Hypothetically: Could Kerry be that one senator who "stands up?"

[WI_DEM]

We all know it only takes one senator to "stand up"--well, John Kerry is a US Senator. Couldn't he stand up and say, "I'm not doing this because I think the outcome will change, but because there is real evidence of voter suppression and problems with voting machines which must be addressed." I'll tell you if he did this it would redeem him in the eyes of many activist democrats.

but

because he is one of the candidates is it against the "rules" that he do so?

Any thoughts.

[rfranklin]

1. Never happen...he would become the most scorned man in America...

The MSM would savage him by reading verbatim every Republican blast fax for weeks on end. Jay Leno and Dave Letterman would savage him (in a humorous manner of course.) Et cetera.

[NV Whino]

2. As far as I know, it's not against the rules

It is, however, unpolitic. Kerry will not be the one... assuming there is one. If all stood up, I think he would be perfectly correct in standing up also.

[HereSince1628]

7. Unpolitic? Stealing an election would be unpolitic

I have faith that if any senator believed that happend they would be on their feet...

So, I think the reason can be sought elsewhere.

More likely no senator, including Kerry, believes there is enough evidence to warrant the move.

Which isn't to say there isn't any evidence. Just nothing that warrants the risk of not winning the challenge.

[Jo March]

3. He'll be in Iraq on the 6th

Being Presidential as opposed to the ape in charge.

[jmatthan]

4. Being a coward and running away from the scene!!

eom

[Jo March]

5. Excuse me? How is going to Iraq being a coward?

I sincerely hope that you are being sarcastic.

[jmatthan]

17. Will he be there without a massive security cover?

eom

[Jo March]

20. I'm sure that he will have as much security as any other

Senator that's gone over there.

Why? What does it matter if he has security or not?

[angrydemocrat]

30. Are you here without massive security cover?

eom

[Jo March]

35. LOL, angrydemocrat, I'm here with a bullshit detector

and the needle is way off the charts!!

[TayTay]

36. It's his day job, dammit

John Kerry is a duly elected Senator from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts with 20 years of experience on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. (He is Ranking Democrat on a few sub-committees for Foreign Relations as well.) This committee is supposed to advise and oversee how the US government conducts it's foreign policy. (I do not see the present committee as actually fulfilling that role, the Rethugs on it believe that any * initiative is a great iniative.) Kerry is attempting to assess how the US military is carrying out their duties in Iraq and is will probably assess how the troops are doing. (Did you hear that he was once in the Navy and had actual combat experience? Might actually come in handy in assessing a war zone, but I digress.)

In short, Sen. Kerry is doing his job and doing what the good citizens of MA elected him to do, oversee the actions of the federal government. You got a problem with Democrats actually overseeing federal functions? I don't think enough of them are doing this. If Kerry comes backs with information and tries to share that information on a national stage, well, so much the better as far as I am concerned.

[Jo March]

40. Hear, hear! Excellent post, TayTay!

He does have a job to do and actually performs his elected duty.

Maybe he should be off somewhere clearing brush?

[Merlot]

8. I like the idea that Kerry will be in Iraq

Being at the corination would be like putting a stamp of approval on the election. But simply not showing up would make him a sore loser.

Being in Iraq makes a statement, and reminds people of this mess.

Smart and subtle move by Kerry, if you ask me.

[jmatthan]

18. Shows he is letting down 50 million voters

eom

[Jo March]

21. Yes, he's SO letting me down by showing his support

of the troops.

But then again, I'm a Kerry supporter and not a supporter of bunnypants.

:eyes:

[angrydemocrat]

31. Sorry Wrong Again

Shows your brain is warped and you can no longer think beyond your nose.

[jmatthan]

37. Thank God I have a nose

unlike all those troops who do not have any!!

Jacob Matthan
Oulu, Finland

[angrydemocrat]

39. All Nose No Brains Obviously

[jazzjunkysue]

19. Amen, Merlot. Smart guy. Lots harder to spend a few weeks in Iraq.

[Merlot]

9. ops, dupe!

So I'll just say again that we need to fight for Kerry, he can't fight this fight bystanding up. We need to fight to get another senator to stand up. Or two, or more.

[angrydemocrat]

29. Coward my ass!

What a fuckin joke! Take the damn blinders off and learn who you are calling a coward. Oh I forgot your another armchair quarterback that likes to sit os their ass and play god, judge, and jury. Your one of those I know it all's , it's my way or the highway, my way way is always right kind of people. Get a life, and don't forget "Opinions are like assholes everybody has one."

[autorank]

10. Good move to be in Iraq. He probably got a majority of the troops!

I'm sure he'll go out and look around, thus showing up bunny pants; and I'm sure he'll be well received.

