Fuck you, CNN

[WilliamPitt]

Oh my God, there has not been a whore-fest like this in my memory. Hagel: "Well, we don't need to look back on the mistakes that have been made. Let's look forward." Aaron Piece-Of-Shit Brown: "The Iraqi people get to listen to a President tonight without being worried about getting killed for disagreeing."

Oh. Man. Just getting started here. I HATE this network. Worthless.

[Bush_has_Parvo]

1. Do they ever have an actual lefty partisan?

Or do they always have the right wing comment on their glorious leader.

[Freddie Stubbs]

61. How about James Carville?

He isn't too right wing.

[Cheesehead]

66. No, but he is DLC/DNC!

n/t

[Freddie Stubbs]

67. He is not a member of the DNC

And the DLC's website has few mentions of Carville and no mentions of him as a member: http://www.google.com/search?as_q=&num=100&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=james+carville&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=ndol.org&safe=images

[Freddie Stubbs]

68. And don't forget about Paul Begala

He isn't a right winger either.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

2. No they only have to worry about dying from disintery from their water

or getting robbed or getting bombed if they demonstrate support. No biggie.

[glarius]

3. How about the fact they are all assuming all other countries (that had

nothing to do with "breaking Iraq") are duty bound to help fix it?...The height of arrogance...

[bahrbearian]

4. Did Arron really say that

Glad I canceld my cable. I get what I need right here..

[fujiyama]

34. Sometimes

there is decent programming on Cable...I caught the trials of Henry Kissinger on Sundance...Great Film!

[Sliverofhope]

5. Amen n/t

n/t

[spanone]

6. totally full of shit shamelessly full of shit

WMD's my ass. humane? War? So pompous.

[MUAD_DIB]

20. Humane War

Jumbo Shrip...

Military intelligence...


You get the idea.

[OldSoldier]

62. The military intelligence joke is old and not funny

and this Military Intelligence veteran would really like it to stop.

[MuseRider]

7. I think I have heard that at

least 3 times today. Another OOps, get over it. Pricks.

[Deja Q]

8. Wait a mo', people who don't remember their mistakes repeat them

Or something to that effect.

We NEED to look back at Bush's* mistakes. There are oodles of them, but we'll get through them. We need to.

I mean, look at the Nazi movement.

Look at the 70s oil crisis.

We haven't exactly looked back and it's costing us dearly. Dunno what to say about Reagan/Bush 1/Clinton, but Bush 2 is proof that they are unbalanced, fascist, are repeating things that have happened in the past that were bad, and so on.

Fucking pukes.

[DrBB]

9. Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who

This seems to be the line. Novakula--he whose credibility is as firmly rooted as the fake eyebrows that are known to occasionally fall off during his show--delivered himself of the opinion that 'mistakes were made' but it's only the Democrats--those scoundrels!--who are so low as to want to make political points about it.

Um, gee, Novak, I kinda thought that's what politcs were for, ya know? Figuring out whose policies work, whose don't, and electing the ones that work and kicking out the ones who fail, kinda thing? Kinda hard to do if you're disbarred from discussing, like, the factual record 'n' stuff. "Factual record"--that's something journalists are supposed to have some interest in, I think? "Let's not dwell on the mistakes of the past!" sez the Party of Personal Responsibility. And we're talking about how many hundreds of billions of dollars worth of mistake yet to be paid for, hm? Not to mention how many thousands of lives, American, Iraqi, military and otherwise? Strikes me as something worth dwelling on, at least for a minute or two.

on edit:

FATHER
(to his SON)
Shut up!

(to LAUNCELOT)
You only killed the bride's father - that's all -

LAUNCELOT
Oh dear, I didn't really mean to...

FATHER
Didn't mean to? You put your sword right through his head!

LAUNCELOT
Gosh - Is he all right?

FATHER
You even kicked the bride in the chest! It's going to cost me a fortune!

LAUNCELOT
I can explain ... I was in the forest ... riding north from Camelot ... when I got this note.

FATHER
Camelot? Are you from Camelot?

LAUNCELOT
I am, sir. I am a Knight of King Arthur.

FATHER
'Mm ... very nice castle, Camelot ... very good pig country.....

[MUAD_DIB]

21. The First Iraq speech

sank into the swamp.

The second Iraq speech burnt down, fell over then sank into the swamp,

but this speech... this one will stand for sure...

