I hate "Stupid" Gun Nuts

[Florida_Geek]

Grrrrr ,,, traveling east on I10 in Mississippi, I saw a bumper sticker that said "Don't Let Kerry steal your Guns from You"

Grrrr.. What lies people will put on their

[EstimatedProphet]

1. There's unfortunately a lot of people that buy into that

I've heard a lot of people that vote only on the gun issue. Nothing else matters to them. If you ask me, that's stupid, and I'm a gun owner.

[hollowdweller]

2. All along Rt 60 here the NRA had these billboards saying

something like" you think Kerry is for sportsmans rights? That dog won't hunt" and then it had a french poodle with pink ribbons on it.

[JHB]

11. The irony is...

...poodles were originally bred as gun dogs: hunter shoots bird, dog jumps into the water to retrieve it.

[EstimatedProphet]

15. I saw that one in PA, outside Pittsburgh

Pissed me off no end. What was worse though, was that I knew it would work on some people.

[Wcross]

3. Should we give up on gun control??

Seems to me it costs us more votes than we gain by pushing gun control. I look at gun control as a State/local issue.

[Borgnine]

4. I'd rather not.

I believe in the Second Amendment, but that doesn't mean I don't believe in gun control. I don't want to give up my ideals to satisfy those who like to stroke their phallus-shaped killing machines at night*

*I'm not talking about the pro-gun people at DU. I'm only referring to the Freeper types who love guns more than anything else (besides hating homosexuals and beating women).

[Wcross]

6. Is that worth the vote?

"I don't want to give up my ideals to satisfy those who like to stroke their phallus-shaped killing machines at night*"


I wonder why gun owners are suspicious of Dems- one minute you have a skeet gun in your hand, the next thing ya know its your penis. Go figure.

[-..__...]

7. CLP is a dual purpose lube.

(Link for the unenlightened)

B-)

I also buy a lot of 10 gauge shotgun cleaning patches (even though I don't own a shotgun ;-) ).

[DS1]

8. CLP is crap, I used Slick50 on my M16 and M9

smooooth ;-)

[immoderate]

9. There is no up side to gun control IMHO

It's a ;oser. Attention should be towards acts, not preventive edict.

--IMM

[JHB]

12. I appeciate your making the distinction...

...but you might want to be more careful about how quickly you whip out the Freudian terminology and comparisons. To a lot of gun owners I know, that would be read as a kick in the teeth followed by a belated "oh sorry, I didn't mean you"

But you do illustrate how regional/social stereotyping is so pervasive on this subject, which is why we desparately need to find different ways to address these issues. The current framing costs us dearly.

[Peak_Oil]

18. What's with the KKK pic?

You're not helping.

There are 80 million gun owners in the US. That's 30% of the population. Please don't alienate 30% of the voters.

We "lost" by 2% this election. If we picked up 10% of the gun owners to the Democrat platform, that would be 3% of the population, and we win.

Last election, we lost the Trifecta. Next election, if we win 10% of the gun owners, we win. Presidency, HR, and Senate.

Please try to be kind.

[DoNotRefill]

19. Umm...

there are 80-100 million legal gun owners in the US. By definition, ALL of them are eligible to vote. That's more than 30%.

There were what, a hair under 120 million votes cast TOTAL in 2004?

[Florida_Geek]

10. If the Dems had a very Pro Gun person,

the NRA is 100% Repug owned and would still attack the Pro Gun Dem.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

13. That's not always the case

Here in the Southwest we have many Dems with better records on guns than the repugs and the NRA always recommends the one with the better gun record. Of course these are just local candidates, so who knows if they would back any national democratic candidate over the republican one.

[DoNotRefill]

20. Not necessarily.

they routinely endorse my US House rep, who is a pro-gun Democrat. He routinely runs against pro-gun Republicans, and they still endorse him over the Republicans.

They actually have an interesting way of deciding who they endorse. Regardless of party, the candidate with the highest NRA rating wins. If there is a tie, with both candidates getting the same rating, they endorse the incumbent over the challenger. Ratings are determined by both votes previously cast and answers given on a survey they send around.

[hollowdweller]

28. Why is my congressman Rahall, a Dem one of the top recipients of NRA $

if the NRA always go for the repub.

