I think Bush will not be the Republican nominee in 2004.

[grytpype]

Bush is becoming such a liability to the Repugs, I think he's going to be jettisoned in 2004.

I think that at the GOP convention in New York, the Repugs will nominate Rudy "Benito" Giuliani as their candidate. It will be a surprise, but one that was planned months in advance.

And Rudy will win the election at a walk.

Think it can't happen?

[demnan]

1. I doubt it.

There are still plenty of idiots out there who love the cowboy but wouldn't hanker well to an "eye-talian".

[jumptheshadow]

2. I don't think they'll nominate Rudy

He's too liberal on social issues for the Far Right.

[Racenut20]

3. R U

smoking that stuff in a pipe?

[ButterflyBlood]

4. Rudy is pro-choice

forget it

[quinnox]

5. Just think if they nominated Limbaugh

and then Hillary jumped in to the race to save the Dems.

[Catholic Sensation]

6. If you go by Luntz's numbers

then why?

If you go based on the sentiment of a truly unbiased sample of Americans, then it could happen.

[gratuitous]

7. A nice thought

But not a chance in hell. These thieves have what they stole fair and square, and they're not going to give it back just because they've been caught. They are the embodiment of "If I can't have it, nobody can." As their grip starts to slip, look for a lot more blood to flow; it won't be pretty, but it has to be done.

[CMT]

8. he is not that much of a liability yet

he is well liked by his own party, it is GOP voters with approval ratings of 90% and up which have kept Bush's ratings in the polls from totally collapsing.

[diplomats]

13. His numbers among Repukes are still sky high

as you mention. The reason behind his recent drop is declines among Dems and Independents.

[displacedvermoter]

9. Rudy would have a tough time winning New York in my opinion.

And he might have a tough time winning some of the states that Bush won, too boot! I don't think it can happen, and certainly not "at a walk"!

[morningglory]

12. I have been thinking they have a plane crash in his future.

Then they might get a sympathy vote.

[Nederland]

10. No

Bush is only a liability in the minds of Democrats who already hate him--in the minds of Republicans he is a tremendous asset.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. "Think It Can't Happen"

It will happen right after Madonna and Brittany Spears invite me for a menage a trois...

[SCantiGOP]

14. I would put this possibility

somewhere in the same range as the GOP nominating Al Franken. Bush will get 95% + at the convention.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. I'll See Your Possibility And Raise You One

I see the possibility of the R's dumping * at the Convention less likely than Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter inviting Al Franken for a menage a trois....


btw- did you read Al's book yet?


It rocks....

[Wetzelbill]

16. Oh we can dream

There are enough dumb people in this country to ensure this will not happen. Bush gets the "idiot" and "bigot" vote, so no matter what he does that will keep him around. Just watch Jerry Springer and see how many trashy people sing Bush praises out of the blue. I nearly fainted when some lesbian chick said Bush was the only man who could ever get her to switch sides again. (she called him "our great president") Yuk. It had to be the stuffed schlong in the flight suit thing, if you ask me.

[11 Bravo]

17. Are you a person who enjoys an occasional wager?

If so, please contact me immediately.

[haymaker]

18. Yeah, I think it can't happen.

Wise up, pal.

[grytpype]

19. OK, all you nay-sayers...

... let's take another look at this issue next summer, after Iraq and the economy have gotten substantially worse, and the public starts blaming it all on Bush.

Bush might still be popular in some quarters now, but if summer rolls around and he's in worse trouble than he is today (just extend the trend line), the Repugs will cast him off without a second thought.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

22. Carter Couldn't Have Looked Worse In August of 1980

and the Dems didn't drop him...

[TacticalPeek]

32. But, no substantial scandals, no malfeasance, and August is too late.

There WAS the Ted Kennedy thing.

[TheYellowDog]

20. It will be Bush

I mean, if it's not, look at the alternatives that would please the religious RW. John Ashcroft and Tom DeLay come to mind. :puke:

[bushisanidiot]

28. Don't Forget Moses!

Those freepers would love to see a President Heston.. nevermind the altheimers.

[Sinistrous]

21. Glad to see I'm not the only one who sees this possibility.

The dung dike around the White House is getting deep. One shove from a few Retrog stalwarts, and bushbaby is gone.

Not sure that the replacement will be Benito, though.

[Nashyra]

24. I wouldn't find it all that outrageous

but I think they will make him quit for one reason or another and they will nominate Chuck "Diebold" Hagel who has a very outspoken critic of *

[NNN0LHI]

23. I agree. What happens to Bush's $200 million dollar war chest...

...if this happens? Does the next guy get to use it? Anyone know?

Don

[grasswire]

25. he can't win with just Republicans...

...and that's what makes him expendable. We just have to peel off about 3 percent of them to win, and I think that's doable.

Regarding the $$. He hasn't raised $200 million yet. I think it's about $40 mil so far. I'd be REAL interested in knowing if fundraising is harder for him this go-round.

[NNN0LHI]

26. Whatever the amount is can the next guy use it if you know? n/t

[Journeyman]

31. I think it goes to Crawford . . .

or Kennebunkport, should Dumby decide to jettison his Pig Farm in Hell.

