The Freeps turn on Gibson (not very tolerant of Mel's opinions)

[Charlie Brown]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1317840/posts

Post 3. "It's apparently been all over the radio. Hopefully he'll make Google so we can expand on this. He's in a league with Michael Moore. He embraces someone who is a radical, hate-infested, anti-American nutcase. He praises his film and in the process clearly is indicting the President for going to war for oil and unsavory reasons."

"I have known that he has basically been against the war, but his praise of that propaganda and Moore has gone to far and Gibson is on my boycott list now. He is no friend when he is that far out of it."

"I consider all Hollywood celebrities to be crazy. They live in a make believe, delusional world, and have difficulty with reality. Only a few (Jimmy Stewart and John Wayne come to mind) have been able to sucessfully separate make believe from reality."

"Well, he fought hard for a Christian film and I'm happy about that.

However, his political opionions suck and so does he. I'm boycotting him."

[RevolutionaryActs]

1. I can't warp my head around how truly stupid those people are.

It's astonishing...

[Clark2008]

10. Do they know that Gibson is Catholic?

I mean - lock, stock and barrel Catholic - which means he's not only anti-abortion, he's also anti-war and anti-death penalty. He's against all forms of unnatural death as is the Pope.

Surely they aren't that stupid.

But, then again, these are freepers we're talking about here.

[liberalhistorian]

13. They'll love someone they

consider conservative, but the second that person disagrees with them in the slightest about ANYTHING at all, then they're suddenly commie pinko liberal unpatriotic anti-American nutcase dirtbag trash. They are so knee-jerk into the goosestepping that it's downright painful to watch!

[MSgt213]

Apparently you have not have any thoughts of your own as a freeper

Even if you supported and believe in the war before and then come to understand later it was wrong you better not say it.

[pdxmom]

20. I wonder if they're boycotting the Pope?

n/t

[Tinoire]

31. They don't HEAR the Pope. Don't even bother to research their

own religion to hear what the Pope has to say about materialism, war, Bush or anything not fitting their narrow little world view.

The Pope rocks. Of course they're boycotting him. Ignoring his message is the same as boycotting him. Freepers- pffft.

[Vidar]

45. When he was active, the Pope warned often against the evils of capitalism

[OrwellwasRight]

33. Don't know if you meant warp or wrap, but it's a perfect alteration! nt.

B-)

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

2. Steal the text...NO FREEPER LINKS. We don't need to give them clicks.

Thanks for contributing. I would be interested in seeing their vitriol against one of their own, but I REFUSE TO GIVE FREEREPUBLIC INCOME. The last thing we need to do here is to post Freeper links; thereby, increasing their site hitrate and pumping-up their supposed membership views.

JB

[Kahuna]

3. Love this one...

snip..
I never really bought that he was this great conservative like many here seemed to believe. This kinship comment does it for me. He's on my boycott list. He suckered a lot of people with Passion though.



5 posted on 01/10/2005 10:40:05 AM PST by bushfamfan
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And this pearl of wisdom:

To: bushfamfan
he played his religion all the way to the BANK (duuuh, freeptard. Remind you of anyone else you know? A hint. His initials are G. duhb-ya Bush)

[yankeedem]

4. Have we discovered a SANE freeper?

To: ColoCdn

OK - why are so many of you suprised??? One can be conservative and still opposed to the war in Iraq. Obviously Mr. Gibson is of that ilk. No one could doubt his cultural conservatism last year; but now, as he opposes this administration's ill-considered policies in Iraq, he is a "liberal"?

I suppose many of you think that "conservatism" equates with buying 100% into the ravings of Limbaugh and Hannity. Well, sorry - it does not, IMHO.

18 posted on 01/10/2005 10:48:37 AM PST by Seajay (Ordem e Progresso)
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Come on guys, which one of us is this? On second thought, he spells like a freeper.

[MrMonk]

or is he a "GONE" freeper?

[ZombieNixon]

6. Wow! How fast that that guy get banned? n/t

[liberalhistorian]

14. WOW! I couldn't have said it better

myself! I wonder how long it took before his ass was thrown off of Freak Republic.

[yankeedem]

16. Let's play another fun game

How long will this poster last?

To: bushfamfan

Slow down everybody! Since when did making a film expressing one's personal faith equal creating a position paper for political conservatism? And since when does making a religious film that appeals to a socially and politically conservative base require that the film's creator fall into line with the precepts of that particular group? Can't someone believe in Jesus and be against the Bush administration's geopolitical policies? As Bob Dylan once said, "just because you buy my records, doesn't mean I owe you anything." The Passion Of Christ was a movie, not a conservative screed.

And BTW, the fact that I happen to be a liberal doesn't mean that I don't value life. I do. None of us, conservative or liberal, should be required to buy into any particular set of doctrines. We've all got to become a little more flexible in our thinking, doncha think?

