I'm a little disappointed in the Big Dawg

[Stinky The Clown]

My admiration for the Big Dawg is pretty solid, but this thing with him and Bush and the old man has me a little pissed. I would have far preferred that Big Dawg do something on his own, independent of Chimpus Khan.

All he's been asked to do is play bag man to raise a few bucks from fat cats. In the end, King Khan will win more than anyone (See, when you're a statesman, you send men to the states. Its what statesmen do ... snort snort.) And by doing so, he takes the "all Bush all the time" face off it (Chimpus, Jebbie and Poppy)

My preference would have been for the Big Dawg to go it alone with his own organization.

How about this? The Big Dawg calls his own network of fat cats for support. And he sends Wesley Clark, a guy who helped in a similar (but far smaller) effort after the Turkey earthquakes during Clinton's term, to the Indian Ocean region to do some first hand look-see and needs assessment.

Who could possibly fault such an experienced NGO? And it totally undermines King Khan's bullshit family effort.

Any one else thinking like this? Anyone else pissed at Clinton for this one?

[demnan]

1. No

When the President, no matter how illigitmate, gives you a task to help mankind you take it.

There is no way he could have refused to do this.

[donheld]

30. If Bill Clinton had said no

Karl Rove would have found great pleasure in telling the world Clinton refused to help giving aid to Tsunami victims.

[Be Brave]

2. I look at it this way. Bush has bungled the initial response to the

disaster so well that they need damage control. And what better damage control for them than Clinton? I don't think this is lost to many people.

[Inland]

25. Generally, the above responses say:

1. You have to worry about the victims first; and
2. Giving Clinton a high profile save the world mission may be good Bush damage control, but it also points out that Bush is doing nothing but damage control and shoving the problem off on people who are willling to work in the days between Christmas and New Years Day.

[andyhappy]

3. those people need all the help they can get!

not everything needs to be so partisan.

[soleft]

4. 3 words

Kofi Annans Successor

[mattclearing]

5. I don't know about him anymore.

It seems like he is quite a team player for someone who was locked in mortal combat with right-wing for most of his career. You'd think he'd be less interested in helping the Bushes learn responsibility and more interested in fixing his own Party.

[Pirate Smile]

14. I think he wants to help all the people hurting on the other side of

world.

Plus, Presidents and ex-Presidents always stick together to some degree. I think it must be that Statesmen role they learn.

I don't count on Bush Jr learning it though. He just doesn't match up with the rest - even the ones we didn't like or who were one-termers. He is in his own league.

[tx_dem41]

17. Or he's a team player for a very worthy cause. n/t

[TheDebbieDee]

6. I'm sure that Big Dog knows that the * admin and MSM.....

would rake what is left of his reputation over the coals if he didn't help out with this humanitarian effort. Besides, W still has egg on his ugly face from last week when President Clinton beat him to the punch in expressing his sorrow over the disaster.

All in all, Clinton has the better rep as a global humanitarian whereas W (the War for prfit president)would surely be called the sorry, photo-opportunist that he really is!

He's not doing it for the bushes, he's doing it for the people that truly need help.

[LisaM]

7. Don't worry. In two weeks, Bush Sr. will be back playing golf

and Clinton will still be there working on relief efforts. The * family work ethic is not exactly one of the long-term variety.

[babylonsister]

8. I'm not angry w/Clinton, either.

This is a worldwide crisis. Any help that any of us can give is needed. That includes Clinton.

[Maat]

9. I'm going to be honest.

I lost quite a bit of respect for Big Dawg when he asked John Kerry to support those very hateful 'marriage amendments' to individual state constitutions, that would have impacted civil-unions/domestic-partnerships very negatively, as well as precluding same-sex marriage. Nothing is worse than doing that.

It also made me sick to see the Big Dawg say, 'Am I the only one that likes Bush ' at his library ceremony.

I'm not liking this DLC business right now. Not one dang bit.

