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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 04:33 PM
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"We have found WMD"--*Bush, TONIGHT!
Edited on Sun Sep-07-03 04:34 PM by leftyandproud
Ok folks, what is our response to be if this is the case? I don't think anyone is expecting him to announce this but I WOULD NOT count this out! What if we found a suitcase nuke, or a few missles tipped with smallpox or some other bio/chemical weapon? I have a feeling the democratic response will NOT take this into account...and whoever gives it will end up making negative, pre-written points about Iraq--completely ignoring the news the prez broke just five minutes earlier. Seriously folks...What will our response be?? If the weapons have been found?? I'm afraid it could knock us flat on our ASS! We need to prepare for the worst...Prepare for the shrub regime to pull out all of the stops...showing proof of WMD operations under the Saddam regime...We NEED to be ready in case this happens...

Do not put it past them.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 04:35 PM
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1. I don't
but at this stage most will think that they
were planted... I mean the world community.

What woudl happen under that sceario is not something I want
to even consider... can you saw WW III and we are the bad
guys?

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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 04:57 PM
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9. Why didn't they use them?
One obvious reply is that if Iraq had WMD during the invasion, then why didn't they use them against the invading troops as the Bushies said they would? Is Saddam more humane than Shrub?
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 06:24 PM
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21. That question is just too logical...these people are stupid.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 04:35 PM
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2. Link?
Is this in the wrong forum?
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 04:36 PM
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3. This is NOT breaking news
Please transfer to the general discussion forum.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 04:36 PM
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4. You posted this in the wrong forum
This is not Late Breaking News. You probably should have posted this in GD.
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Rollins Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 04:37 PM
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5. They have done no prep-work.
The Bush Admin rarely if ever drops a bomb like this without first prep-ing the TV viewing public. They have already leaked what will be in the 15 minute speech tonight.
*yawn*
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 04:38 PM
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6. I have little faith in the intellegence of the public
but even this would be too much to fall for. This would mean that the President* of the United States is playing partisan games with our security. And I doubt most people would find that very palatable. Its not gonna happen.



*-via chicanery
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 04:38 PM
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7. Sorry to be picky
But this isn't LBN. Please repost in the General Discussion section.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 04:56 PM
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8. You didn't include that this was "speculation" in your Subject......
Edited on Sun Sep-07-03 04:57 PM by KoKo01
and it's misleading the way it looks.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 04:59 PM
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10. if thats the case
Edited on Sun Sep-07-03 05:01 PM by Kamika
Our strongest anti argument would be that if it took us that long to find it it wasnt at all such a big threat as they said it was.

Also depending on howmuch or what they find we can also say that because it was so little of whatever they found it wasnt a threat at all.

Our biggest mistake would be to go around screaming theyre planted because the freepers will just say were paranoid etc etc
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 05:00 PM
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11. OH BULLSHIT. Go read LBN.
Edited on Sun Sep-07-03 05:00 PM by WilliamPitt
From the Independent: "US, Britain to Back Off WMD Claims"
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/story.jsp?story=441051

From the AP: 'Unaccounted For Weapons May Be Bookeeping Glitches'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=100978&mesg_id=100978

No way.
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 05:05 PM
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12. Two pronged response:
Edited on Sun Sep-07-03 05:06 PM by poskonig
While finding WMD is good for American credibility around the world and is very important, we have to hope Bush is telling the truth about the matter, something he has had problems with in the past. Secondly, the *larger* issue is making Iraq prosperous and secure, and Bush's unilateral behavior will not ensure such an end. The consequences of failure are billions of American tax dollars and hundreds of bodybags.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 06:22 PM
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20. I'll be damned if I EVER equate
Edited on Sun Sep-07-03 06:22 PM by Jackpine Radical
American credibility with that of GWB. That lying sack has already proved what he is to the world, and credibility is something the rest of us will have to restore after we rid ourselves of that unelected blight upon the nation.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 05:07 PM
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13. It don't matter....
It was still an illegal invasion that is costing us an arm and a leg, and the blood of young Americans...
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 05:20 PM
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14. Well, it is after Labor Day...and you know what they say about new product
I wouldn't put it past the Rove propaganda machine to try this tonight. And, of course, the Democrats (aside from Dean) will cower and buy any-and-all arguments reflexively until it's too late to refute them in the eyes of the public.

JB
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southern democrat Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 05:26 PM
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17. I wouldn't worry too much about Bush finding WMD
he can't even find his fucking socks in the morning and Laura has to tie the idiots shoes for him.
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southern democrat Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 05:26 PM
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18. I wouldn't worry too much about Bush finding WMD
he can't even find his fucking socks in the morning and Laura has to tie the idiots shoes for him.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 06:25 PM
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22. Dean & Kucinich, to be fair.
I'm leaning Dean, but Dennis is no pushover either.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 05:22 PM
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15. "Is the world safer?" and "Where is Osama?"
?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 05:23 PM
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16. Other than the dittoheads, who'll believe it?
(1) Since he outsourced the search to a private concern who has a vested interest in locating "something", I think it's quite suspect from the get go. In fact, if this administration were to be caught lying about this, I'd say he is finished. Would they risk promoting a plant?

(2) Too much time has elapsed. If Saddam had them, why didn't he use them? If he had them in his control after he went into hiding, have thought that unleash them in revenge of his sons' deaths....if not then, under what conditions would he use them?

He didn't use them because he didn't have them. The only thing that will be found are reams of paper with words on them. As far as I know, that does not constitute WMD.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 05:36 PM
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19. Too Late. They've already bitched about Al AQaeda and everybody and
Joemama flooding into Iraq since the war broke out. They would have to show that they weren't brought in by someone else.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 06:25 PM
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23. WMD "program" is not the same as "weapons"
The British press has been reporting that the US and the UK will no longer claim that there were WMD in Iraq, but that there were programs and people that could produce such weapons (but not in 45-minutes).
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Coffee Coyote Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 06:28 PM
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24. my prediction
He'll make empty overtures to the UN, and our allies (what's left of them) for "help" - but he won't use the word "help" - it will sound too much like admitting being wrong. His pleas for an allied effort of rebuilding and aid will prove to be as fruitful and meaningful as his promises to help the economy.

This is an act of desperation from this hapless and dangerous asshole cretin.
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western mass Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 06:47 PM
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25. doesn't matter one bit - WMD aren't the point
Conveniently finding WMD now doesn't change one bit the fact that Bushco lied systematically & outrageously to build the case for war. The LIES are the crime.

They lied about the state of the nuclear program.
They lied about the uranium & knowingly used forged documents to support this lie.
They lied about the state of the weapons programs in general.
They lied about the 45-minute WMD launch capability.
They lied about the link between Iraq & 9-11 / Al-Quaeda.
They lied about knowing the location of WMD sites.
They lied about the cannisters.
They lied about the germ warfare trucks.
They lied about the bioweapon-capable drones.
They have changed their story repeatedly about the reason for the war.

etc etc etc.

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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:11 PM
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26. TEXT OF SPEECH APPARENTLY ON YAHOO ALREADY.
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:36 PM
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27. Anyone who thinks that Hussein was an imminent threat,
which was the reason given for war, needs to be treated for rampant paranoia. I think that if Hussein had some WMDs he (or other Baathists) would be using them now. He has nothing to lose -- I can't imagine he cares about the good opinion of other countries right now.
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