Riverbend checked in today

[medeak]

For those who are fans:

http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/

[realFedUp]

1. The Americans have gasoline...

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Oh don't get me wrong- the governmental people have gasoline (they have special gas stations where there aren't all these annoying people, rubbing their hands with cold and cursing the Americans to the skies)... The Americans have gasoline. The militias get gasoline. It's the people who don't have it. We can sometimes get black-market gasoline but the liter costs around 1250 Iraqi Dinars which is almost $1- compare this to the old price of around 5 cents. It costs almost 50,000 Iraqi Dinars to fill up the generator so that it works for a few hours and then the cost isn't so much the problem as just getting decent gasoline is. So we have to do without electricity most of the day.

Cooking gas has also become a problem. The guy who sells us the gas cylinders isn't coming around because apparently he can't get the used cylinders exchanged for full ones. People are saying that it costs around 10,000 Iraqi dinars to buy one on the street and then, as usual, you risk getting one that might explode in the kitchen or be full of water. We're trying to do more and more of our 'cooking' on the kerosene heater. The faucet water is cold, cold, cold. We can't turn on the water heater because there just isn't enough electricity. We installed a kerosene water heater some time last year but that has also been off because there's a kerosene shortage and we need that for the heaters.

[radwriter0555]

2. HEY! that iraqi LIBERATION and NATION BUILDING is going GREAT!

(If you own halliburton!)

[CornField]

3. Thank goodness

This time she had me worried... it had been almost a month and her last post had so much dispair.

[medeak]

4. Agree

am starting to wonder if her posts are cyclical?

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[Robbien]

7. The rabid right has to believe she doesn't exist

The rabid right went to Iraq to spread democracy not despair.

Riverbend is writing that yesterday was bad, very bad. But yesterday was much better than today. She also writes that one must enjoy the disaster today is because tomorrow will be worse.

And the rabid right skips along merrily saying Iraq is so grateful because our beloved Bush removed Saddam.

[medeak]

9. so used to distortion that the truth shakes them up

this guy has already had one thread locked.

[paulk]

8. it's good to question

especially what you read on the internet.

Instead of saying "I hear", the best thing would be to read the blog and make your own judgement.

That's what I do - and I believe "Riverbend" is legit.

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[Robbien]

11. She is spoiled because she likes hot water and no bombs?

She is spoiled because she likes electricity and running water and available food? She is spoiled because she likes to walk out of her house without male family members guarding her?

Her father is a sadist? You are so familiar with sadists that you can say that of a complete stranger? What has Riverbend ever written that has given the impression her father is a sadist?

[medeak]

14. I used ignore option

for the first time ever.

[CornField]

30. I've been looking for a reason to try that out :-)

[Minstrel Boy]

12. If she were,

the family would have gas, electricity and security. Because it is the "baath party sadists" who have been hired on by the occupation forces.

For instance:

Saddam secret police recruited to beat terror threat
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/09/05/wirq205.xml

And I've been reading you for a while now, "lesterhalfjr."

Shall I tell you my guess for whose spoiled child you are?

[Katarina]

13. Oh cry me a freaking river!

Why don't YOU go over there and let us know first hand exactly how it is? :nuke:

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[Minstrel Boy]

16. "some almost as anti-american as a mainstream Canadian newspaper"

:eyes: :crazy: :eyes: :crazy: :eyes: :crazy: :eyes: :crazy: :eyes: :crazy: :eyes: :crazy:

[nostamj]

20. anti-BUSH is not anti-AMERICAN

in case you've missed it, BUSH IS DESPISED IN EVERY COUNTRY ON THE PLANET.

EVERY. SINGLE. COUNTRY.

[livinginphotographs]

17. Ding ding ding!

Damn, dude, you're not even trying...

I see a tombstone in your future.

[medeak]

22. I hear taps playing.... n/t

[qanda]

28. I guess only if enough of us hit alert

[Robbien]

18. You have also written that your beloved Bush is ruling Iraq better

than Saddam did.

You are now saying that our friendliest neighbor Canada is anti-American because it does not bend over for your Bush.

It must be such a small ugly world you live in.

