CIA exec director: "We're better off with bin Laden free!"

[Bluebear]

Another day in Bushworld! Maybe this is why there is a sudden drop in "chatter" coinciding with the recoronation!

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THE world may be better off if Osama Bin Laden remains at large, according to the Central Intelligence Agency’s recently departed executive director.

If the world’s most wanted terrorist is captured or killed, a power struggle among his Al-Qaeda subordinates may trigger a wave of terror attacks, said AB “Buzzy” Krongard, who stepped down six weeks ago as the CIA’s third most senior executive.

“You can make the argument that we’re better off with him (at large),” Krongard said. “Because if something happens to Bin Laden, you might find a lot of people vying for his position and demonstrating how macho they are by unleashing a stream of terror.”


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1431539,00.html

[imenja]

1. Unbelievable

I suppose that's how Tenet excuses his astounding incompetence. And Bush gave the bozo the medal of freedom. We really are in an alternate universe.

[shawcomm]

11. Yep.

Just unbelievable bullshit coming from these people. They evidently think we're just going to eat up any lie, no matter how big and outrageous.

Pieces of shit, every last one of them.

Like John Snow a while back, coming out and insulting those who've lost their jobs by telling them it is just a 'myth'. Can you believe that, telling some poor guy who is scrounging to feed his family that his empty pockets are a mere figment of his imagination.

These disgusting bushies, all having grown up with nary a struggle, tell the rest of us to suck it up and sacrifice. Well, dammit, we've sacrificed enough for this right-wing bullshit.

[OffWithTheirHeads]

2. unfortunatly, very believable

Bush is nuts and anything can happen on his watch.

[BayouBengal07]

3. Geez, thats worse than

the "good thing we're fighting the terrorists over in Iraq instead of here" argument!

[Bluebear]

7. And the flock sucks up that 'logic' too n/t

[imenja]

13. though that one is clearly mentally retarded

I got furious hearing it during the election, and even more question that the media didn't challenge Bush on that idiotic notion.

[Bouncy Ball]

4. So, um,

that same "logic" could have been applied to keeping Saddam Hussein in place prior to our invasion and attack of Iraq, right?

[beam me up scottie]

5. EXACTLY what I was thinking!

also interesting:

--snip--
"Krongard also acknowledged that the CIA was still having trouble planting spies in Islamic militant ranks. “There are hundreds and hundreds of (Al-Qaeda) cells — it’s like a living, moving bit of protoplasm,” he said."

Gee, I thought * said we had all but wiped out Al-Qaeda.

[beam me up scottie]

6. dupe

[imenja]

14. only in Saddam's case it made sense, as present circumstances demonstrate

:nuke:

[pa28]

8. 10 out of 10 terrorists agree.

Bush for President.

[buddysmellgood]

9. Okay, maybe... but can we convince people that Jesus wasn't tortured?

[Elwood P Dowd]

10. We are better off with Hitler in power

some real bad guy might take his place. And, Prescott will make less money.

[JDPriestly]

12. What logic!

Keep Bin Laden in power so he can inspire, organize, fund and spawn even more terrorist organizations around the world. Yes, when Bin Laden goes, regardless of the cause, his followers will wreak mayhem on the world. But, wouldn't it be better if they did it now, before Bin Laden organizes them into a huge army, rather than later, when their ranks have swollen in the aftermath of Iraq and who knows what is next. Same old CIA -- incompetent and dishonest.

The longer Bin Laden stays free, the less safe we are. Catching him and bringing him to justice should be the CIA's and military's number one priority.

It doesn't make sense that Bush would imprison Bin Laden's chauffeur and other minor figures at Guantanamo and not go after Bin Laden. I'd like to think Krongard's stupid statement is just a ruse to cover up the fact that the CIA has Bin Laden's hideout bugged. But that would just be wishful thinking.

[The Backlash Cometh]

15. Porter Goss goes in and the CIA makes a major flip-flop.

[FlyByNight]

16. Does this "logic" apply to other mass-murderers?

Pure Orwell. :puke:

[judy]

17. Let's not forget that "Buzzy"

is the guy who is supposed to be involved with trading the put options on UAL and American Airlines and AXA insurance with the Deutschebank.

Oh, how I wish all this stuff came out about 9/11!!

