Today, Once Again, Proves Why New York Is The Best State In America

[THUNDER HANDS]

We don't cheer when people get put to death here. In fact, we don't really get excited over murder cases here at all.

California is a nice state, its blue, has a ton of electoral votes that really help our party out and everything...

But lets face it, New York is where its at.

California, and those tanned yahoos on the west coast cheering on the verdict outside he courthouse, basically showed that they don't deserve to be the big fish in this pond called America.

It always was a bit of a flaky state anyway, what with your pineapple pizzas and your electing a moronic actor Governor and your surfing.

Give me a cold, blustery day in New York. Where the real people live. Hardened, tough, real.

New York.

Gotta love it. :)

[Jack_Dawson]

1. New York doesn't have idiots?

Please. :beer:

[THUNDER HANDS]

2. we're not flaky

and we don't like pineapples on our pizzas, thank you very much.

[Jack_Dawson]

5. Is that all you got?

Pineapples on Pizzas = Flaky?

LOL stop wasting our time. If you're gonna bring it, then BRING it!

[THUNDER HANDS]

7. well, at least we stay until the end of our baseball games

and don't leave in the 8th inning to beat traffic.

Wimps.

[Jack_Dawson]

9. Because you have no LIFE...

There's other shit to do here besides watch an overpaid, overhyped team choke away a 3-0 ALCS lead.

Doh!

[THUNDER HANDS]

16. I'm a Mets fan

which, i know, isn't saying much, but I stay all 9 innings, even in defeat, which is quite often.

[Jack_Dawson]

21. I stay for 9 innings too...

But if it's a blowout and I can shave off an hour by leaving an inning early, I'll take it. It's not flaky - it's smart.

[THUNDER HANDS]

22. no no no, I'm not talking about that and you know it

I'm talking about the throngs of Dodgers fans who pile out of Dodger Stadium in the 8th inning of a 1-0 or 2-2 game.

[Jack_Dawson]

24. Dude I live in San Diego

Los Angeles is another story altogether.

[LSparkle]

15. Have you tackled CA traffic?

Don't call anyone who tries to avoid traffic here a wimp ... it's murder out there, baby...

[mcscajun]

29. Ha! I've been in Los Angeles traffic...

...it doesn't hold a candle to the insanity that is the Washington (D.C.) Beltway or the Cross-Bronx Expressway (NYC).

Only thing L.A. traffic seems to have more of than the East Coast roads I mentioned? More road-rage shootings.

[bettyellen]

35. oh the cross bronx expressway is killer 24/ 7 ! ! !

hours of my life wasted on that awful bumpy road.. agreed, worse than la, anytime!

[idiosyncratic]

10. I'm not flaky, but I love pineapple on my pizza w/Canadian bacon.

UMMMMMM! PIZZA . . .

[LSparkle]

14. This is one Californian who likes pineapple on her pizzas

damn it! But that doesn't make me a flake. (Hey, I like pepperoni on super thin crust, too.) However, I AM TOTALLY ASHAMED of the behavior of those people in Redwood City. Geez, you'd think in liberal, perceived-as-more-intellectual NORTHERN CAL. they'd behave better. Disgusting ... Don't paint us all with the same broad brush, though, please. And I love New York (and NYC in particular) but California ain't half bad, especially when it's currently 75 degrees in mid-December.

[morgan2]

52. every state has idiots

but every state does not elect their idiots govenor.

[nedlogg]

3. New York is the Center of the Universe!

Everyone knows that. And for those who don't belive it, let me ask you this:

If New York is not the center of the universe, what is?

[whalerider55]

20. I've been there

the center of the universe is an asian restaurant in Lowell, Massachusetts,called the Southeast Asian Restaurant.

if it is possible for something good to have emerged from all of that horror in the 60's, then it must be very good karma.

it must be the center of the universe.

whalerider55

[Kathy in Cambridge]

41. I've been to that restaurant in Lowell

it is fabulous! :9

[Chandler Stork]

4. I'm sorry, but that sounded like bad '80s standup.

New York vs. L.A. jokes - I guess they never get old.

[arcane1]

6. L.A. and California are 2 different things

fyi

[La Lioness Priyanka]

51. honey, its true, NY does rock! and you know it!

Sf and california are not the same thing either.

[arcane1]

53. I would have to agree with both of those statements

I just hate being associated with LA :silly:

[superconnected]

8. thank you NY, wish Washington could be more like you.

[Options Remain]

11. Sorry massachusetts wins

NY has the yankees. :p

TearForger

[Forkboy]

12. If I lived in New York I'd cheer my own death penalty

[THUNDER HANDS]

17. so would I

:evilgrin:

[Forkboy]

23. lol

:spank:

[indigobusiness]

27. That WAS funny.

[alcuno]

13. Sorry, but here in the Heartland is where it's at.

That's Chicago and the State of Illinois. The flakes are in CA and NY is full of those northeastern liberals we hear so much about. Yet, we are an oasis of blue made up of real people.

[murielm99]

18. Yeah!

Let's hear it for blue Illinois.

[THUNDER HANDS]

19. oh don't get me started on Chicago

with your Cubs and your thick pizza and your Balki Bartakomouses... :)

[indigobusiness]

26. Magic Rat...

you're beginning to make sense.

[alcuno]

42. Pizza? We don't like that foreign food here. We're the plain

good old midwest. Not like you champagne swilling, caviar licking, making hawks homeless types.

[mark414]

30. word up

milwaukee is where it's at

fuck the coasts, we got the MIDWEST coast

[alcuno]

43. You got it. I consider Milwaukee to be our twin city.

Now if we could just get the Metra to go past Kenosha.