[NewYorkerfromMass]

27. and HUGE....tracts of land.

:)

[Forkboy]

36. Someday this will all be yours!

What..the curtains?

[Coffee Coyote]

10. only Americans who disagree with the "president"...

Have to worry about being killed.. or being beaten up, or ostracized, or having their car keyed... or being verbally assaulted...

I feel kind of vindicated, having been a critic of CNN since the Reagan years... precisely because of their RW spin. They are only slightly less subtle than Fox, which is like saying throat cancer is less hideous than liver cancer, lol.

[RapidCreek]

11. Patriotic Mantra....

Moving Forrrrward, Looking Forrrrward, Moving Forrrrward, Clintons Penis, Looking Forrrrward, Moving Forrrrward, Looking Forrrrward,......

RC

[diamondsoul]

15. Laughing so hard I can't see here....

OMG, you people have to start warning me before you do that!

[Zero Gravitas]

12. Brilliant Speech

or so the whores will say. How decisive! What a Great Leader! He has saved his Presidency from the weak America-hating Liberals!

:puke:

[DemPopulist]

13. Well, MSNBC had Matthews and Luntz

:puke:

[Sick of Bullshit]

14. CNN mama huevos

I canceled my subscription YEARS ago because even then it was a pathetic excuse for a news network.

[glarius]

16. NBC has Joe Biden on praising Bush's "leveling "with the people

Biden is a MORON!!!!!!!!

[Democat]

17. These stupid pro-Bush Democrats are trying to destroy our party

The last thing anyone should be doing when Bush is at 45% is praising him!

We thought these weak idiots were kissing his ass because he was popular.

What is their excuse now?

Do they love Bush, really love him enough to want him for another four years?

[spooky3]

18. didn't Ted Turner have ANY influence on CNN?

[Fatima]

31. My mother actually liked Biden until I showed her

what a cowardly little smacked-ass he is. I am sooo glad he decided not to run.

[RapidCreek]

58. How conservative you are!

Hehehehehehe.

RC

[Coffee Coyote]

60. he is also a plagiarist fucker

Ah, 1988.

[liberalnurse]

19. MSNBC just as bad or worse!

These guys don't digest anything....They just make it up as they go along.....I feel sorry for the poor slobs who take them at their word.....Awful!

[althecat]

22. Well said William....

CNN does not deserve the benefit of your rhetorical genius.

[salmonhorse]

23. Agreed In Freaking Full ~

Until POXnews came along I used to think CNN was our only contemporaneous example of a simple abomination...

:hi:

[peacetalksforall]

24. The propaganda is going to get worse

the patriotic drama and platitudinal sayings
coming from these armies of 'mouths' are going
to make you want to to unplug your house.

[Fatima]

25. Heh. And some nutball at the YMCA tried to tell me that CNN was

part of the "liiibrul meeedia."

The argument that ensued got me so fired up that I actually benched my own weight on a one-timer- and exceeded all my other lifts for reps. I lifted a total of 18,500 lbs that workout. Then I ran a couple of miles on the treadmill.

I thanked the little asshole for the inspiration afterward.

[frank frankly]

28. William Rivers Pitt!

CNN is impossible to comprehend. I watched it today for the first time in years and my head exploded. And Joe Biden just cost his party a wide open shot at President Stupid.

This is my first post. What a pleasure to speak finally to all of you DUers, such as the brilliant William Rivers Pitt. Can't wait to get a chance to give a shout out to Bev Harris.

[salin]

40. While I am no Will nor Bev

let me offer you a humble welcome to DU frank frankly! :hi:

[WilliamPitt]

72. Thanks, Frank!

Welcome to DU. :)

[Robbien]

32. Any media which does not fall on its knees and bow before

Whistle Ass, is biased media, doncha know?

[Nottingham]

26. Don't Worry Be Happy Bush is at the controlls 87 Billion

is the catch line that is choking everybody!

I think Cnn is crap!

[RichM]

29. It's not CNN in particular. All the US media are basically the same. CNN

is not even the worst of them, by a long shot.

The behavior is dictated by the nature of oligopoly capitalism. Anytime an entire vital industry is dominated by just a few giant competitors, the result will ALWAYS be overwhelming corruption and betrayal of the public interest. There are no exceptions to this rule.

Unregulated capitalism does not work. Oligarchical or monopoly capitalism does not work. That is the real lesson demonstrated by the disgusting spectacle you describe.

