting. Be sure to look for it. It is indeed a terrifying document and ought to be read by everyone.The following official White House press release is a real curtain-raiser to this coming disaster. Ed.

- more . . .

http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1247.htm

[shraby]

1. What is this guy's accuracy rate on that site?

[necso]

2. I think that this is a dupe.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2814414

I'm not trying to be fussy, but this thread is maybe going to be locked.

[Nordic]

3. gee, thanks. I was just about to go to bed

Maybe I'll take that Nyquil after all

[RC]

4. Smallpox immunity may last a lifetime

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=Ns99994064

Vaccination may induce life-long immunity to smallpox, suggest the results of the first detailed tests of their kind. This means that any terrorist release of smallpox might not spread as catastrophically fast as feared, and fewer people might die.

Smallpox was declared eradicated in the wild in 1980, after a worldwide vaccination campaign. But the disease stopped circulating earlier in the west, and routine vaccination ceased in the 1970s. That means most westerners born since then have not been vaccinated, making smallpox - which is highly contagious and kills a third of its victims - potentially a horrific biological weapon.

But how horrific depends on whether people who were vaccinated have retained their immunity. It has been assumed that few would.

<SNIP>

Taken together with the earlier observations, "this suggests that long-term smallpox immunity might depend on antibodies, not T-cells," says Slifka. This would be good news, because in the test group antibodies seemed to remain "remarkably stable" after vaccination.

It suggests that half of those vaccinated as children - about one in four westerners - is currently immune to smallpox. Furthermore, nearly all of the rest of the vaccinated population may be partially immune. This could mean they might get only mild disease, says Slifka, and - importantly for control measures - would probably not be contagious.

* * * * * * * * * * * *
Study: Smallpox immunity remains in body for years after vaccination

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/DailyNews/2003/May/22/StudySmallpox22.htm

People vaccinated against smallpox as long as 75 years ago may still retain some immunity to the disease, a new study finds. That means as many as 150 million Americans could already be significantly protected, researchers say.

Antibodies to vaccinia, the live virus used in the smallpox vaccine, were present in more than 90% of the 306 people tested, and remained fairly constant whether the participants were vaccinated a year ago or as far back as 1928, says researcher Mark K. Slifka of the Oregon Health and Science University. "From one to 75 years out, the levels were in the same range," he says.

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Check the dates. The newer studies say that the immunity remains. Studies older than two years old it doesn't. I am old enough to remember when it was common knowledge that getting it once conferred lifetime immunity.

[shraby]

5. Even before the smallpox vaccine

they found that milk maids didn't get smallpox and had an immunity to it, a lifetime one. After vaccinations were common, lifetime immunity was what it was supposed to give.
(I'm old enough, too.)

[DemBones DemBones]

7. Common knowledge it conferred lifetime immunity? So why did we

get smallpox boosters every ten years or so? I was vaccinated three times.

Also, by 1970, many pediatricians were no longer vaccinating. It's always worried me that they discontinued it.

[seabeyond]

8. i tried to google finding out how long it lasted

and couldnt find any concrete info

[DemBones DemBones]

10. Nobody really knows. nt

[seabeyond]

6. had to google some before bed, but feel better

MOST AMERICANS CAN'T RECEIVE SMALLPOX VACCINE

A major blow to the best laid plans of the New Vaccinators came on 10 Sept 02 with the Reuters article <1> about the CDC announcing how the new smallpox vaccine is not to be recommended for:

- HIV people
- anyone on immunosuppressive drugs
- anyone with eczema
The CDC quoted a new study in the Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology, describing reactions that include blindness, scarring, and death. <31> So the vaccine is therefore contraindicated in all these cases, according to the CDC.

Eczema patients alone comprise half the US population. AIDS patients and those on immunosuppressive drugs add another significant proportion to the group of those who shouldn't be vaccinated.

In addition, the omniscient media seem to have forgotten that most Americans over 31 years of age have already been vaccinated for smallpox, since the vaccine was only halted in 1971 in the US. Remember? So if the vaccine is supposed to work, then obviously these people will not need a new shot, right?

Then who does that leave? Ten percent of the population would be a reasonable estimate.

It's not much of a stretch to see how the threat of smallpox is a marketing tool, right out of classic Bernays Public Relations 101, that is being used to justify paying vaccine manufacturers $800 million for a vaccine that is unproven, untested, and contraindicated for 90% of the population.

Why then are our new masters shrieking about the 280 million doses we need to protect the American people from this imminent bioterrorist threat?

[RC]

9. The old vaccine was made from killed virus.

You could not get the disease.
The new stuff, on the other hand, is a live virus, which makes possible to START an epidemic by wholesale vaccinations.
Another reason these criminals wanted the old vaccine destroyed.

[amandabeech]

11. The smallpox report is up today 12/14.

If it is true, and sometimes TBRnews hits the nail on the head, a smallpox outbreak could be devastating. Whether there is a 90% certainty of it happening within the next year or so, I have no idea. However, have any of you noticed that since * won, other nations have been entering into alliances and trade agreements excluding us on a very rapid basis, as though many deals have been in the works for some time and hinged on a * victory?

I've done some googling on smallpox, and much of the article seems correct. However, I didn't find much on the possibility that the current vaccine has deteriorated, and that the vaccine given to the military and hospital personnel might not work.

Older people, including boomers and early x-ers, who were vaccinated may have some resistance and might get a relatively mild, non-lethal case. A disease that hits the young the hardest is the most cruel, and bodes the worst for society at large.





http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1252.htm

[shadowknows69]

12. somebody just made a tv movie about it

on tbs or usa or something. one infected person getting off a plane in a major metro area and pretty soon there will be plenty of new jobs. the shrub's economic plan maybe?

[scarletlib]

13. haven't read the article in question yet but have a few comments

to make.

I am a boomer who had vaccine back in the fifties. I do think a form of lifetime immunity is conferred. People travelling overseas did not have to be re-vaccinated. So I think if there is an outbreak it can be contained and perhaps not so devastating.

My son was born in 1972. I am quessing that in late 1972 or early 1973 I had him vaccinated for small pox. At that time doctors were no longer routinely vaccinating children and he actually special ordered it for me because I wanted my son vaccinated. Unfortunately by the time my daughter was born in 1979 that option was no longer available so she is not vaccinated.

What ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTS ME ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING IS THE FACT OF THE LONG STRUGGLE BY DEDICATED HEALTH PERSONNEL TO ELIMINATE THIS HORRENDOUS DISEASE FROM AFFECTING HUMANITY. NOW WE HAVE SOB'S EITHER HERE AND/OR ELSEWHERE WILLING TO RELEASE THIS SCOURGE ON HUMANITY AGAIN FOR THEIR OWN SELFISH MOTIVES. I HAVE NO WORDS THAT CAN DESCRIBE HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS.