I have said and now repeat "Jenna is the good one, Barbara's the evil one"

[Bucky]

Jenna to teach in a public school in DC
Don't be bamboozled by blondism or the hard drinkin' hard livin' rep. It's always, always the quiet ones you gotta keep an eye on.

[Lenape85]

1. They are both evil nt

[Silverhair]

3. Don't judge them by their Dad.

They are young. Give them time to become themselves. I would say that becoming a teacher in an inner-city public school is a good thing. Let's wait and see what she does on her own.

[GOPFighter]

14. Yes

Everyone should be judged by their actions. Kudos to Jenna. My ex- used to teach in the DC school system.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

39. a bad tree cannot produce good fruit`

[Silverhair]

40. I am living proof that the children don't have to be like the parents.

My grandfather believed, and tried to teach me, that blacks (He used the N word.) were a kind of money that only looked like people.

My father was racist. During the 60s he believed that the solution for the race marches was to machine gun the marchers. We had horrible screaming arguements in those days.

I believe in the words of the Declaration of Independence - "...all men are created equal..." and try to pratice it.

You are allowing your hatred for W to lead you into injustice. I believe that a progressive gives individuals the chance to prove themselves. And in the case of young people, even the chance to make a few mistakes and to learn from them.

I stand by what I have said. Let's wait and see, and judge them by what they do.

[mitchum]

63. At what age did you repudiate the teachings of your family?

Once we know this, we can prepare for the miraculous emergence of social conscience in darling Barbara and Jenna

[Silverhair]

67. It wasn't a sudden thing. It began as a teen, and grew. NT

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[Dorian Gray]

60. People did imply

that they couldn't be good people because of their father. Or am I just missing sarcasm?

[cattleman22]

17. What evil have they done? n/t

[nascarblue]

38. At least with Reagan, Ron and Nancy Jr. were liberals who spoke out...

...against their Dad Ronald Reagan. WHo by the way, had the same guys working for him that are now working for Bush.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

42. Reagan was a democrat for all of his life until he ran for office

[Roachman]

66. That's a myth

Reagan was registered as a Democrat, but that's because it made him fit in better in Hollywood.

[mitchum]

64. What good have they done? n/t

[elehhhhna]

52. Barbara's the smart one and thus more dangerous.

[LisaM]

2. I agree with you

I like Jenna better too. Maybe it's the name?

[mitchum]

62. I find Jenna to be tiresome and banal...

but that may be because I have spent lots of time in southern college towns (places that are lousy with spoiled, drunken, round-faced blondes) :)

[Nikepallas]

4. She's the one who stuck out her tongue

[Verve]

7. Seems like she'll fit in quite nicely with the children then. n/t

[Nikepallas]

12. That's true... BUT I would think parents would want a mature person

teaching their children.


Wait a second will BUSHCO only allow those students who's parents sign loyalty oaths to * into the classroom?

[Verve]

22. I agree with you. Unfortunately we don't have a mature president!

So you can't expect much from his offspring!

[Yuugal]

5. I just wanna strap a rifle and a parachute to both of them

and push them out the door of a cargo plane over Iraq. Now thats supporting the troops! If there are no parachutes available, I say push her out the door anyway because after all, you goto war with the equipment you have, not the equipment you'd like to have, right?

[Menshevik]

9. couldn't agree more. eom

[MessiahRp]

11. LOL

eom

[Johonny]

21. Bingo

I agree. It just shows how hollow their support of the war really is.

If it was Iraq and teaching then maybe I'd give a crap.

[E_Smith]

58. freakin hilarious. nt

[Ellen Forradalom]

6. I've always seen a much sharper look in Barbara's eyes

while Jenna comes across as merely goofy.

[Gothmog]

8. Barbara is the one who attended nude parties at yale

Barabara is no saint. There are stories about her attending a series of nude parties at Yale. Larry Flynt is dying for pictures of these events.

[immoderate]

34. Point in her favor. I like nude parties.

--IMM

[superconnected]

10. oh cool, just like her mom and her grandma Barbara Bush

Gee, think becoming a teacher will help her? I think her 3rd generation fundamentalism will kick in and she may be the last person your want teaching the kids.

How would you feel if Laura Bush or Barbara senior suddenly became your kids elementary school teacher? They both taught when they were around Jennas age.

Worry.

[superconnected]

13. Class today were going to talk about science

There is no science, God created the world. There is no biology. We don't mess with God's creations. We don't do chemistry or research.

okay now let's talk about history - as I see it from my family point of view corporations are the great salvation of all countries and when the people try to over run them and claim their rights, you have destitution.

Next lets cover English - this is so important as my dad never mastered basic English...

Then let's do math - I come from 3 generations of people who couldn't do math. Don't worry I can do addition and multiplication as long as it's not applied to statistics or budgets.

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Sorry folks, I don't trust her...

[TN al]

15. I bet classroom discipline will be a lot easier for her...

...considering she will have a secret service agent to back up her classroom rules.