[Pale Blue Dot]

30. You know what, Will?

As Bush's poll numbers drop and American's TRUE feelings come out, the "news" channels are going to start looking more and more transparent. People will begin to recognize the spin, and tune out en masse. THEN things will change.

You heard it here first, my friend.

[Octafish]

33. FUCK YOU, MURDOCH!

While we're giving out well-deserved "fuck yous," we can't forget how much CNN has changed since Ted Turner left. As for Rupert the Alien and the rest of ABCNNBCBSETC they're all fascist sycophants. FUCK YOU ALL, YOU MISERABLE TOADIES!

[Zhade]

37. Thanks for saying what I feel.

And just think, next year I'll have to work for that motherfucker.

Sigh. Why am I still on this planet? I hear there are nicer ones...

[Octafish]

73. Sorry to hear about your fate, Z.

Living long ago in Chicago, I had the good fortune of reading the late Mike Royko several times a week. He then was the main columnist for the Chicago Sun-Times until his paper was purchased by Rupert. Royko pegged the little fellah "The Alien" and said he is a guy who bought his citizenship by giving generously to Pruneface Reagan and the GOP. Royko also warned us of what has come to pass — a media governed by the unelected alien and his contemporary apologists for the pluto-kleptocracy.

Zhade: Please don't worry if you have to work for the so-and-so. There probably are many, many good people who work for The Alien. You can tell Who's Who by letting them talk a bit before you open up to them. Remember the good guys and gals and build a network within the machine. Then one day, Rupert will find his entire staff knows who and what he really is. And his media empire will actually fulfill the most important function in a Democracy — inform the public of the news and events of the day in a truthful way.

BTW: Royko quit the Sun-Times. He quit a decades-long promise never to work for The Chicago Tribune (WGN), rather than work for The Alien. Royko knew how to prioritize.

PS: A long time ago, I once was a proud member of the Fifth Estate. While I enjoyed some aspects of the work, my reputation soon became that of "Conspiracy Theorist." If I can give any advice to the new initiates it's: "Keep your wug shut." It really is the most important job in a Democracy, the only business named in the US Constitution.

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Your work will speed the day your countrymen appreciate your sacrifice! Good luck, Zhade.

[JNelson6563]

64. just checking in to note

the rare occassion where you and I are in complete agreement!

Julie

[Octafish]

71. Thanks, J!

Forgive my for creating the impression we disagree more than we do. I always thought we were on the same side, but riding different horsies.

Best of luck to you and yours!

[depakid]

35. Yep- in my opinion worse than Fox

because they put up the pretense of being even handed, when in actuality about 80% of their material (much of which passes as "news") is basically Republican spin. Worse, they purposefully aim this type coverage at Americans, in order to influence public policy.

If you watch CNN when you're abroad, you'll immediately notice that it's a much different and animal. It's much more objective, less deceitful and it doesn't conceal facts deemed "innapropriate" for American consumption.

[angka]

38. and to think

that CNN was the network people retreated to as they began to realize that fox news was really just a bald-faced propaganda mouthpiece. but let's forget about the past and you know, just move forward. and yes of course we have always been at war with eurasia.

[Isere]

39. I think you spoke too soon

On Larry King after the debate, the panel absolutely trashed Bush! It was incredible! A reporter from Newsweek who is in Iraq raked the administration over the coals, as did Amanpour and even Judith Miller. It wasn't pretty! In addition, Bob Graham added his terse comments. This was an anti-Bush free for all.

All of this set the few Repugs to squealing "unfair!"... Chris Shays and Kyl were outnumbered and outflanked and they both complained about it.

So don't throw CNN too many brickbats. I doubt that the other networks were as fair and balanced.

[althecat]

41. Notwithstanding this...Whoremedia need to be called what they...

The Whoremedia need to be called what they are... until they change their spots. But I fear that is impossible in these days of megacorp media conglomerates.

CNN is one of the chief culprits in the colour coded fear delivery game. And however much they balance their fear mongering... it is that that they have to stop before I for one will be giving them any slack.... Watch for a terror alert from Asscroft to back up GWB's speech... and watch for CNN to swallow it hook, line and sinker.

[nomaco-10]

43. ITA and wolf has a congressman Obey (D) Wis on now trashing Rummy.

[Cheesehead]

47. Did you notice

that that piece of shit whore Wolf gave the repuke congressman from NY at least twice as much time in rebuttal as he gave Obey to make his case? Typical.