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[medeak]

23. buh bye!

I hate Bush and Riverband too..

http://www.rivernet.net/riverband/meet.html

[thedailyshow]

24. So that's two countries out of over a hundred countries....

That's a rather fucking poor record for an American President.

[Robbien]

25. Ha, ha, ha. Right. Now you are disavowing your beloved Bush

Not fooling anyone because it is obvious you are not a liberal or progressive or even a centrist.

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[Robbien]

29. Bet you want to abolish Social Security and believe Bush won Ohio

Also believe French is a dirty word.

Your beloved almighty Bush does.

[livinginphotographs]

35. It's not knee-jerk...

It's the tendency for DUers to flock to right-wing ignoramuses who post bullshit without backing any of it up.

[Forkboy]

65. there's this cool feature called Search

let's one see all of someone's posts.Your's are rather...um,interesting.

[livinginphotographs]

26. You replied to me and didn't answer my question.

Try again.

So when are you enlisting?

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[livinginphotographs]

33. Like your pals in al Qaeda?

Where exactly in my posts did I say I sympathize with Al Qaeda?

And what exactly is your definition of a terrorist? Someone who shoots a wounded fighter in the head? People who bomb civilians to smithereens as a matter of policy? People who lock US citizens up with no charges and no trial and no chance to talk to an attorney for an indefinite amount of time?

George Bush IS a terrorist and if he's allowed to, will soon be a dictator. And as far as sadistic goes, funny you mention that. Ever heard about him mocking Karla Faye Tucker when she was about to be executed? Ever hear about him blowing up frogs as a child?

Posting nothing but two or three sentences full of right-wing talking points and an occasional "Oh yeah but I don't like Bush" isn't enough to convince me.

Once again, when are you planning on enlisting? Hmmmmmmmmm?

[Katarina]

34. Wrong!

Bush IS a terrorist and a dictator. Bush IS sadistic...google Carla Faye Tucker if you need a reminder.

By the way - if nothing else in this post gave you away the "your pals in al queda" comment sealed the deal.

Why don't you take a nice long trip? Here's your ticket.
http://www.dior.whs.mil/forms/DD0004.PDF

[Robbien]

36. Why didn't you vote for Bush? He believes exactly what you believe.

So far all your posts say everything that Bush would say, if he could type.

[manic expression]

64. Guess what?

Do some research (or active thinking) and you will find out that the US is actively supporting many sadistic dictators AS WE SPEAK. Coincidentally, the US once supported Saddam Hussein, even after he gassed the Kurds (with the weapons the US gave him). Saddam was just one of many horrible dictators who have received/are receiving full US support.
For your information, Osama bin Laden HATED Saddam Hussein. Saddam did not make Iraq a Fundamentalist Islamic country, worked with the "infidels" and brought them to the "holy land". We removed one of Osama's enemies and replaced it with a vacuum in which there is a possibility of a theocratic Islamic nation. Good job, America!

[number6]

32. well gender undeclared lesterhalf JR.

"spoiled child of some baath party sadist."
or "front for a radical left group" :eyes:

maybe all those soldiers writing letters that don't paint a rosy
picture are the same eh ....


?? "as anti-american as a mainstream Canadian newspaper" ??

those Canadian terrorists

Voted for Kerry ? LOL really

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[nostamj]

38. "America isn't responsible for one death."

could you go back to flinging poop on the walls of your cage?

please?

30-100,000 (we'll NEVER know) innocent iraqis killed. countless maimed. and no responsibility?

right.

[number6]

49. he he

lesterhalfjr
"America isn't responsible for one death."

nostamj
"could you go back to flinging poop on the walls of your cage?"

number6 :guffaw: :giggle: :smirk: ;) lol

[Minstrel Boy]

39. I think you've lost the plot.

But thanks for the "riverbend is a socialist plot" belly laugh.

[Robbien]

43. Yes. The guy is all over the map

But at least his rabid postings is keeping Riverbend's link at the top of the pile so more people are aware of her new entry.

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[nostamj]

48. "Dictators are the ones who usually start wars."

and WHO started THIS one? with nothing but LIES?

GWBUSH. and no one else.