253 posted on 01/10/2005 4:28:53 PM PST by yankee doodle andy II

[liberalhistorian]

18. Whoa!

I'd be surprised if that poster lasted more than a few minutes, actually, they are quick to pounce on the slightest misstep over there!

[yankeedem]

19. Maybe they'll surprise us

The original poster #18 that I quoted is still there, and RimJob removed 252 but not 253. Maybe we will shame him into leaving it on. I'm sure freepers are jamming on their alert button.

[yankeedem]

21. Alright, fess up, who is trolling freak republic?

To: All

I find it mystifying that so many seem to believe that Gibson's very Christianity is suspect if he opposes the Bush administration on Iraq. Does the majority on this site really believe that opposition to the Iraq war is incompatible with Christianity?! The Pope disagrees with you on that score.

254 posted on 01/10/2005 4:38:03 PM PST by ReasonableDude
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[Charlie Brown]

27. He's gone n/t

[Seemann For Congress]

5. Hilarious

Can't wait until they start bashing "Passion", and one of them eventually refers to the "fraternity-style hazing" that was administered to Jesus.

[liberalhistorian]

15. LOL!

No doubt that will happen soon, stay tuned!

[sharman]

29. Too-shay!!

[leesa]

35. That's a good one "fraternity-style hazing". So true!!

[Charlie Brown]

7. LOL! Read this:

"True Christians were not part of the crusades...Don't paint lieing heathens as Christians"

[Clark2008]

11. ROFLMAO!!!

This answers my question above: yes, they are that stupid.

[Nitrogenica]

8. My wife just told me the story of her Kerry-voting co-worker ripping

Micheal Moore today.It's such strong evidence of how powerful the right wing media machine is! Says "he (Moore) says it's a documentary and its an opinion piece, etc." so he hates Moore for that reason. (?!) The guy never saw the movie. If he did the content of Moores film would change his opinion. Apparently the truth is some people DO wear tin foil hats, namely the gullible public!
Does this opinion make me and elitist?

[goforit]

What did Gibson say?

[Charlie Brown]

12. Gibson's statement:

Gibson in particular raised eyebrows during his highly-charged question-and-answer session with a few press after his win.

"I feel a kind of strange kinship with Michael. They're always tying to pit us against each other in the press...the left, the right…" he commented, clearly dismissive of the idea.

"I saw his film, I liked it," Gibson said of "9/11," though he indicated that he might disagree with some points and some editing. "However, the question - and I didn't need to see his film to answer the question - is, why are we in Iraq?"

Gibson said that no one had explained to him adequately "why we went in and why we're there."

[Hobarticus]

24. First thing I've agreed with Mel on in a looooong time.... n/t

[StClone]

9. I love how they know nothing about Moore yet bash him

Moore is radically PRO-American! Freepers have not seen 9/11 or if they have they can not discuss with authority on its inconsequential flaws. In his heart Moore fights the good fight: Freepers? they are lost in a cause that has no reality.

[jbnow]

17. Of course! What would Jesus think

of a man who didn't like unnecessary wars? Who doesn't hate a person who is different then him?

How unchristian can Gibson get? They should boycott him!

Unless there is some irony there...

[Nalgenelover Snort]

22. Why, look at this!

All of sudden even chick.com hates Gibson!

http://www.chick.com/bc/2005/toolflop.asp

For a different reason, but just last summer chick.com was reccommending that churches pile up their congregations in busloads to go see the Passion. Hysterical.

[yardwork]

40. Notice that Chick.com is hyping their own video as an alternative

[Contrary1]

23. I don't think Mel will notice their "boycott"...

since they don't seem to know what films he has been in:

in response to: I never really bought that he was this great conservative like many here seemed to believe. This kinship comment does it for me. He's on my boycott list. He suckered a lot of people with Passion though.

To: bushfamfan
Yes he suckered a ton of people around here with that and also with his acting like a military man on movies. Some people have a hard time discerning a real uniform from a costume. I think this Diehard character is probably the closest to his own philosophy.

[FlemingsGhost]

25. To be fair, DU was extremely harsh on Mel, too.

Two sides of the same coin.

[Tinoire]

30. No shit! DU made me blush the way many people here went after him

simply for producing a film, as realistic & as reverential as he could make it, about the founder of his faith.

[leesa]

36. "reverential"??? Did I see a different movie? It was a bloodbath.

[Tinoire]

41. Catholicism is based on that blood-bath

Jesus said, "Very truly, I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood have eternal life, and I will raise them up on the last day; for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink." (John 6:53-54)

"Eat my flesh" - my broken, bruised, lacerated flesh... "drink my blood" - my flow of my life extracted by thorn and nail and spear.