[truebrit71]

16. When he made that statement he wasn't referring to W.....

....hehehehehehehehe :evilgrin:

[flpoljunkie]

20. I agree. No need to rub elbows with BFEE to help tsunami victims!

And, I too, was enraged to learn that Clinton was urging Kerry to support the marriage amendments. Sounds like something Dick Morris would have recommended. I find Clinton's relationship with Dick Morris utterly disgusting.

I really wonder about a man who can say "Am I the only one that likes Bush." What is there to like about the man? He is a crude and callow man, not fit to be President.

[tnlefty]

10. One bright spot could be the freepers' heads exploding 'cause

their beloved Chimp has asked Clinton to help.

[hickman1937]

11. I have a question.

Who do you think is smarter? Clinton or Rove? Who's using who? My money is on Bill Clinton.

[Ironpost]

26. My money is on the Big Dawg also

he'll chew up and spit out karl r*ve. Mr Clinton has the intellect to resurrect his name and I think he will have something to do with the fall of the * regime. At this point he has nothing to lose. Do I hear U. N. on the waves... yes

[Pirate Smile]

12. This isn't about Bush. It is about helping people. This is the broadest

and most far reaching way Clinton can do it.

We need to not make everything about Bush.

It is nice to see our soldiers helping people too. Don't let Bush contaminate everything.

Pick your battles. God knows he gives us plenty of openings. Who would have thought he would screw the beginning of this disaster relief up so badly.

[JHB]

13. It would have made Clinton look petty to refuse.

The real mark of "character" is that Chim-Chim had to include Poppy (but not Jimmy Carter) because Gawd-forbid it's actually successful: Can't let those people take the credit...

[underpants]

15. Plus he is a great fundraiser-lots for the 9/11 families

he and BobDole spoke all over the country and raised boo-koo dollars for the 9/11 families.

[flpoljunkie]

21. Was Jimmy Carter asked and/or did he turn Bush down? Anybody know?

[Bridget Burke]

18. Clinton was right to take this opportunity.

He can actually do some good. And he'll make the Bush boys look even worse.

[Hunter_1253]

19. We should embrace this.

Clinton is blamed by the RW for everything from the deficit, to the economy, to the war on terrorism, and to declines in moral values. Now, the Hero of the RW, El Chimpy II, has picked the Clenis to co-head his relief fund. The nutty fundies and fat cats will blow a blood vessel trying to figure this one out, and it will thin their numbers for the 2008 election.

[cags]

22. Clinton is the true uniter

[La Lioness Priyanka]

23. clinton is a politician to the core.

and this is a win-win situation for him. we can hardly fault him for wanting to help victims, neither can they....and he is showing that bipartisanship is still possible.

[librarycard]

24. It took Junior three days to respond to the catastrophe

When Clinton responded for him, the Bushies jumped all over him. Clinton probably gave them an ultimatum: either join me in this worthy cause or get your ass out of the way.

Certainly, Chelsea would have been pushing "Dad" to take action when the Chimp did nothing.

[Annus Horribilis]

27. I Don't See Anything Wrong With This

I think it shows an united front. Two former opponents come together to help the victims. I don't know why anybody would be pissed at President Clinton.

[The Gigmeister]

28. President Clinton is a Statesman...

...And God knows we could us a lot more of that!!

This was a great move and will help people. There are sometimes that politics need to be set-aside.

Your disappoinment in him is unwarranted and a bit disgraceful considering what he's trying to do.

[hel]

29. Clinton came himself after the earthquake in Turkey

and he, Hillary and Chelsea actually visited survivors in devastated cities. The most memorable moment came when he, at some point, against all the protests of his bodyguards, hugged a little Turkish baby and played with her for a while. I still have the pictures of it. That meant a lot to Turkish people, and had caused probably the most pro-American sentiment the Turkish public ever felt.

Compare that to when Bush visited Istanbul during NATO convention this summer. He accepted to shake hands with a minister only after a CIA agent checked out the hand of the guy for weapons or anything. I thought that was the lowest point a president of USA could reach.

Edit: Here's the picture

[TexasSissy]

31. I agree.

[0007]

32. No, Clinton did the right thing or Rove would have buried him.