SH was nothing. had nothing. there was no need to BOMB CIVILIANS to take out SH. there was no need to send 1200+ US soldiers to their deaths and THOUSANDS more with their lives destroyed.

for NOTHING.

you have the intellectual depth of a snail trail.

[davhill]

57. Don't have terrorism or dictators?

Iraqis were supposed to get rid of Saddam like we got rid of Bush on Nov 2? Dictators are not that easy to get rid of once they get their nasty foot in the door. America is finding that out for itself now.

[Tansy_Gold]

58. "democracies are hard enough to deal with"

That's a pretty close paraphrase of your hero booosh and his wish to be a dictator, just the kind who starts wars.

sorry, lester, but your ineptitude is showing through like pink underwear on a Maricopa County Jail inmate.

Remember the old epitaph on Boot Hill for Lester Moore?

No Les, no more.


Tansy Gold, proud socialist in AZ

[manic expression]

73. If it wasn't for the US

Saddam wouldn't have been there in the first place. Look at the US atrocities in Iraq! Napalm and white phosphorous, killing civilians in "accidental fire", firing upon protesters, torture of innocent detainees, no semblance of order or law, bombing houses and weddings for no reason (oh yeah, to get all those terrorist Iraqi civilians!)...the list goes on and on and on and on.
Dictators usually start wars? Like the war we started with Iraq for no reason whatsoever? Of course, it is very arguable that Bush and his cronies make up the dictatorship of America, so you may be right for once.
"Middle eastern people"??????????????? First of all, have some respect. Second of all, we have terrorists in America, what do you call the KKK? Oklahoma City bombing? Iraq? These are all terrorist actions created by the US of A. Oh yeah, and the Middle East would have a few less dictators if it wasn't for America, so you're wrong, again.

[Katarina]

41. Bullsh*t

He's not fighting terrorists! He has done nothing but created even more hatred for the US. Those "imsurgents" you speak of...they are fighting for their land. Land we went over and invaded! How would you like it if a foreign country came over here and told us how we should be living. Oh wait, we don't need a foreign country to do that. We have the ShrubCo to do that to all of us.

[livinginphotographs]

42. Oh No! Not socialists!

Maybe it's French too!!!!!

And George Bush isn't fighting terrorists. He's making them.

Keep digging your hole, freeper.

By the way, have you enlisted yet?

[rman]

68. you're a corporatist plot

what Bush is doing is called state-sponsored terrorism.
and of course he'd deny responsibility, they always do.

[Tansy_Gold]

55. My guess is

she's a human being who would like the lights on at night, the bath water to be warm, her food cooked.

that radical left organization she probably belongs to is the human race.

[Forkboy]

63. Your posts down in I/P are starting to make sense now

:silly:

[rman]

66. well, that's some wild guessing you're doing there

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[0rganism]

74. No doubt. They always accuse us of doing what they already do

Check out http://www.iraqthemodel.blogspot.com for the Bushwing front organization.

[CornField]

40. Why are there gasoline shortages in Baghdad?

Are the oil lines being targeted? The refineries? Are they not producing their own? Is it not getting into the country?

I've heard and read nothing in the mainstream about this. Well, to be honest, I've heard little in the mainstream about any Iraqi civilian issues. One might be led to believe that the press does not want us sympathizing with them on any level.

[medeak]

45. msm has been covering the MILES of gas lines

last two days to my surprise.. it's hard to ignore and dramatic copy visually.

[Robbien]

46. They import the majority of their gas and kerosine

They refine only about 10-20% of their needs. Talk about irony.

Mainstream media says "Iraq, what's that?"

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[nostamj]

50. HINT!!!!

"backing" and INVADING AND OCCUPYING AND SLAUGHTERING are vastly different concepts.

grab the dictionary, blow off the DUST, and check it out! :-)

[number6]

51. how about .....

"I would want to be invaded."
.....having your arms and legs blown off
........a stay at Abu Griab, with a leash around your neck
stripped neked, lead around by Lyndie England
.......your home bombed flat

would that tickle your fancy too ??

