ARNOLD IS FINISHED!

[newsguyatl]

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 7, 2003 18:10:09 ET XXXXX

SECOND BLACK BODYBUILDER CLAIMS SCHWARZENEGGER RACIST COMMENTS

**World Exclusive**

Another black bodybuilder has come forward claiming that California gubernatorial candidate Arnold Schwarzenegger has a history of making racist comments, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal.

Robby Robinson, one of the most respected and well known of all body builders , backs up claims made by fellow black bodybuilder Rick Wayne.

"No disrespect to fans of Arnold but Rick's claim is in keeping with my experiences with the man," Robinson explains in a message.

Robinson says that Schwarzenegger repeatedly directed the term "nigger" at him.

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Known throughout his career as "The Black Prince," Robinson continues:

"In San Jose at the Russ Warner Classic, as it was called in those days, there was a scene. 7 or 8 of us bodybuilders were invited to guest pose at the show. We were all paid $650.00 to do our thing.

"After the show there was a big banquet. We were all dancing having a nice time and in walks Arnold who started shouting out, 'Down with the blacks, niggers this and blacks that,' for about 10 min.

"All during this time nobody said a word.

"The banquet hall was full of IFFB officals. There was a dead silence. You could've heard a pin fall. Everybody in the room was shocked except for me.

"All of his hostility and rage was directed at me. For once he got caught out of shape and I was in contest condition. Me being in great shape put him in a bad light and a bad attitude.

"In my mind I wanted to bust him up. But that would not have done any good. So with all my intensity bottled inside me I walked out of the room. I'm walking out as he was still in his mode of, down with the blacks, when the silence was broken by Joe Weider's voice telling Arnold to stop. That did no good. He was on a roll by now. I left the banquet and went to my room.

"His actions were cowardly and disrespectful. That's why Rick Wayne is speaking out.

"During Pumping Iron more racial slurs were directed at me because I walked out of his house refusing to be involved in the movie if we did not get paid something. We ended up getting $100.00 a day but not before more racial slurs of nigger-nigger were leveled at me for speaking up for myself and the rest of the guys.

"What the fans and media don't know is we all then signed $10,000.00 contracts with White Mountain Film Company and Arnold. To this day Arnold has not paid us a dime. I wonder what the value of that contact would be today. BB has a dark past, it's a tragedy. The Weiders and Arnold have to deal with their ghosts being uncovered."

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[Democat]

1. Arnold used the word "nigger" repeatedly

If the mainstream media ignores this, we must go on a full offensive.

There is no way this would be ignored if it was a Democrat or even if it was a black man running for office who had called all white people derogatory terms.

This needs to be the end of Arnold's campaign.

Get ready to write some letters to the media!

[Nicholas_J]

12. I am surprised

he didnt just say schneeflocken.

Some Germans are not very up on racial equality...

I remember once having to drive 160 kilometers until I found a restaurant that would serve me while I was with a Pakistani friend.

[aisgreen]

18. But it won't be the end of Arnold's campaign

I think this report will be big in the California media, but ignored by the voters. It sounds like a crime of passion, not an ideology.

[HootieMcBoob]

37. first off it's not a "crime" at all

secondly it goes to the man's Character. Sound familiar?

Go ahead and support Governor Gangbang.

Really tells us a lot about Republican (so called) family values.

[DealsGapRider]

41. What are you talking about?

"There is no way this would be ignored if it was a Democrat or even if it was a black man running for office who had called all white people derogatory terms."

What about Al "White Interlopers" Sharpton? Or Al "Diamond Merchants" Sharpton.

[bobthedrummer]

48. How will the former Yeltsin spin doctors working for Ahnold spin this?

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1037054,00.html

[Freddie Stubbs]

54. He is not the only candidate for Governor to have used that word

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/DailyNews/busta010213.html

[wtmusic]

2. How does 'Governor Bustamante' sound...

it's much easier to say.

[newsguyatl]

3. i think

governor davis sounds better... and if californians don't like that in 2006, they can change it then

[wtmusic]

8. Yeah, if you don't live here

It's easy to be principled if you don't have to live with Davis' lameness.