[Donna Zen]

44. That was a shocker

and I think a surprise to King. The young guy...was he in London, anyway he set the tone. For domestic consumption...won't play well...no WMD...no terrorist in Iraq before the invasion. Yep. And even Judith Chalabi M chimed in with no connection between Iraq and the terrorist. None.

Now if only Joe Bushbiden would have said something like that...hmmm

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

63. It's true! I was about to turn the channel after Zahn and Brown because

they were as disgusting as always. Paula's face was lighted up with zealous joy because she was going to interview Bush Sr. at the Kennebunk Cult Compound today.

Then Larry King came on and the five reporters were asking actual real questions, criticizing Bush and actually dealing with reality! It was a shock. Even Judith Martin was. I was wondering if she is trying to get her credibility back.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

42. Didya notice?

During the first minute of Hagel they had " A Democrat view" underneath him? (Obviously Biden's graphic)

That had me pissed. Almost as much as the "real" Dem view being in the personage of Joe "I'm" Biden "my time 'til the next war starts."

[redwitch]

45. But, but...

They're the most trusted name in news, Will. Just kidding-I hate 'em too. Aaron and Paula and the whole crew. My Dad was a news junkie- a columnist and reporter for many years, we had half a dozen newspapers on the kitchen table every weekend when I was a kid- from all over. And the evening news was honestly reported by people of integrity. I think what has happened to us is heartbreaking and I think I'm glad my Dad's not here to see it. I'm not even sure when it started- has it been gradually happening and just accelerated the last couple of years? Or has it happened so fast I never saw it coming? Information from a free press is like air and water to a free society- without it we are vulnerable to much worse that 9/11.

[IndianaGreen]

46. Iraqis have electricity and TV to watch Bush?

Aaron Brown can be such a puke at times!

[nomaco-10]

48. Soldiers and civilians say they don't , but Scumsfeld said

they had restored 80% in some parts of Iraq. Of course,we'll never know, cause nobody reports on what is really going on in Iraq.

[grasswire]

49. CNN was far better than MSNBC

Gad, the panel at MSNBC is getting tiring. Same old hacks.

[snyttri]

52. MSNBC did have someone say that independent analysts think the real

cost will be well over $100 billion.

[Fatima]

54. He was probably referring to

a village with five huts and a brand new Honda generator. Four of the huts now have power as long as the gasoline lasts. Ain't 'Murrika great??

(ps- the Honda generator was trucked in by Halliburton and cost a mere $500,000.00)

[nomaco-10]

56. exactly what I was thinking when I was writing the post. It's scandalous.

[Pepperbelly]

50. WILL PITT ...

I watched the rerun of the pre-speech just because of this thread. One of the funniest things I saw was when Paula was going to John King for his vacuous, vapid piece and she said, "John, we know that the President will ask for $87 billion, but everyone wants to know the TONE of the speech."

I nearly shit. $87 billion and "everyone" is concerned about what TONE he will take?

:shrug:

It is hard to believe sometimes.

[snyttri]

55. I think Bush is a tenor.

[scarface2004]

51. cnn is going down...

nobody watches them anymore....

[snyttri]

53. They've been intimidated by accusations they're left of center. They

need lots of e-mails pointing out they often toady to power instead of practicing journalism.

I give them credit for Amanpour and Robertson.

Nick Robertson said tonight about the speech that Iraqis will not like hearing that they are part of the war on terror, because they know they did not have a terrorist problem until the American war brought the terrorists in.

[opihimoimoi]

57. Biden is showing signs of being a mole/troll for the Pub Masters

I suspect he got bought. No true Dem would applaud that speech.

I so mad I cannot drink.

Light it up boys, and where are those Oreos?

[JCMach1]

59. Let's put it this way... NONE of my Iraqi students are

packing their bags to return to Baghdad soon...

[soupkitchen]

65. Hey Aaron Brown, now they have to worry about getting killed for agreeing

[barbaraann]

69. I did hear John King use the word "sober" twice in referring to

the speech and I though he emphasized it like he was trying to send a message. Did anyone else hear this?

I also heard another pundit, I believe it was David Gergen, use that word last night about the speech.

Do you suppose they know something?

[MetaTrope]

70. Not like it wasn't a sign when Bernard Shaw bolted from CNN

:kick: