Yesterday I posted thoughts on Torture - My wife agrees with the DU Response

[Wisc Badger]

she told me that torture was never justified, my son and daughter also agreed with her, and by extension you kind responders here at DU.

Thank you everyone for your well reasoned and well worded response to my thoughts, I really super enjoy the site for discussion and comments.:bounce:

[Cuban_Liberal]

1. Glad to have you here, Wisc Badger!

:hi:

[riverwalker]

2. I missed the thread

but it has been a topic of discussion in my family as well. I like to recommend the movie "Judgement at Nuremburg" about the trials of Nazis that led to the Geneva Conventions. Many don't know how the Geneva Conventions began or that they based upon the Nuremburg principles. The courtroom arguments by the lawyers are fascinating (Spencer Tracy) and the ethical and moral liabilities are all something we need to review. They are not "quaint and outdated" as Gonzales says, but living and vital and sound.
I am no longer speaking to some in my family who justify torture. I just can't stomach the fact that people in our lives would so easily become the war criminals we once condemned.

[mcscajun]

4. Yesterday's thread...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2902527

[mcscajun]

3. Nice of you to follow up.

I'm glad you're here. :)

[annabanana]

5. thanks!

So now you'll know what DU is REALLY about when faux news trashes us "lefty wacko conspiracy theorists"

[diamond14]

6. Nuremberg Trials web site link.....bush* GUILTY of WAR CRIMES

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/imt/jack02.htm

American Justice Jackson, on War Trials Agreement; August 12, 1945

"We must make clear to the Germans that the wrong for which their fallen leaders are on trial is not that they lost the war, but that they started it. And we must not allow ourselves to be drawn into a trial of the causes of the war, for our position is that no grievances or policies will justify resort to aggressive war. It is utterly renounced and condemned as an instrument of policy."


Judgement : War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity

MURDER AND ILL-TREATMENT OF PRISONERS OF WAR
Article 6 (b) of the Charter defines war crimes in these words:

" War crimes: namely, violations of the laws or customs of war, Such violations shall include ,but not be limited to, murder, ill-treatment or deportation to slave labour or for any other purpose of civilian population of or in occupied territory, murder or ill-treatment of prisoners of war or persons on the seas, killing of hostages, plunder of public or private property, wanton destruction of cities, towns, or villages, or devastation not justified by military necessity."

[gratuitous]

7. Nice follow-up post

Gee, I wonder why these sorts of threads at DU never seem to make it to the mainstream media when they're telling everybody about what sort of posts are made here?

It's a puzzler, it is.

[ArkDem]

8. Then why is marriage legal?