[newsguyatl]

10. well if you dislike

him so much, i hope you did your part in campaigning AGAINST him in the last election...


thing is, he won the election fair and square... he's done nothing illegal. he's committed no crime... if you don't like what the man's doing, do something to get someone else in there in the next election... but this illegal assault on democracy, called the recall, isn't the way to do it... and you should be ASHAMED if you're for it and you call your self a democrat!

[Frances]

28. I live in California

and I will vote No to recall, Yes to Bustamenta

As I said on another thread, I think that Ken Lay raped California and Cheney held the door closed so that the federal government could not protect California or prosecute the rapist. Blaming our gray Governor Gray is simply blaming the victim. It also sends a signal to Republicans that they can rape any time they want to and get away with it. Until we Democrats stand together, the bullies will keep right on bullying.

[Athletic Grrl]

50. Bingo, Frances.

eom

[wtmusic]

31. No I voted for him

and he's done nothing illegal. No one has accused him of doing anything illegal. He doesn't have to; under California law we can kick his ass out, and he deserves it.

Don't understand why I have to constantly explain why I'm entitled to be a Democrat and criticize Democrats when they screw up.

Governor Davis has sitten idly by while California has incurred the biggest deficit in state history (bigger than all other states combined--somewhere between $8-38 BILLION dollars, depending on whose numbers you believe). Is it his fault? Partly, for not responding to an urgent energy crisis for 6 months. But worse, he has mismanaged the subsequent handling of it, shown no leadership and no ideas to solve the mess, and lied about the depth of it before the election last year. Take a look at his website:

http://www.governor.ca.gov

You'll get all kinds of great information about designs for the new state quarter and student test scores, but not a WORD about the number one problem in CA, which is robbing schools and our state resources (it's not even listed as an "issue").

You should be ashamed for jumping on the bandwagon on an issue you obviously know little about.

[Woodstock]

35. Some questions for you, wtmusic

If the recall is such a good thing:

1) why was it brought about solely with the financing of a rich Republican who wanted the office for himself? it's widely acknowledged that without his money, they'd never have gotten enough signatures (regardless of "poll" numbers - getting the signatures was another ballgame)

2) why is it the Republicans refused to wait until March, when the punch card machines (which are generally in poorer/largely Democratic districts) can be replaced?

3) why is it the Republicans refused to wait until March and save the state $32 million by having it at the time of the regularly scheduled election?

4) doesn't this reek even a little to you of Florida 2000 - Republicans using their money and power to make things go their way?

5) so you don't like Davis - does this justify the above?

6) are you aware of the damage that can be done, even in a largely Democratic state, with a Republican governor? Maryland is in this position and has an anti-environment, anti-choice, big-tobacco loving, big-business loving buddy of George W. Bush who is doing a lot of damage in the state - so, in the event a Republican gains office, isn't it conceivable you will be WORSE off with him than with Davis - and is this worth taking a chance on?

Please answer the questions one by one. I posed them to another person happy with the recall and he avoided answering like the plague. I'd really like to know 1) that you've considered all of these things and 2) if so, then since they don't seem to bother you, why not.

[TLM]

52. Sorry that's bullshit...

Davis did not pass deregulation... Wilson did.

Davis did not let Enron rape CA, Bush did.

Davis did what he could at the time... he had no way to know Enron would collapse shortly after he got locked into contracts based on BS price manipulation.

Most of the debt our state now faces is due to Bush's unfunded education mandates and his fucking federal deficit. Every state has budget problems... save for two. New Mexico and Vermont.

The reason CA's deficit is so huge, is that we're the 5th largest economy in the world.

[cally]

27. Well, I do live here

and I support stability and political process. I also support Davis.

[nini]

45. The recall is about Democracy not Davis - IMHO!

Puhlease! This whole fiasco is about undermining a legal election. When the repukes didn't get their way they funded this recall nightmare within a few months of the legal election. Excuse me, but this hardly gave Davis time to get anything done.

He may not be the best governor we've ever had but look what the hell he was left with on top of being a governor under the worst f'ing president we've ever had in our lifetimes.