[geomon666]

16. First...

It's not a public school, it's a charter school.

Secondly, she's a drunken sloppy little girl and people like that don't deserve to be teachers. She's just doing this so she can say for one brief moment in her life, she wasn't a complete sleaze.

[4MoreYearsOfHell]

18. 30 years from now, the eyes will glaze over with that Stepford look,

and she'll say

"I had a REAL job once, you know"...

[theboss]

24. My dad was a drunken, sloppy guy

Until he got his head on straight and became one of the best principals in his state.

But let's judge everyone as they are at 19. That's a good plan.

[immoderate]

33. Point of order. Charter schools are public schools.

--IMM

[MisterP]

19. she already promised to do this in NYC, then backed out

no prize for guessing what happens next

[dogtag]

20. I thought it was the Harlem school that said No Thanks to Jenna.

Get ready for the 'tug at the heartstrings' photo ops of the schoolmarm and her adoring pupils. Yuck.

[rhyfeddu]

23. If Rush Limbastard shouldn't have attack Chelsea...

...We should lay off (even) B*sh's spawn.

And, re: their boozing, partying ways...Don't know about you, but I wouldn't want public record of all the stupid shit I got up to in my early 20's. They're still young. If they're still throwing up in the alley when they're in their 40's, like dear ol' Dad, them you can wag your fingers, and click your tongues... ;)

[MessiahRp]

25. I totally agree.

Sure they campaigned for their Dad but even though he is evil incarnate he is still their Dad and I'm sure all of you would stick up for your pops even if he was an asshole.

Let's let them grow up and mature. I could care less what partying they do, they're young. Chelsea partied, the Bush twins party, the Reagan kids partied and hell I bet the Kerry girls partied at some point too. We almost all do.

Being young is all about irresponsiblity. The only time I think that we shouldn't give them a pass is when irresponsibility turns into murder, ala good ol' Laura.

Rp

[rhyfeddu]

46. Thanks, but..

...explain, please. I'm not getting the reference:


<" The only time I think that we shouldn't give them a pass is when irresponsibility turns into murder, ala good ol' Laura.">


Ta' :)

[MessiahRp]

51. She killed her ex boyfriend in a car crash

When she was a teen. was speeding big time on a dark road, ran a stop sign, killed her ex (oh so coincidentally) and didn't even get a speeding ticket or a warning for causing vehicular homicide.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/e1698.htm

[rhyfeddu]

53. Wow.

Did not know that...thanks for the link...

[gordianot]

27. I hope they have learned to stay away from pretzels.

:toast: :beer: :evilgrin:

[fob]

28. Attacking a 12 or 13 year old girl is WAAYYYYYYYY different than

what is going on here regarding a 22 year old woman who is taking her first job after taking her first job and then blowing it off for a free spin around the good ole US of A on OUR dime to help her daddy*. SHE put herself in the public eye, now you can't whine about her privacy.

[rhyfeddu]

43. So, turn 18, and a target appears on your back, all bets are off?

Whether you've done anything heinous or not? (Except be born in the wrong family?)

Bush is the elected official - he's the legitimate target to attack for policy and presidential ass-holeness. Yes, the twins showed up to wave and crack (bad) jokes during the campaign - did we really expect them to go rogue and come out Dem?? He's an idiot, but he's their DAD.

I'm just saying its classier, and dare I say fairer, to not viciously practice guilt by association to anyone who bears the same name, especially offspring...until they do there own heinous act against the people, and not just the beer bottle...(I would include Mary Cheney on the former).

I'm not saying, either, that the twins are stellar people. I don't know, I've never met them. But neither have you.

And who's whining? :P


EDIT: for directing part of answer to the wrong person! LOL

[fob]

49. No, I'm not saying turn 18 and draw fire. I'm saying a 22 year old who

enters politics (presidential campaigning being the ultimate level) should be unsurprised to draw criticism. However, a 12 year old who happens to live in the White House SHOULD expect privacy.

I don't know about you but I didn't expect them to "go rogue and come out Dem", but they did say before the campaign that they would NOT be on the trail and in fact Jenna had announced taking a teaching job in NYC. She, at least, made a conscious decision to blow that off and tool around with dad. Now I completely understand supporting your own father wholeheartedly, that doesn't mean her father's NOT an asshole, and certainly doesn't releive her of facing criticism. There is also no need for "guilt by association" since her/their actions speak for themselves. They're trailer trash bona fides are supplied by their own conduct, their father's faults notwithstanding.

[rhyfeddu]

57. How can you be "trailer trash" AND privileged brats?? LOL

Well, I guess if "trailer trash" is just a state of mind...tho' I think thats an insult to trailer dwellers, myself.

And I still think their crimes:

1) Being born a Bush

2) Being alleged lushes and "loose women" (ie: young adults)

3) Being spoiled children of privilege

4) Re-neging on NOT campaigning (aggressive flip-flopping!)