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[livinginphotographs]

60. So you think that every single report

of torture in Guantanamo or Iraq prevented a "terrorist" attack? Torture is used most of the time by lazy sadists, end of story. And the rules of war (and simple human decency, for that matter) are not something to follow when convenient, and throw out when not. If we're torturing prisoners, how are we better than Saddam?

As far as Osama goes, it doesn't matter who taught him his "weird" views. We armed him, trained him, and gave him a damn good reason to be pissed at us. We also created some great recruiting posters for him and al Qaeda.

[number6]

62. ya just don't get comment like that every day on DU

"If I was a terrorist that is what I would want because I would it is what I would deserve. that's what abu graib was all about. they were ineptly trying to find terrorists. It's another great rason why people should not let terrorists be their friends"

... lesterhalfjr
that's what abu graib was all about ?
I thought it was about humiliation and torture of Prisoners
not convicted of anything BTW ...
I just don't know what to say to that :silly:



good point ...livinginphotographs
"And the rules of war (and simple human decency, for that matter) are not something to follow when convenient, and throw out when not. If we're torturing prisoners, how are we better than Saddam?"

[manic expression]

61. OK

You are hopeless. You would like to be tortured in the name of probably stopping "terrorists". Get a grip! Do you really think we've gotten ANY information on terrorist activities in Iraq through this base torture? Of course not! Even if we did (and we have not), it would be contrary to everything we supposedly (but don't) stand for. Bring freedom to Iraq through torture! Bring peace to the world in the form of napalm! This is inherently wrong, and so are you.
By the way, the terrorists who carry out attacks against Iraqis are hated by the resistance, and have nothing to do with those who are fighting the US Occupation for various goals. The terrorist organizations are NOT the resistance groups.

"but abu graib is a different story I guess because it involves other issue like bad planning. authority given to random people who then totally abuse it, etc."
Newsflash: Torture was made a policy by Bush and the criminals in his administration. This is happening all over in many US military prisons and military bases. Yeah, authority given to random people who abuse it...like Bush and his cronies?

"Did the US teach them to hate each other???"
Perhaps the US isn't doing anything to try and stop the civil war which is will probably unfold in Iraq. Perhaps the invasion itself, and the inept and criminal occupation afterwords, sparked the situation that innocent Iraqis now face. The lawlessness and insanity that is happening is the direct result of the US.

"Like people who say "well the US trained Osama in Afghanistan" did we teach him his weird religious views???"
Oh, please. We give him CIA backing and training and now you're saying he was able to carry out his attacks because of his "weird religious views"???? Guess what? A LOT of people have weird religious views, but they aren't able to carry out horrible attacks unless WE give them the means to do so.
In conclusion: You're wrong.

[Forkboy]

67. You were safer down in I/P

where your rampant stupidity was at least confined to one topic.

[neverforget]

59. Put your ass where your mouth is and get over to Iraq and tell us

first hand how well things are going over there.....or just join the Army, I hear they're providing all expenses paid trips to Iraq.

[medeak]

54. now I understand Riverbend's complaints

of all the hate mail she received from US...

again.. great compassion shown by right wingers right here on DU

[medeak]

69. my post was only one deleted on this thread?

unbelievable...freeper alerts not allowed?

[nostamj]

70. you can alert with the ALERT button

but, you cannot call a poster a freeper. that's the rule.

(apparently though you can call them a poop-flinging monkey with the intellectual depth of a snail trail without a problem....

;-)

[Robbien]

71. Seems the ALERT button does not work on the poop-flinging monkey

in this thread. Wonder how many ALERTS have been made on Mr half a lester and all the while the poop keeps getting flung by the snail trail intellectual.

[medeak]

72. I made three n/t

funny how the alertee gets it.

[patdem]

75. The moderator of this forum may have been at work! BUT HE/SHE CAME

THROUGH!!! The half lester has been deleted!

TIME WOUNDS ALL HEELS!!!

[medeak]

76. yay!

glad I checked back in.. was sitting on pitty pot.

[manic expression]

77. DING! DONG! THE WITCH IS DEAD!

The wicked witch is dead!

...Maybe someone should start another thread on the same topic so we can actually have a discussion.