To agree with this recall on ANY level undermines our electoral process which will be the first step to killing our democracy which is EXACTLY what the repukes want so the can seize total control over us forever.

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[Woodstock]

38. I thought it was Governor Gangbang!

Poor holier than thous, this must be driving them nuts while they aren't in denial (and surely they aren't in denial 24/7.

Doctor Laura made excuses for Bush's drinking/drugging by saying that if someone repents it's a sin to bring it up again. Of course that doesn't apply if your name is Bill Clinton.

So now, she must be making the same excuses for Arnold.

Where did she get the doctorate in Selling Your Soul, I wonder.

[Catherine Vincent]

4. Does Bush* know about this?

[newsguyatl]

5. i dunno

but all bets are that arnold will drop out soon and all republicans will race to ueberoth or mcclintock... ahhhnold is just proving too big a liablity (thank god)...

[Art_from_Ark]

42. If Ahnuld becomes such a liability

wouldn't it be better to leave him in the race?

[TheYellowDog]

6. DAMNIT

Like father, like son.

[9215]

57. Sounds like it

if the claims made by these black bodybuilders prove to be true; it looks like Arnie inherited the Nazi gene.

[mark0rama]

7. Drudge vs. Schwarzenegger

Drifting off topic a little, but does anyone know why Drudge hasn't signed on in favor of Arnold like so many Repugs have?

After all, Arnold isn't all that anti-gay, which should mean something (wink, wink) to Drudge.

Is Drudge just being sensationalistic, or does he seem to genuinely too far to the right to help Arnold?

[liberalhistorian]

9. Drudge doesn't like Ahh-nuld's

"womanizing", he said that from the very beginning, right after Ahh-nold's announcement. He was disgusted at the very thought of Schwarzenegger as governor, and talked about some of the many rumors of Arnold's womanizing and drug use.

[Solomon]

13. Drudge is

jealous.

[TheYellowDog]

19. So what if Drudge is gay?

n/t

[mark0rama]

26. Re: So what if Drudge is gay?

You're right of course, and I'm sorry if I offended anyone.

I do object when closeted gay conservatives publicly oppose gay rights, but I have no knowledge that Drudge has ever done that.

[David__77]

21. Well, Arnie is "pro-abortion"...

That is I think how Drudge would probably put it. I have heard that this issue is important to him. If I were some dedicated anti-abortion person I would be anti-Arnie as well.

[kalian]

29. Because Drudge is Jewish...

and he can't stand racism...

[Kellanved]

11. Advocatus Diaboli

The German word "Neger" was not considered racist until the Germans/Austrians were told that it sounds like "Nigger" and thus is racist.
It's a common mistake by people learning English prior to the late 80s.

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[mark0rama]

16. Actually, it means...

..."black plowman," or so I've heard. (I'm taking this from an appearance on the Letterman show years ago. ("So Arnold, how do the Kennedys feel about having a black plowman in the family?")

[DemPopulist]

24. Ha!

I remember that too...

Dave: What do the Kennedys think about you?
Arnold: What do you mean?
Dave: Well, how do they feel about having a black plowman in the family?

[Octafish]

17. Not from what Aryan Arnold said on Tonight Show.

From memory: Johnny Carson asked Schwarzenegger what his name meant. Mr. Bodynazi said it meant "black plow-man." It got a lot of nervous giggles from the audience and crew. "Schwarz" means "black" in German and imagine the "egger" is a plow-man.

[okieinpain]

46. so is this why he so easy descibes the gangbang on the

black girl as not being anything big. guess it was just a "nigger" after all huh?

[0rganism]

25. Does it matter, in this context?

"After the show there was a big banquet. We were all dancing having a nice time and in walks Arnold who started shouting out, 'Down with the blacks, niggers this and blacks that,' for about 10 min."

"Down with the blacks" seems like it isn't prone to the sort of mistranslation you describe.

[Paragon]

15. Isn't using that word just part of being a Republican?

No wonder they welcomed him with open arms.

[Terwilliger]

20. Anybody hear how he supports Latinos and why they should vote for him?

"I did foo-ar movies in Mexico"

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, a future leader in the Republican party!