5) Telling really lame jokes

6) Liking said Dad, regardless

...does not warrant the raking over the coals, "evil spawn of Satan" hysterical spiel reflected in this thread. Its out of proportion. And seems petty. :shrug:

[mitchum]

29. You are wrong. The chimp's privileged spawn are ADULTS...

while Limbaugh was attacking a 13 year old Chelsea Clinton. There is a difference. The fuckwit twins campaigned for their fascist father and will also inherit great wealth that their family has been looting from the public treasury for three generations. They can go to hell (or Iraq)

[rhyfeddu]

45. Are the Dem kids in a soup line? Have I missed something?

...Being a member of privilage affects all the Dem kids at some point in their lives, too, doesn't it? Their wealth pretty much rivals repugs, usually...Be careful of the standards you espouse...

What wrong with showing a little class?? Having standards of (political) engangement?

[mitchum]

61. The difference is that the Bushes have been enriching their coffers...

at the public trough for three generations. Are you asserting that Democratic political families have been doing the same? Details?

I have no double standard.
YOU can play nice if you choose. It will make the GOP very happy.

[rhyfeddu]

68. If you feel "Anything goes", "Let's play as dirty as the GOP"..

...and feel that you can still be a "white hat" afterwards, then, no, ...we aren't going to find any common ground here.

You lay with dogs, you get back up with Rovian fleas....

My notion of "playing nice", is NOT playing soft. You can fight hard, but fight true and fight fair. Abandoning our values to "save" them has been a logic that has always escaped me...

Do I have details of tainted Democratic dynasties? Not really, tho' I've read Joe Kennedy wasn't lily-white in his business dealings. I don't think that negates the good work his political family has done, but its an example. I don't know how anybody could be in politics and not be compromised to SOME extent. I fear its the nature of the beast. I believe its probably naive to think otherwise, sadly.

But, back to the point of this thread, just how does it promote the Dem party by wasting time sniping at Bush's offspring? How does this further our cause? How is this worthy of us or our time? Just wonderin'...

[Sara Beverley]

26. This job won't last beyond a year. It's designed to take the heat off the

twins and to try to build their image. I wish her luck, but remember, this is a way to build her resume on the name and to make the Bush's look like they really care about disadvantaged children. I just believe it's another political move, sorry.

[Silverhair]

31. Maybe Yes, Maybe No. Let's wait and see. NT

[mitchum]

32. Just like her cousin "the little brown one" George P...

who also taught in the public school system for one freaking year for the same propagandistic reasons.
The concept of true, sincere public service is alien to the entire damn family

[Silverhair]

41. The whole family? W's cousins endorsed Kerry.

That's right. They even had a web site up with their pictures and text asking people not to vote for W.

[B Calm]

30. Why aren't they in the military fighting evil doers?

[samtob]

35. Teaching is a noble profession

I admire everyone making the sacrifice to teach children. (not the highest paying job in case you haven't heard) ;)

As far as Jenna's actions, sticking tongue out at REPORTERS, drinking etc. Personally I can't throw stones, I am not free of college drinking parties....and a little more. To have someone tell me today that I am not worthy of something because I partied in college would be absurd.

[Johonny]

36. Hmm...

Wonder if she'll join the Teachers union.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

56. Terrorist!

[dflprincess]

37. So what happens when a kid throws a spitball at her?

Will the Secret Service wrestle the child to the ground?

[Democracy Died 2004]

44. If anyone can see this for anything more than

a publicity stunt, shame on you.

[ElectroPrincess]

47. Yeah, how long do you think Jenna will slave away in this charter

school before she checks out and lives the "high life" on Daddy's big bucks? Hum, maybe she'll hang for the entire second term but I bet she'll end up dating some ... <trying to scheme like KKKarl Rove> strapping West Pointer or Naval Academy (Marine Option) Graduate freshly home from one or two tours in Iraq.

Yes, Jenna may be * in road to greater support by the military. Jenna just may find herself (be set-up with) a young Military Officer to marry. Man, betcha money that is one of Roves "wet dreams"?

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[utahgirl]

54. Good for you

It would be a bright spot to have her succeed. I wish her well but admit that it would be extremely difficult to endure having my child in her classroom. I'm not sure I'm adult enough to do it.

utahgirl

[SemiCharmedQuark]

55. Political Move.

I believe this is just another political move to mold her into her grandmother's image. She, like her mother and grandmother will play susie homemaker until she marries a millionaire who will then run for some political office.

But hey, I might be completely wrong. If she is doing it for good reasons, more power to her and I wish her well.

[Dorian Gray]

59. That school is an awesome school...

It's a magnet school that I got to visit once when I went to a conference for foundations and non-profit giving in DC. It was only the third year that it was in existance, at the time. (This conference was 7 years ago, give or take a year or two.) They were a really interesting charter school, and it seemed as though their experimental educational system would do wonders in DC.

I'm actually surprised that a Bush girl would get a job there.

[Eloriel]

65. Okay, so now tell us why we should give a damn either way. n/t