[nascarblue]

12. Kerry's invested in Iraq

He's part of the corporatocracy. Bechtel, Halliburton

http://www.prisonplanet.com/031404exclusivephotos.html

[autorank]

15. Whatever, he's our guy for now. Heard Perkins on C-Span the other

day. Very chilling. It really turned my stomach to think of that this has been going on "under the radar." I'm surprised the guy is still walking around. I do think that there is a major difference in rapaciousness between factions of the corporate/financial power structure and I have no regrets supporting for and working in behalf of Kerry.

[Jo March]

22. Oh but, autorank, don't you know you shouldn't support Kerry?

After all, he's letting you down by going to Iraq and really really letting you down by having security with him.

:eyes:

[autorank]

33. I'm being double teamed here. Auto will support the Democratic

candidate until it's over. I was a firm supporter, vocal, of Democrats making an issue of voting rights, i.e., verifiable voting (preferably paper ballots for all) from the very start (the primaries). They did not and our leadership earned free passage on the Ship of Fools. It's only a few days anyway. Then we look for national spokesmen/women. I was a Clark guy until he dropped out.

I think your web page is great. I'm book marking it and sharing the site. Keep up the good work.

[Jo March]

34. autorank, I'm with you

I'd rather be with people like you than many of the more vocal people who are on this board tonight, LOL!

I am sick of this defeatist crap and the bullshit that seems to be out tonight.

Glad you like my website. I only had 500 hits until I changed the format to election fraud! :)

[angrydemocrat]

32. ....

[Merlot]

6. Bad idea for both Kerry and us

We need someone to stand up who has nothing to gain except seeing that justice is carried out.

Kerry could stand up, but he would look as bad as rossi does up there in washington state. Except he'd be savaged in a much worse way.

We have to fight this fight for Kerry.

[Jo March]

23. Exactly, Merlot. You are a breath of sane air to this thread

We don't need Kerry to make the stand. It would be stupid for him to stand up and say that he thinks there was fraud. He has the most to gain and wouldn't be taken seriously.

But I guess it's hard for some people to figure that out.

:eyes:

[SoCalDem]

27. Byrd should be the one to do it.. What could they DO to him?

He's old, he's retiring, he's been the MOST vocal agianst *² since he was "installed", so he's the logical one.

He and Fritz Hollings could do it.Probablt the others are too cowed, and interested in their "futures".

[nascarblue]

11. 322

Never happen.

[gratuitous]

13. I'm not sure

That would presume that he wanted to be elected, and since he finished his general election campaign with millions in the bank and lost by just a couple of percentage points, I have lingering doubts about whether he actually wanted to win the election.

[corbett]

14. Nobody Works 100 Hours A Week For 2 Years And Doesn't Want To Win!

The legitimacy of Kerry's presidency will be 1000% higher if he is not the one who challenges. If that were to happen, the cries of, "Sore Loser" would be deafening. No, the tireless volunteers who have invested tons of blood, sweat and tears in the effort to prove indubitably that a massive fraud took place deserve to have the fruits of their labor given a full airing, live on C-SPAN. Let Senator Boxer, Byrd or another patriot light the torch.

Once that happens, Kerry can return from the Middle East riding on a tidal wave of grass roots support, including from the men and women in uniform who voted for him only to have their votes not count!

[Jo March]

25. corbett hits the nail on the head!

I have quite a few people whom I need to put on Ignore.

It's amazing all of the "interesting" comments about Kerry that are popping up the closer we get to the 6th, isn't it?

[DemocracyInaction]

16. From someone who walked away.............and is now back

After the election I walked away (after over 40 years fighting for and with this party) and NOT because of Kerry....but because of these dumb fuckers in this country (may they rot in hell). I watched no news nor read it essentially--a few 'stories' got through. I watched old movies and read. I divorced myself from it all. I've started to come back. John is OVER. No one knows crap about this Ohio election bullshit (I know, I've become one of them). It's OVER. That's all you need to know. And, more importantly, our leaders are OVER IT. Just like they were over it in 2000. Give up the idiotic hope that anything is going to be fought on this front. Kerry will never fight this battle..nor will any of them who is remotely taken as "sane" in this country. You have been fucked. Now ... we need to do what an angry rape viticm does. Work for revenge. Work to get the bastards. No one knows you are there. No one cares. You need to work to bring these vermin down. It's the only thing you have.

[Jo March]

28. As a rape victim, I don't agree with you at all

Revenge? WTF?

Oh, these folks know that I am here. I've called and emailed and faxed them enough. They know that I am here, as they know we all are here!

I won't give into the "revenge" talk. I want reform. I want justice. Revenge? Please. We need to fight for what is right and true. Revenge does no one any good.

[Tacos al Carbon]

24. Hypothetically, Kerry could turn into Wonder Woman

Realistically, it's about as likely that he "stands up" as it is that he will suddenly turn into an Amazonian princess.

[Jo March]

26. Read some of the other posts - Kerry doesn't need to be the one

who stands up. We need other Senators to stand up so that the issue comes to the surface. If Kerry stands up, it makes him look like a sore loser. He has the most to gain from this.

We need for the other Senators to stand up in support of our efforts.

[shiina]

38. from Iraq?