[Clete]

22. Didn't you see on the news?

Arnold was disinvited to be Grand Marshall of the Mexican independence day celebration in LA. Instead they invited Governor Davis. He rode in a yellow bus, with I guess his supporters inside as part of the parade. Arnold went anyway, but he had to be part of the crowd, not a special guest. I guess the Latino population is getting behind Davis and No on the recall. The community leaders are supporting the Governor.

[David__77]

23. We have a lot of work to do...

we cannot rely on scandal to do our work for us. I agree that his "dirty laundry" should be fully aired. However, we must not only politically destroy our opponents, but also make sure we get millions to the polls or to vote by mail, first to stop the recall and also to ensure no right-winger or opportunist swill wins the most votes on part two of the ballot.

[Democat]

33. The mainstream media will probably try to ignore this news

Unless we don't let them. Time to write some letters!

[Woodstock]

34. I thought the Drudge Report was rabidly Republican?

I've steered clear of it since the Clinton witch hunt.

Isn't that the case? And if so, why is he going after one of his own? The Republican media is usually blind to the faults of their own.

[qb]

40. He goes after whoever he has a beef with

in addition to the regular liberal-bashing. He really got into it with O'Reilly a while ago.

[Scurrilous]

44. He and O'Reilly went at it for awhile.

I think Drudge accused O'Reilly of trying to horn in on Rush's territory when O'Reilly came out with his radio show. I was watching O'Reilly one night and Bill was saying some truly nasty things about Drudge. At one point he claimed Drudge was 'smoking crack on Washington Ave.'(which is in South Beach were Drudge lives). Pretty funny stuff.

[oc2001]

36. Drudge is a ...

bad place to get any substantial news or information. As far as I know, this is all just more rumors and accusations.

[msmcghee]

39. No wonder the RW is so eager to insert him into office . .

. . he has a total lack of experience, minimal intellect, a recognizable name, he's sexist and now we find he's an outspoken racist.

He fits the RW mold so perfectly.

[Lindsey]

43. Davis was honestly elected less than one year ago

and I'm so confused why average Californians don't get it that
Enron was to blame for the crisis in 2001 - It was headlines in the L.A. Times for God's sake - Davis is being made a scapegoat and as a means for the Repubs. to take over CA in time for the 2004 Pres. election.He has not done ANYTHING to justify this. I can't even f'ing believe this is happening. I just hope I don't die of a heart attack before I can vote NO on recall and YES on Busamante as a backup. ANY DECENT DEMOCRAT/PROGRESSIVE MUST DO THE SAME! YOU HAVE NO CHOICE!!!!

[msmcghee]

47. I thought so too . .

. . but I talked to a girlfriend in CA last nite (I'm in WA) who is liberal but mad at Davis because she just lost her medical insurance. I guess Davis put a 3 year limit on state support for medical insurance for low incomers. Because she had a melanoma a few years ago it will now cost her over a thousand a month for private insurance. So she is now without insurance.

I can understand her feelings - but I'm not sure that the policy was wrong. I'd have to know what other options were considered. WA is getting ready to eliminate a similar program here and my medical insurance will also go way up. But I tend to blame the pukes. They are the ones who have totally screwed the states with their puke fiscal policies.

[TNOE]

49. Buhhhhbuhhhhbutttt -

he wasn't living his life preparing to run for Governor!! So that makes it okay - doesn't it??? <sarcasm off>

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

51. where are the polls?

anyone else noticed that the media hasn't done any since arnold's past came to light?

[denverbill]

53. Hahah. Since when is being a racist a bad thing for a Republican?

Hell, this announcement will probably help him with conservatives.

[TNOE]

55. Luckily - California is not very conservative

which is why they almost always vote Democratic. Thank God/ess for an open-minded society.

[denverbill]

56. That's true, but.......

Ahnold is neck-and-neck with McClintock in freeperville. Ahnold is MUCH more liberal than McClintock, as you know. If Ahnold can grab some conservative voters away from McClintock, he stands a chance.

Even California has it's share of right-wing racists.