"Message from Above" - Christian and Muslim fundies both agree!

[fujiyama]

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,11832383%255E28477,00.html

AUSTRALIAN religious leaders have interpreted the tsunami as a warning from God.

Leaders from several faiths said the killer waves were caused by God's anger with human immorality.

Anglican Dean of Sydney, Phillip Jensen, said the will of God involved His creation of the world but it also involved His judgment on the sinfulness of humanity.

"Disasters are part of His warning that judgment is coming," Dean Jensen said.

Australian Federation of Islamic Councils chief executive Amjad Mehboob said it could not have happened unless it was God's will.

"Islam teaches that when we do suffer some misfortune, it is what our own hands have wrought, and we must seek the forgiveness of God." (Then victims of 911, bali, Israeli bus bombers etc. 'deserved what they got' will be next argument.)

However, Dr Appupillay Bala, president of the Hindu Council of Australia, said that he did not believe the tsunami was a direct result of God's anger.

"I don't think most Hindus would say that it's a punishment from God. I don't think they'd believe that God would punish us collectively," Dr Bala said.
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I don't get this. I remember Robertson and Falwell saying the same nonsense after 9/11.

I know why they say it. It's all about fire and brimstone in both religions. God is punishing the heathens for an "immoral" lifestyle. It's mostly coming from psychotic fundy preachers (that piece of shit Phelps) in this country or nutcase Islamic fundies. Is this the case with the three major monotheistic religions of notion of blaming the victims? I myself think it's something peculiar to Islam and Christianity.

I'm not saying Judaism, Hinduism, and other religions don't have their extremists. They sure do, but I think the Christian and Muslim fundies are especially similar in many ways.

[RafterMan]

1. The same reason some far-lefties

think it was caused by greedy oil companies or nuclear tests.

[fujiyama]

2. Oh Yeah...

I saw that thread as well...and while it was pretty ridiculous, I don't see the leftists blaming the victims.

[RafterMan]

5. Who gets the blame is incidental

The message is the same -- mankind has transgressed, retribution ensues.

[andjustice4all]

3. Excellent article!

You ended with your comment, "I'm not saying Judaism, Hinduism, and other religions don't have their extremists. They sure do, but I think the Christian and Muslim fundies are especially similar in many ways."

Too true, too true. You also don't find Hindus or Jews using suicide bombing as a tactic. The only thing vaguely similar is when Buddhist monks set themselves on fire in protest, however, they do not take anyone with them when they do that.

[ClintonTyree]

6. I can't guess about the Hindus, but if the Jews...................

weren't allowed to buy unlimited weapons from the United States and the rest of the world, if they weren't given Billions of dollars a year in US aid alone (nobody really knows for sure how much it is), if they were forced to live in the squalor that the Palestinians do,..........you see where I'm going here.
I'm sure the Israeli people would use any tactic available to them to assure they weren't exterminated, including suicide bombs, rocks, or anything else they could use for a weapon.
I think we need to walk a mile in someone else's shoes here before we go making rash generalizations.

[RafterMan]

7. The Tamil Tigers are Hindus

and use suicide bombing as a tactic.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

4. Food for thought..... there are extremists in the military and in high

levels of government as well. I am NOT saying that there is anything to this, however it is some pretty good food for thought. Perhaps our technology is running away from our ability to safely use it... tell me why that is not possible.


http://www.echoedvoices.org/Jan2002/JanHaarp.html
>>One of the problems with this technology is that the frequency needed for earth-penetrating radiation is also within the frequency range that disrupts human mental function and effects the migration patterns of animals that rely on the earth's magnetic field. The location of the HAARP facility near the magnetic north pole is also a cause for concern. Aside from the dangers inherent in creating holes in the protective layer of the atmosphere which shields us from deadly solar radiation, disruptions in the ionosphere at that latitude could produce a wobble in the earth's magnetic field.

Opponents to HAARP claim that, unlike other ionospheric transmitters, such as the one at Arecibo, Puerto Rico, this facility operates at levels that approach the maximum capability of radio frequencies to dissipate and are in danger of triggering runaway plasma processes in the ionosphere.

Further, they claim that the Air Force is using the transmitter to manipulate and disturb human mental processes through pulsed radio-frequency radiation over large geographical areas. They point to the writings of Zbigniew Brzezinski, former National Security Advisory to U.S. President Carter, and Geophysicist J.F. MacDonald, science advisor to U.S. President Johnson, which discuss the use of power-beaming transmitters for geophysical and environmental warfare.<<

[xchrom]

8. then god hates the poor and defenceless?

fundies of every faith are dangerous.
and one more reason to limit the effects of democracy?
who wants to live in a world run by these maniacs?

[devinsgram]

9. Yes , he then punishs the innocents too.

If thats their God, I'm glad I don't have any part in that.

[xchrom]

11. yeah -- if only they left it in theological musings

but they are going to drown themselves and us with it -- if stuff doesn't change soon.
corporations only control christian wingnuts right now --
the oligarchs in their lust for power have laid down with fleas -- the future could be very interesting.

[Neshanic]

12. Extreme Jesus has issues with the lazyand poor. Ask Robertson.

[shadowknows69]

10. A warning would impy we have time to change our ways

why do signs have to mean inevitible doom.

[Dcitizen]

13. St Hildegard was revealed these by God since 12th century

Why dont partisan Evangelists campaign another 20 millions of
* leaflets to deny God's warning or take guns and shoot at tsunami?