Yea, dogs are round about Me; a company of evildoers encircle Me; they have pierced My hands and feet - I can count all My bones - they stare and gloat over Me; they divide My garments among them, and for My raiment they cast lots." (Psalm 22:16-18)


You may not like it, you may disagree but that is the Catholic faith, based on the sacrifice of the Lamb of God, THE Lamb prepared throughout the Old Testament. It's why Catholics celebrate Lent and pay particular attention to the suffering of Good Friday, reverentially honor the 12 stations of the cross where Christ suffered so much to redeem humanity, and why they partake of Holy Communion where the host is transubstantiated into the Body of Christ. It's not the happy-go-lucky story about a good story-teller that Hollywood chose to tell.

The redemption was a blood-bath. You may not believe the story itself but that's the Catholic story and Mel told it faithfully.

To this day, I haven't gone to see it because I knew of the blood-bath from the Bible. Didn't need Mel Gibson to remind me of how the Lamb of God was slaughtered.

Mel Gibson, like billions of Catholics, believes Jesus was the promised Lamb. So yes... reverential. I will never understand wht that depiction of the "divine" slaughter founding the Catholic faith makes so many people uncomfortable.

"I am the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world", He said. Surely people didn't expect a gentle, poetic death?

[RafterMan]

42. Of course it was a bloodbath

That's part of the majesty of their religion.

Were you hoping for the Buddy Christ?

[Vidar]

46. Very good point.

[bunny planet]

26. omg, do any of them have an IQ larger than their chest measurements??

Mel Gibson isn't religious enough for them because he doesn't condone an illegal war that has killed thousands of innocent people. I wonder if they know that Mel has built his own freaking church on his property with his own personal priest who holds the mass in Latin. Whatever problems I have with Mel, and I've got plenty, at least his religion teaches him that it is immoral to kill. The freepers would have been cast as the Romans if they were around back then.

Morans, everyone of them.

[OutsourceBush]

28. "They live in a make believe, delusional world, and have difficulty with"

They live in a make believe, delusional world, and have difficulty with reality...

Yea, that is a perfect description of a Bushie freeper. But what about Gibson? lol

[Zynx]

32. Catholic = Anti-death

I'm not sure why this is so surprising to them. Oh wait, they're fundie idiots who have super warped, militant Christianity. Nevermind.

It is nice when they turn on each other. Sorta like spiders in the same cage.

Now, I think Gibson has some severe psycho-sexual issues with all the violence in his movies, but that's a whole other kettle of fish.

[hickman1937]

43. I don't want to offend you

but I am sick and tired of hearing these hate mongers refered to as christians. They are not and never were. Any one who has ever read the Gospels knows that these are souls lost to mammon and hatred. I no longer can find any sympathy for them.

[leesa]

34. Reagan? Gropinator? I'll bet a hundred dollars this ignoramous never

saw 9-11. The one thing you can't possibly say is that it is anti-American. Moore honors America deply in the film.

[Buck_Fush]

37. Wow! Common ground with the freeps! Never thought it would happen

they are disgusted with Mel? What a coincidence! So am I! LOL, I never thought I'd see the day that I agreed with any of the jerks on FreeRepublic! Well, at least we have different reasons. Mel lost all his appeal as far as I was concerned when he came out with the bogus pious shit and all the foolish Christ suffering junk. It's quite a joke to watch the christians try to claim Christ had horrible suffering in this day and age, when Iraqi's are being tortured to death, making Christ's death look pretty damn tame by comparison.

[NVMojo]

39. I love it!!! And his film is Catholic, not Christian. What idiots...

It is of the nature of the Catholic faith to focus on the persecution, suffering and death of Jesus, most Protestants, while acknowledging it, generally focus on the resurrection of Christ....Mel was doing a real Catholic thing with this film and historically, Catholics are Dems ...

I'm surprised it took these idiots this long to figure it out.

[chookie]

44. Mel has been speaking out against the war for a while

In the midst of all the POTC debate, Mel did manage to say things about how he was VERY unsure about what Bush was doing in invading Iraq, and that it looked rotten to him. Didn't get much publicity, but I've been waiting for this thought to develop....

HE, for one, was a Catholic who was taking the line of Pope John Paul, which is that this war is immoral -- as opposed to Senator Rick Santorum (Catholic Fascist), who went against Pope John Paul and declared the war in Iraq "just."

Expect to hear a bit more from Mel in the coming weeks regarding Iraq and Bush. The freepers have not yet begun to feel "betrayed" ....

Wanna see a guy get marginalized real real fast? Mel will go from being a "True ChristianTM" to a mere "Catholic" (they have always hated us, almost as much as they hate Muslims and Pagans) in a flash.

Whatever Mel is -- he certainly does not flinch from getting flailed himself. He's not a "I wanna be liked!" kinda guy. He may turn out to have a lot of guts. But it may be a wasted effort -- because the freepers worship George Bush, their latest "incarnation" of the War God of the ancient Middle East, who they have always embraced over Jesus, to whom they only pay lip service.