[Killarney]

5. Morons.

[jarab]

14. The sad fact is that more

prominent Dems are for extreme gun control measures than are the repugs.
That's why these (types) of bumper stickers are prevalent, and they're "generally" true. I'm so tired of the phallic label. What do we call the extreme anti-gun crowd such as the senior NY senator? Impotent?

The courts only will interpret the Second. Why must we continue to suffer in all other areas by pretending to know what those few words meant? They think they know the true meaning, and so do we. An impasse.
The statistics show we can't win this argument. Why do we offer it?
Extreme gun control is a losing Democratic policy. It's insignificant in the larger picture, as are a few other of our sick projects.
Why do we continuously phuck ourselves by playing this gun control card and becoming pissed when "they" call us on it ?

Face it. We on the left are responsible for attempting gun control legislation beyond what society in general is presently prepared to accept. Can we not accept that we are fighting a losing battle on this issue?

...O...

[karlrschneider]

16. I have a pretty good friend who's a Dem in every way except for this

issue...he was absolutely convinced Kerry would take his guns away (and I have MORE guns than he does)...he wouldn't even listen to me & voted for the goddamn fucking Chimp on that issue alone. And he works for a company that has begun outsourcing work to Mexico...he has already been cut back on hours & lost income but he's so goddamn fucking stupid it didn't seem to have mattered. I have no idea how to deal with such jupiterian stupidity...

[Florida_Geek]

17. And you could ask him

What makes you think Kerry will TRY to take his guns away from him? And wait for an answer, I do not think he will have one.

Also most of these pro-NRA types do not understand that the NRA has a very large list, larger than the Federal govt, of who, Gun owners, and in some cases the guns they own.

[DoNotRefill]

21. Heh...

In the 20+ years Kerry was in the US senate, please list the number of gun control bills that Kerry voted AGAINST.

It'll be a VERY short list.

Kerry fucked himself on this issue. And I don't mean "maybe".

'Member this???



You want to know why so many people thought Kerry was anti-gun? Because he is. And he didn't even TRY to hide it.

I held my nose, bit my tongue, and voted for the man. But not many other gun owners did the same.

[Wonk]

22. You've been bashing Kerry for ages here. Why are you still on DU, again?

Just wondering....

In answer to the original question, is there another kind?

[DoNotRefill]

23. I opposed Kerry's getting the nomination. Once he got it....

I pretty much shut up about it and supported him, since he was the nominee. Now that he's lost, he's fair game once again. And if you think I'm the only DUer that's Tuesday Morning Quarterbacking, I suggest you look around in GDP. Hell, for that matter, talk to people on the street, or ask MM.

[DoNotRefill]

24. BTW...Here's your "ally" bashing a Democratic primary candidate...

http://www.bradycampaign.org/press/release.php?release=491

Do you still think Kerry was more "electable" than Dean???

BTW...Who did Sarah Brady's husband work for again???

[Is It Fascism Yet]

26. ps Its the Son of a Bush who will take our guns, in the end, because

he can't have complete tyranny unless he does, and you know, that's what he wants.

[DoNotRefill]

27. Heh....

that's what's so funny....Look at the big bits of federal gun control laws that have been enacted in the past 30 years.

Banning manufacture of machineguns: Reagan.
Banning imports of chinese guns: Bush 41 (EO).
Banning imports of folding stocks, et cetera: Bush 41 (EO).

Oh yeah, and don't forget....Guliani is RABIDLY anti-gun.

Gun control has always been about disarming the poor and minorities. The ONLY Jim Crow law still on the Federal books and being enforced TODAY is the NFA '34....That law is a cross between a poll tax and a "literacy test", where minorities AUTOMATICALLY FAIL because of the color of their skin.

So why do some Democrats support this kind of class warfare against their core constituencies??? I wish I knew...

[Is It Fascism Yet]

29. good question

[Is It Fascism Yet]

25. boy Condi is ugly! Thanks for the photo, it helps my diet

and don't call those who protect second ammendment rights "nuts" I have been a democrat for 35 years, and I am not a nut, and I do not own a gun, but I am not giving up my right to own a gun. Read some history, disarming the public is always the first order of business in any tyranny.

[DownNotOut]

30. Does gun control

make Dimson a MORE or LESS powerfull pResedent? In theory of course....


DownNotOut