Hypothetical.... what if???

[firebee]

If the United Nations placed full sanctions on the United States and if this administration was charged with war crimes and crimes against humanity by the International Court of Justice; Would you take it upon yourself to remove this administration from power by any means necessary?

[Vincardog]

1. I don't know. Why not do it and see?

[ProdigalJunkMail]

2. um...while the hypothetical is interesting

suggesting the potential for armed revolt and questioning the members of this board as to whether or not they would initiate or participate in such a revolt probably won't go over well...

theProdigal

[bryant69]

7. Yep

If such a situation happened we'd have to deal with it--but it's about as likely as mules learning to talk. We sit on the security council--we have a premenant seat.

But i'm certainly not going to commit myself to taking up arms against my fellow citizens.

Bryant
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[firebee]

9. Well, I wasn't talkin about taking arms up against citizens.

I'm just asking if people would feel like they have justification in going to D.C and dragging the members of this administration out of the White House for prosecution. These responses also bring up another point to consider for each individual. What have we become if we don't have enough resolve to enforce the laws of the land because some person has the title of a government position? Have we become so jaded by the laurels of our founding fathers and the other great leaders of this country, that we've forgotten the inevitable destiny of a government unchallenged by the people, that being tyranny?

Anyhow, I wasn't advocating firing shots or taking up arms against citizens. I was suggesting detainment. I for one, could arrange the detainment of our government officials without ever firing a shot if that's ever required. I think too many people jump from working inside our corrupted governmental organization to taking up arms against our government. You don't have to take up arms against people in order to detain them. You just have to be creative.

Besides, if domestic shots ever do get fired.... I can guarantee it will be a freeper firing the first shots. It's just in their nature to be that stupid.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

11. you would have to have armed force to do what you suggest

in paragraph one...and it isn't about resolve...it is about plotting insurrection online. That is why I posted my previous response. You say you aren't advocating firing shots and so forth??? Try seizing members of the administration (who are citizens whether we like it or not) without doing just that. How would you 'arrange' detainment of our officials??? I would like to see that...

theProdigal

[firebee]

14. Plotting????

I'm not trying to organize a military offensive against our own government. I was just asking a hypothetical question. What would you do if the United Nations placed full trade sanctions on the United States and what would you do if you knew the members of this administration had been charged with war crimes and crimes against humanity by the International Court of Justice. At what point does someone's nationalistic pride take a backseat to the laws of the land? Would the people of this country just sit idly by and wait for a world coalition to invade and detain these officials or would we have enough resolve and foresight to save ourselves from a foreign invasion?

[ProdigalJunkMail]

15. asking people 'what would you do?' can easily be seen as plotting

I am not trying to suggest that you want to overthrow our country, but the question as you posed it would open up those who answer to all sorts of potential problems could they be traced...especially in today's society.

Would you do ANYTHING NECESSARY to stop our government in the event of 'X' occuring??? That is a little dangerous to ask...because if the answer is 'yes' then there is legitimate reason (according to the government) to detain YOU. Because arresting our leaders without the law of THIS land calling for it is revolution/insurrection.

Once again...it isn't about resolve. It is about being able to effectively accomplish that of which you speak without arms. Sieze/detain US government officials without the use of armed force? You cannot do it...I guarantee it.

theProdigal

[On the Road]

3. I Would Never Agree to Do Something by "Any Means Necessary"

No one with the slightest moral sensibility would, either.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

4. what do you mean by : "take it upon yourself "?.....I would be careful

nowdays how you frame this kind of question.

[BDG]

5. RE: Hypothetical.... what if???"

:nuke:

[Cleita]

6. I've been saying this over and over.

In order to have the Bush Administration tried for war crimes in the Hague for an illegal invasion of Iraq, a sovereign nation has to bring up charges It can't be an individual. I would think that the EU could do so for endangering their member nations for this act of war, particularly if it could escalate into nuclear war.

[Racenut20]

8. US would veto Security Council resolution

[firebee]

10. I believe the U.S. had it's "veto" authority taken away last year.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

12. ummm...as a permanent member of the security council

your statement is wrong. The veto power of the US within the Security Council remains...

theProdigal

[420inTN]

13. No, they didn't.

The five permanent members of the UN Securtiy Council (US, UK, France, Russia, China) still have their veto power.

There are a couple of proposals to change the Security Council, but they look to expand the Council, not restrict the Council.

[I Miss Bubba]

16. This is dumb

Why ask such a question? No matter how you feel about the chimp and his minions, they were elected by the citizens of this country...that is unless you are still one of the ones who believes he and every other pukelican cheated in every race to win?

Get a grip for pete's sake. This is an open forum. What do you expect people here to admit to?

F-ing Kerry piece of shit. Don't even get me started on that waste of a Democratic ticket. I'm so glad Moveon.org is gonna take over the party and give us a real candidate for next time. I'm tired of getting our asses kicked by Rove.

Sorry for the rant, I'm still pissed as you can tell.