real feminists

[undergroundpanther]

Feminists in america wringing your hands over Roe vs Wade..read THIS:

http://www.faklen.dk/en/the_torch/vd.shtml

Get some teeth...make some changes.

[bloom]

1. I don't know about "real feminists..."

but it is interesting. It makes me wonder about what's going on in Denmark.

Someone recently was holding Denmark up as an example because they have such open (and extreme) pornography and prostitution as if that is good for society - esp. the women. (Maybe it isn't).

On the one hand - I think the idea of groups of women banding together to protect each other - strength in numbers is a good one - where necessary. On the other hand - some of it sounds like vigilantism.


This was interesting:

»Don't put up with being told to stay at home because men commit rape.« And to the men: »We call upon all men to – as a gesture of solidarity – stay home at night, or only go out accompanied by a woman after eight o'clock in the evening, until all women can move freely.«

[La Lioness Priyanka]

2. so women who dont like physical confrontations

arent really feminists?

[undergroundpanther]

4. Physical confrontation is one part of a big problem

Phyical confrontation may be nessary at some point in ones life,or it might not.You are sole the determiner of what you feel you must do.
And you are responsible for the results.

I would attack a rapist as viciously as I could ,and fight and hurt him if he attempted to assault me.Because I refuse to be assaulted by someone who thinks he is entitled to take what is not his,(MY body).


Too often those who phyicially dominate others go unconfronted because the would be challengers are afraid of confrontation.
And so authoritarians are led to assume thier domination is ok because no one challenged it and they gather power to themselves and it becomes harder to challenge authoritarians when they make social systems and get entrenched into the way society is made..

A challenge to a dominator's rule is different thing all together than being a dominator and thinking the world is your oyster.

If a challenge to a power grab is raised to preserve equality from a dominator's impositions of power-over others ,Sometimes the bully esclates things,so it can be a physical confrontation if nessary.
That does not mean non phyical confrontations are not good to use too.
Each person deals with authoritarians in the ways that work best for them in a given situation,and they own the results.

An authoritarian confronts people for a very different reason than challengers to power.Authoritarianss bully non domineering people to control them,abuse or use them,and a dominator uses force to get his way,to reinforce the hierarchical game, to stop equality and peace from happening between different people,a pluralistic cooperative social arrangement is one the authoritarian can't stand because he is not in control of it..
Sometimes you do have to knock a person who is an abuser off a self made pedistal lest authoritarianism gets a social sanction by challenger's inaction.

This is why Bush won.I think.

[shondradawson]

3. Arm Every Woman In America

for security against rape, sexual assault, domestic/social violence and/or abuse, child molestation, and the protection of her reproductive rights.

I have always believed it will be the Second Amendment of the Bill of Rights above any other that will ultimately be the determining factor to asserting women's freedom and equality in this nation.

Arm the women in America: only then can will this country know for sure what women are 'willingly' or 'consentually' being exploited and who indeed are not.

If a woman is treated in what is presently seen as a "highly questionable manner," with a gun in her hand, then the treatment will no longer be put under question or controversy.

Socitey will leave her to her right to be treated how she truly wants to be treated...see how that works?

A armed woman will give the best representation of what women truly want, truly need, and truly are, each and every individual of them , yet among each other, to then be recognized and considered, in truth..for the truth, by the truth...

[Jesus H. Christ]

5. Ah, I see Charles Bronson was a real feminist.

I didn't know.