US plans permanent Guantanamo jails

[emad]

Julian Borger in Washington
Monday January 3, 2005
The Guardian

The United States is preparing to hold terrorism suspects indefinitely without trial, replacing the Guantanamo Bay prison camp with permanent prisons in the Cuban enclave and elsewhere, it was reported yesterday.

The new prisons are intended for captives the Pentagon and the CIA suspect of terrorist links but do not wish to set free or put on trial for lack of hard evidence.

The plans have emerged at a time when the US is under increasing scrutiny for the interrogation methods used on the roughly 550 "enemy combatants" at the Guantanamo Bay base, who do not have the same rights as traditional prisoners of war.

A leaked Red Cross report described the techniques used as "tantamount to torture".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/guantanamo/story/0,13743,1382362,00.html

[radwriter0555]

1. I told you so #3898...

Rad is always right.

[emad]

2. Spooky! Any other premonitions for 2005?

[radwriter0555]

8. It's not a premonition, just a rational assertion of the direction this

regime is going.

Just like the stolen elections, 911, invasion of afghanistan, iraq, and soon, Iran; the draft, looting of Social Security and more domestic social spending cuts.

Oh, and look for a hefty tax increase.

[Q3JR4]

3. Can you say internment camp?

This is only a hop, skip, and a jump away from locking up all Arabs in the U.S. a'la WWII.

[emad]

10. The Brits tried internment of terrorists in Northern Ireland and

have extended the experiment to detention of foreign nationals suspected of criminal activity in the UK and abroad since 2001.

The UK's Law Lords recently ruled that this is a gross violation of human rights and should take precendence over national security issues. Pity they didn't take this view during the Cold War when the H Block at the Crumlin Road jail was full to bursting....

Not much political willingness in the UK at the moment to do something about detention without trial, with such successful role modela abroad as Guantanamo...

[midnight armadillo]

4. Our very own gulag!

Add another island and we can write the sequel to the Gulag Archipelago.

[bryant69]

5. Oh I doubt we'll do that

For one thing I doubt anybody in this administration can even spell Archipelago.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[radwriter0555]

9. Right, Guantanamo Bay doesn't really exist. There really aren't

300+ people incarcerated there with no rights, no lawyers, no trials, no charges or humane conditions.

It's all a figment. That could never happen here.

[bryant69]

11. Hmmmmm

Allow me to clarify my position for the joke impaired. I don't think we will rewrite the Gulag Archipelago because the Bush Administration is too stupid to spell the word Archipelago. That's a joke (although the second part may well be accurate). Of course I know that people are being held illegally in Guantanamo Bay.

[bloom]

6. The Washington Post had an article about Senator Lugar

denouncing this. Now if the Dems would - with a few more Republicans - that would be a start.

Of course - the CIA (& whomever) goes ahead and does what it wants anyway....

[Liberal In Texas]

7. Didn't these used to be called Concentration Camps?

[Moderator]

12. duplicate

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2896583