[mark414]

47. no shit

people in milwaukee are scared of trains i think...it's ridiculous

[Dastard Stepchild]

48. Milwaukee born and Chicago raised...

I'm the best of the Midwest ;)

[bettyellen]

38. but your pizza is just awful! good music scene though!

[autorank]

25. Born in CA, lived in NYC 9 years, now in VA. NY is #1

They're all great places, though. VA will be blue soon and even when the wackos are in charge, someone always ways WWJD (What Would Jefferson Do) and it's generally the right thing.

CA, delightful as it is, is a zoo.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

28. Luv ya NYC: Broadway, shopping on 5th, The Village, SoHo....n/t

[Fleurs du Mal]

31. NYC, maybe

Best city I've ever lived in. "Hardened, tough, real" is pretty accurate. But you'll find that in many other places I'm happy to say. Nvertheless, New Yorkers definitely have an élan vital all their own. :toast:

[UdoKier]

32. You need to get to know California better,

It's a lot more diverse than New York.

The urban Bay area and The inland valley, which is as red as Alabama, couldn't be further apart.

The people cheering Peterson's trial were suburban clods. Most of us in the cities think rather differently. Besides, I believe Sean Hannity began his race-baiting career with a local radio show in New York, did he not? And New Yorkers do love to erupt into racial violence every now and then, do they not?

NY has its share of ignorant Yahoos, so you can keep your superiority complex.

I won't go any further on that because I love New York City every bit as much as a love San Francisco. But there are jerks everywhere. And there are people more progressive and intellectual than you or I living in the South. Believe it.

[bettyellen]

37. it's more diverse than NYC? that's the whole state vs the city right?

it's not a very diverse way of life. people live in cars and can stay within their little worlds forever without ever knowing life in other areas.
New Yorkers can't get away with that, they rub shoulders and are exposed daily to more international influences than some Californians do in their life time!
i can't imagine what city in California is more diverse than NYC. not ethnically or economically anyhow.
Cali is more diverse topologically and in the variety of cars!

[UdoKier]

50. People do not live in cars in San Francisco

We are the 2nd densest city, with the 2nd highest usership of mass transit in America, so think again.

And I was referring more to political diversity. NY is almost all blue, whereas CA is pretty red inland. As for cultural diversity, LA and NY as just as diverse as NYC.

Have you ever been to California or did you just get these notions watching "Poltergeist"?

[H2O Man]

33. rural upstate NY

is the best place on earth.

[Sleepless In NY]

36. I didn't see anyone cheering today

When they read the Guilty verdict, a few weeks back, yes, but today's death sentence, didn't see anyone cheering. Was watching MSNBC, and the crowd seemed tame in comparison to last time.

Love NY, but if I had to move, California would be my next choice, simply beautiful state.

[babylonsister]

34. "Land of fruits and nuts" but

that's my husband's expression. I too am from NY and have 2 sisters living in CA, so go figure. And I love CA weather!:headbang:

[tabasco]

39. Maryland is shaped like a saucepan.

No other State can say that!

(except for Oklahoma)

[Trajan]

40. I was born in North Jersey ....

of a family from the dank and dirty streets of Greenpoint, Brooklyn ...

Having moved at age 10 to Long Beach CA, I then became a 'Left Coaster' .... til age 48 ....

Honestly: there are good and bad people everywhere ... I love NYC, and I Love LA (well, I prefer SD or SF actually) ... But the whole E vs W thing is a tad silly ...

I prefer a nice crispy, cool day myself ..... But honest: There is nothing wrong with a sweet, warm beach day in Sunny CA either, no matter who might be yelling somewhere ....

[trumad]

44. Rudy and Arnold....

You both deserve each other.

[THUNDER HANDS]

45. at least Rudy is out

and Bloomberg will be following shortly.

And Spitzer is already beating Pataki in head-to-head polls.

[xequals]

46. The difference between a state like NY and a state like CA

is that despite being a Northeastern Democratic state, NY is really more moderate and libertarian in nature than liberal. It is more like NJ and less like MA or VT.

In NY, Repubs and Dems, suburban and urban (except the Manhattan elites - which are very much like the California elites) have the "live and let live" mentality. They don't like high taxes and wacky laws. They like common sense.

NY'ers are tougher because they have to deal with tough, unpretty, real world situations .. so a more realistic, natural ideology arises. Most NY'ers -- especially minorities -- side with the Democrats because civil liberties and civil rights are the most important issues to them -- not because they agree with liberal orthodoxy.

OTOH - CA is a state that lives up to all of the liberal stereotypes, i.e "the Nanny state", where the taxes are high and the elite live in pristine suburbs insulated from the reality of what regular people deal with. Stratification. Nanny state liberalism is the reason why the middle class is defecting from states like CA, including traditional Democratic constituencies like Latinos and white working women. Those who remain are the very poor and the very rich. A vast, helpless underclass at the mercy of an elite matriarchy: a society of "children" who need their "mothers" to take care of them and tell them how to live. This is exactly the social structure which results from Western leftism/liberalism - exactly the type of structure (poor at the mercy of the rich) liberals say they fear most.

I'm a moderate libertarian and I think liberals mean well -- I used to be one -- but I believe liberalism results in bad things, exactly the opposite of what liberals usually intend.

[OnionPatch]

49. Well we have our whackos but so do you

I know a few in NY state. In fact, I'm willing to bet there would have been a crowd around that courtroom no matter what state it was held in.

For the record, I hate pineapple on pizza, I'm not tan and I live in the hills where it gets "cold" and "blustery."

The thing about Arnold.....well....you got me there. :shrug: