Spc. Charles Graner found guilty on all 5 counts.....torture scandal

[franksumatra]

maltreatment of detainees, dereliction of duty, maltreatment of subordinates, aggravated assault, indecent acts....5 charges in all.

meahwhile, the top brass go free

[franksumatra]

1. booting this up

hope that's o.k.

[Disturbed]

2. A few more grunts and...

Gen. Karpinsky then the problem will have been dealt with. Any detainees that are suspected of being part of the "Insurgency" will be sent to a secret prison in Afghanistan or another country.

[franksumatra]

3. but Bush, Gonzales, and Rumsfeld still order slaughter and torture

It's a crazy world

[ChairOne]

4. Well, he *did* actually do the stuff he was accused of, didn't he?

A lot of people seem to believe in the false dichotomy of if-you-support-the-grunt's-conviction-then-you-don't-want-the-brass-as-well.

I want them all. The guys who did it, AND the guys who ordered it.

Is that so hard to understand?

[franksumatra]

5. They put Manson away for ordering murder

and they put Nazi war criminals away too, men who never sullied their hands with the blood of millions of innocents, only ordered it.

Mad dog killers in expensive suits. Unfortunately, only the subordinate soldiers will be punished, just as we all predicted.

[ChairOne]

6. Does your reply have anything to do with what I said? /eom