Just some food for though in what we are dealing with the right

[secedeeconomically]

Just found this "Winner" of a site

http://www.tothepointnews.com/welcome.php?partner=WND

Wich lists the following proclamations. This the true belifes of the right:

It is envy that makes a Communist, Nazi, or Moslem Terrorist. It is the fear of being envied that makes a liberal.

Liberalism is not a political philosophy or coherent set of beliefs. It is a psychological strategy to avoid being envied.

All forms of leftism and liberalism are based on an atavistic belief in Black Magic. All are based on the primitive fear of the envious Evil Eye.

Islam, including the biography of Mohammed and the text of the Koran, was invented in the centuries after the Arab Conquest as a religious rationale for Arab imperialism.

"Mohammed" is not a name, it is a title meaning The Praised One. His real name was Ubu'l Kassim and he did not come from Mecca. He was a bandit chieftain from what is now southern Jordan.

Saudi Arabia, just like the Soviet Union, is a colonial empire within its own borders. It will break apart just as did the USSR.

China is busy surrounding itself with countries capable of aiming nuclear missiles at it.

China is in very serious economic jeopardy, summarized by the Three No's: No water, no wives, no banks. The entire financial and banking system of China is facing collapse.

The economic collapse of China will precipitate an attack on either Taiwan or Russia (to seize the Primorski Krai in Siberia which once was China's) as an attempt to overcome economic disaster by appeals to jingoistic Chinese nationalism.

Russia is doomed as a culture due to its inheritance of Mongol concepts of justice and equality.

The only Americans who owe reparations to the descendants of slaves are the descendants of slave owners. These people are one and the same, i.e., American blacks are a racial mix of white slave owner and black slave. Blacks owe reparations to themselves.

The next insanity to come in the homosexual assault on the American Family will be PHM: Polygamous Homosexual Marriage. Pathologically promiscuous homosexuals will consider their "marriage" a legalism that will in no way prevent them from adultery en masse. To maintain the pretense of "marriage" however, they will have to quickly begin agitating for the legalization of group sodomization as "just another form of the married life-style".

The "Original Jurisdiction" clause in the Constitution (Article III, Section 2, Clause 2) offers a way to quickly obliterate Roe v. Wade and teach the Supreme Court a lesson it badly needs to learn: to never again invent non-existent rights in The Constitution.

If you have read to this point, pleas tell me how we reach a middle ground with these whack jobs?

[Danocrat]

1. I want to go live in a parallel universe

The one where Al Gore was elected to a second term

[MadHound]

2. Well, judging by these meanderings that you post,

What is desperately needed is some serious education in both our nation's history, and world history in general. There are several factual errors that this person has put up. The first paragraph at the site you linked to betrays their need for historical accuracy, to wit: " One downside of living in the Information Age is having to swim and drown in oceans of information. People don't want an ocean. They want a glass of water. That's To The Point™ - distilled information - critical to your life ... your investments ... and your understanding of the world." After browsing the site, I've come to the conclusion that this is just another point in the RW echo chamber, spreading lies and disinformation, or as they euphimisticly put it, "distilled information"

The sad thing is that these people can get away with such bald faced lying. It is a statement of how badly our education system has been dumbed down when these people aren't called on such flat out lies such as "Islam, including the biography of Mohammed and the text of the Koran, was invented in the centuries after the Arab Conquest as a religious rationale for Arab imperialism."(the wave of Arab conquests didn't start until after the introduction of Islam). Or this laugher, "Russia is doomed as a culture due to its inheritance of Mongol concepts of justice and equality. "(hint folks, Russia's main historical influence has been European culture, not Asian culture, read up on Peter the Great and Ivan the Terrible, also note the Westernization that even Lenin promoted). The list of historical errors is a long one.

I run into a great many people like this living in Missouri, and my plan is simple, hit them hard and quick with the historical reality, a quick five minute history lesson, let them mull that over for a couple of days, and then come back and see if their outlook has changed. Most of the time it cracks a little, so the next step is to start hammering at that weak spot until they realize that their belief system is based on disinformation and lies. When that point is reached they start hungering for the truth, and I start feeding it to them.

Some people refuse to change though, despite the truth slapping them in the face. They may acknowledge that they've based their outlook on false information, but they still refuse to change, for they have come to be comfortable with their false reality, and don't want to give up that security. These people are much tougher, if not impossible, to change. Thus I put these people on a lower priority, or give up on them entirely. Some people just don't want their bubble burst, no matter how foolish they look.

But always, always, the best thing you can hand people is the truth. Sad to say, a lot of conservatives are being blinded by lies. It is what this misadministration is building it's house on, and sooner or later, it is what will cause this misadministration to fall.

[noonwitch]

3. He makes some interesting points about China, but is otherwise full of it

The lunacy really shows in the last few paragraphs.

I do think China will eventually collapse due to their own policies. The regime there has no sense of justice, commits acts of brutality and doesn't care if they happen on international live tv, and has engaged in a family-planning by government order policy that has led to a serious gender balance problem in younger generations. On top of that, I highly doubt that the people of Hong Kong, after years of being part of the British Empire, are very happy about being under chicom rule.

It is a concern for world stability-how will the regime respond to the problems that their policies have caused? Will they invade or try to invade neighboring countries like Taiwan? How do we respond to such an action with a nation that has a large nuclear arsenal?

[jdots]

4. " where are the fresh new comics coming from ? "

I love the envy rant,That will wow them in Branson

[Gman]

5. You cannot reason with the insane

so there is no possibility whatsoever of reaching any middle ground. Compromise rests on reason. The insane do not have the ability to reason.

[bryant69]

6. Yes, but the logical next question is what are these shmoes

representative of? This strain of conservatism is probably not something we can ever reason with, but does that apply to all strains of conservatism?

I'd say christian fundamentalist conservatives we have no shot with, but other groups we will have to work with to a certain extent--at least in the sense that we can talk with them.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Gman]

8. The only real way to handle this type of irrational insanity

is the way we handled Nazism in the 1940's. It won't be any easier now than it was then. In fact it will likely be much harder being that the fight will be here on our own soil. But this type of fascism must be eradicated and banned just as it is now in Germany.

[BiggJawn]

7. We reach a "middle ground"...

...by ridiculing and spitting at them.

I have a "fear of being envied"???? Bullshit.

"All forms of leftism and liberalism are based on an atavistic belief in Black Magic. All are based on the primitive fear of the envious Evil Eye"

Funny, I thought that was the basis for Fundamental Christianity. All that majical thinking and mumbo-jumbo.

Didn't heterosexual suburbanites invent the practice of "Wife Swapping"?

Ridicule and marginalize them. Laugh at them. Run against them and ridicule them when they run for school board or town council. Make it trendy to "bash" Fundies. get your friends to do it. Fuck all the "Kumbaya" talk and "reaching out". Stop trying to be Van Dreissen from Beavis and Butthead.

[underpants]

9. WOW they really have China pegged

China is in very serious economic jeopardy, summarized by the Three No's: No water, no wives, no banks. The entire financial and banking system of China is facing collapse.

Uh-huh