[bushisanidiot]

27. Huh? There Just Gonna Skip Over That Whole Primary Thingy

and surprise everyone with a Guilliani nomination at the convention? hmmm.. I don't think so.

On edit: There = they're
Crap.

[noonwitch]

29. Bush would have to get caught doing something pretty awful for that

Like being caught in bed with a dead teenaged whore and a kilo of cocaine. Anything less wouldn't be enough. Even if he did drop out for some reason, they'd just run Jeb. The religious right would not tolerate Rudy as the nominee, despite the love that the average american has for him. I wouldn't vote for him, but I do like Rudy for rising to the occasion on 9-11, when Bush was barely able to put three words together without looking and sounding like a scared little puppy.

[TacticalPeek]

30. Amazingly enough, I think there's a good chance you could be half-right.

I disagree on Rude, doubt he'd get the call.

But:

IFIFIF, by next summer, His Whistle Ass' numbers are very, very, very bad; so bad they will obviously drag many members down with him, then I'd like to hear the argument against the POSSIBILITY that his term may end like Nixon's or LBJ's: no mas. OK, maybe LBJ's wasn't exactly "no mas", but something like that. The chimp would drop out of re-election due to health or some BS, probably not resign short of massive scandal.

How can I imagine such low, low numbers? Scandals, investigations, inquiries, legal proceedings, policy setbacks, all in a vise of pressure the poor, fortunate son cannot stand up to, and leading to further abuses, scandals, etc.

Dreamy, I know. But at this point in 1979, President Raygun was just a bad-dreamy sort of notion, et voila! Things happen that aren't in the script.

These jerks are piss-poor at governing, and its increasingly showing through. The creeps are masters of political manipulation, but that can carry a stinking, dead horse only so far. Jack the weight up enough and it crumbles in flames and fallout. When the potential blow-back reaches a critical point, his supporters will look out for themselves.

KKKarl's future felon status, the debacle in Iraq, etc. are just the beginning of the fissures that are cracking their facade. Their incompetence and untrustworthiness are becoming apparent. If a big, scary terra attack occurs, we will not see a big spike in approval numbers that slowly subsides as before. Rather a short, little spike that turns to doom for the usurpers. The people are more and more likely to wise up. The mendacious media dam can burst when they smell blood.

[DrGonzoLives]

33. No, he will be

No incumbent for president has ever been unseated in a primary. Besides, while some in the GOP are starting to murmur un-GOP like things about Bush, as a whole, the Republican electorate still thinks he's dreamy.

[illini]

34. I heard someone was smoking CRACK.

nt

[msmcghee]

35. I doubt they could find another puke so dumb . .

. . that he'd do everything they (PNAC) tells him to do.

Any half-intelligent experienced politican would know that his name will be despised and spit upon for generations to come for what he is doing today. That will start as soon as the sheep realize that we are actually swimming in a deep pool of sheep-shit - thanks to their idiotic flag waving paranoia re: 9/11 and their consequent support for the mean-spirited idiot now in the WH.

I doubt that GWB even realizes how much he will be despised for this. He will have whole chapters devoted to his stupidity and self-serving hypocracy in the history books starting just a few years from now.

[tom_paine]

36. You are thinking as if you live in a Democratic Republic.

But you don't. What we live in now is rapidly transitioning to an Orwellian-Totalitarian-Free-Market-Stalinist-Oligarchic-Empire.

And in such a place "political liability" has no meaning. How can it when the very concept of "lies" and "truth" are archaic concepts to 99% of the jaded, drugged-up, worn-out, harried, hurried, bored by overamusement, post-ironic sheep that pass for the Imperial Subjects of Amerika?

I have hopes but not much more than that. This is the most disgraceful generation of Amerikans that ever lived. Either during the 225 years of the Old American Republic or these last three years of Imperial Tranistional Twilight.

[davsand]

37. I think you are right about shrub not being the nominee.

I've said all the way thru that he was not intended to go the full term and that once he became a liability he'd be left hung out to dry. I figured he'd go down on a forced resignation rather than anything too dramatic, however time is running out.

I am not advocating anything amd I do not wish him harm, however I do think that the same powerbrokers who put him in that office have a vested reason not to let him run again against a strong Dem candidate. I think they'll arrange a plane crash or a martyrdom for him and Jebbie will run in his stead--kinda going for that Bobbie Kennedy mystique along with the whole sympathy vote.

I think the ONLY thing that has kept him safe this long is the fact that his polling numbers were good and the American people bought the spin on WMDs and hunting down terra. Now that the numbers are starting to drop, and the polling data on questions like "Any unnamed Democrat -v- Shrub" is showing a loss on re-election I look for him to be in real trouble.

Just my two cents--and I'll put on a tin foil hat if you like, but I'm convinced it could be a possibility.

Laura

[freethought]

38. Bush is the Repug's man, I have NO doubt

I disagree with the original posting. The Repugs are not going to e jettison their meal ticket. And Bush is very effectively able to mobilize his base. Something thing Dems seem to have trouble doing.
Is it possible they might bring in Rudy? Yes, its possible but highly unlikely even in the extreme.

[Bandit]

39. They own the Black Box voting machines

Why should they care who is on their ticket? Hell Goofy could be running and they will still win by 1.5% Remember no exit polls anymore.