[femme.democratique]

24. EXACTLY! Spitzer might wind up investgating this....

...he's reviewing the case, but it is well within his right to investigate this as the "entry point" into exposing what really went on with 9/11. This may be the thing that breaks it wide open and good ol Buzzy is right smack dab in the middle.

[DemonFighterLives]

26. Poor Buzzy must be having a tough time collecting

I suspected all along that "they" never wanted to get Osama.

[Eric J in MN]

18. UBL and the Taliban leader are seeking a nuclear bomb to

use against us.

[proudbluestater]

19. The regime most definitely wants him free

The better to whip up neverending fear among its sheeples.

[Hippo_Tron]

20. Personally I think that OBL would be better of with a bullet in his head

Call me old fashioned, but somehow I don't think that the world's most influential and powerful terrorist alive and free is a good thing.

[TWiley]

21. We would hate to piss off the Bin Laden family.

They would raise hell at Carslyle Group board meetings, and embarasss their investment partner george hw bush-turd at the meeting.

[cosmicdot]

22. where's the wrath from the Radical Republicans over this?

are the Freepers good with this?
is this supporting our troops?
is this "homeland security"?
is the Democratic Leadership all over this? where is give'em hell Harry Reid? is his War Room on this like fleas on a dog?

we know what would happen if (and, it wouldn't) these words came out of the mouth of an anti-BFEE person

heck, give him a Presidential Medal of Freedom, Shrub

personally, I'm not convinced that Osama is alive ... I'm trying to understand how someone with kidney dialysis needs can survive without proper care and facilities ... the Bush** handlers are good with "myths"

[Bluebear]

27. You pose excellent questions, all of them. nt

[amazona]

23. they are without shame

Jail them all, this is inexcusable that they would let the killer of 3,000 walk free because it makes their job easier that way.

[Deja Q]

25. Replace OBL? Or sit aside of him? This CIA chap is a total twonk.

The CIA dolt is either a * shill or utterly stupid; it took them 3+ years to see the BLOODY OBVIOUS?

Forgive me. I ain't happy right now.

[erpowers]

28. This is Already Happening

First, there have already been numerous terrorist attacks around the world with OBL still at large. Therefore, his being at large has not prevented any terrorist attacks. Second, it seems as if another leadership has already formed within Al Queda. The U.S. government has admitted that there are about 16 new members who may have assumed leadership positions in Al Queda.

However, I do thing that OBL at large is good for a group of people. It is good for Bush and the neocons. As long as OBL is at large they will be able to use the threat of terrorist attacks as reasons to invade other countries.

[Ganja Ninja]

29. Who's WE?!?!?!

One things for sure. If four years from now if Bin Laden isn't dead the Democrats should be able to beat the Republicans silly over it. Of course they should have been able to use it against them this time. But the voters in this country are pretty much Homer Simpson like in their ability to make rational decisions.

[flobee1kenobi]

31. This makes me want to vomit!

UBL takes out the twin towers, but thats ok?
Cuba aims missiles at us and gets santioned for decades

WTF IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE????
We lost 3000+ people before noon-and Its GOOD that he is still a free man?

[Sparkly]

30. That is crazy!!!

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

Does this mean we're "better off" not even trying to capture him? So ARE we trying to capture him? Unbelievable!!

[Cocoa]

32. thank you, President Bush!

for keeping us safe by not capturing Osama.

[HootieMcBoob]

33. How very convenient

It's nice that W is doing his old business partners the Bin Laden family the favor of not capturing their son.

The Bush administration's loyalty to its business partners the Bin Ladens and the Saudi royal family is a whole lot stronger than its loyalty to the citizens of the United States of America.

[adigal]

34. Bushies can use him for fear

As long as bin Laden is free, Bushie et al can use him for fear, as the did 3 days before the election. So, of course, they are much better off with him not caught.

[bejammin075]

35. I swear - closer to 1984 every day.

Freedom for terrorists?! WTF! They don't have to spin this on Rush and Hannity because they won't mention it.

Failure is Success.
Contratidtion is Consistency.

[Liberal In Texas]

36. Now that's SPIN !

I wonder if the relatives of the victims of 9/11 feel that way.

[SittingBull]

38. Krongard?

the same Krongard who was Vice-president of Alex Brown, the organisation behind the never searched smoking gun of 9-11 insider trading?

[StephanieMarie]

37. Up is Down. Hate is Love, War is Peace. n/t

[yella_dawg]

39. The CIA is better off with bin Laden free...

I still haven't seen anything that convinces me bin Laden isn't still a CIA asset. Hell, they don't need to infiltrate al Queda, they run the damned thing.

[outrage]

40. "We're better off [i]politically[/i] with Bin Laden free"...

That way we can keep the red-state fundie troglodytes shaking in their collective boots. F'idiots.

[scarletwoman]

41. Nice to know they won't turn on their old asset and business partner.

Why, it's almost downright NOBLE!

For those who have not delved into the players in the shadows, here are some things you should know:

A bit of Krongard's employment history

<snip>

General Musharraf becomes leader of Pakistan in a coup. One major reason for the coup is the ISI felt the previous ruler had to go “out of fear that he might buckle to American pressure and reverse Pakistan's policy the Taliban.” Shortly thereafter Musharraf replaces the leader of the ISI, Brig Imtiaz, because of his close ties to the previous leader. Imtiaz is arrested and convicted of “having assets disproportionate to his known sources of income.” It comes out that he was keeping tens of millions of dollars earned from heroin smuggling in a Deutschebank account. This is interesting because insider trading just prior to 9/11 will later connect to a branch of Deutschebank recently run by “Buzzy” Krongard, now Executive Director of the CIA (see September 6-10, 2001). The new Director of the ISI is Lt. Gen. Mahmood Ahmed, a close ally of Musharraf who is instrumental in the success of the coup. {Guardian, 10/9/01} Mahmood will later be fired after suggestions that he helped fund the 9/11 attacks (see October 7, 2001 (B) ). (my emphases)

In case you are not aware, it was the brokerage division of Deutschebank through which most of the pre-9/11 "put options" were traded. Prior to Krongard's CIA position, he was the director of this division.

Look up the connection between the CIA) and Wall Street. Here's a start: http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-overclass.html , you can research from there...

And if you don't know about the pre-9/11 "put options" (thanks to the SCLM {"so-called liberal media"} quickly deep-sixing the story when the uncomfortable implications began to be apparent), then please just type "9/11 put options" into google and educate yourself.

For a little more background on Deutschebank, see this:
Where The Narcodollars Go http://erippy.home.mindspring.com/Where_the_NarcoDollars_Go.html . (And remember to dig a little deeper into the whole BCCI affair and the connections to the Bush family when you have some spare time...)

And in case you're not familiar with the between the connections between the CIA and the international drug trade, here's a good overview:
The Real Drug Lords - A brief history of CIA involvement in the Drug Trade by William Bum
http://www.serendipity.li/cia/blum1.html

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Understand, this article is showing up in a British paper, this story will be buried in the U.S. press. This is a signal to the global ruling elite, as well as to the Islamic world. One would do well to ponder on the deeper levels of power that are involved here...

sw

[David Zephyr]

42. Bush Could Have NEVER Sold the Iraqi War With A Captured Bin Laden

Think about it.

Had Osama been captured when the U.S. had the best chance to do so and failed to, the Bush Cabal could have never sold waging war to the American People.

Bush needed Osama free to have his war in Iraq.

[scarletwoman]

43. Krongard calls OBL a "venture capitalist"...

Can there be any clearer signal that Osama is just another player in the "rule the world" game?

Think, dearies.

sw

[teryang]

44. Remember the "airlift of evil" from Kunduz?

Airlift of Evil-Michael Moran MSNBC

NEW YORK, Nov. 29, 2001 — The United States took the unprecedented step this week of demanding that foreign airlines provide information on passengers boarding planes for America. Yet in the past week, a half dozen or more Pakistani air force cargo planes landed in the Taliban-held city of Kunduz and evacuated to Pakistan hundreds of non-Afghan soldiers who fought alongside the Taliban and even al-Qaida against the United States. What’s wrong with this picture?<snip>


My guess is that OBL and his top aides were on this rescue airlift.

Also, an executive from Deutschebank AB was involved with Pakistani ISI agents in illegal weapons transfers. FBI agents monitoring the operation heard the Pakistani agent say that the twin towers would be a target. He also purchased an advanced shoulder fired American missile. I believe this missile launcher is probably the cause of the airliner that went down in New York right after the towers fell.

Goss and Graham, and Buzzy are in this up their eyeballs.

Sometimes you've got to help the enemy to have an enemy. Enemies are indispensable to regimes which would otherwise be without legitimacy.