Is there a conspiracy behind Chronic Wasting Disease in Deer ?

[EVDebs]

How did a Mad Cow disease like prion get transferred to Deer ?

"Oh, Deer
Is chronic wasting disease the new mad cow?"

http://slate.msn.com/id/2095997/

And we were supposed to believe that a green monkey bite was the origin to AIDs too.

[FREEDOMRULES3]

1. different

very similar but slightly different , ask hunters in wisconsin if it exists. get your facts straight it does exist

[EVDebs]

5. so, you eat a lot of venison ? No a whole lotta differnce according

to this quote:

"CWD, like bovine spongiform encephalopathy and its human equivalent, variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, or vCJD, is known as a transmissible spongiform encephalopathy. Like other TSEs, CWD is believed to be caused by misshapen prion proteins that gradually take the place of normal proteins and destroy brain cells, causing large holes to form in the brain. TSE victims are left emaciated, stumbling, drooling—and, inevitably, dead. But there is no confirmed theory of how CWD is spread, as there is for BSE. (It is thought that cows acquired the infectious prions by eating feed made from sick animals, a theory that doesn't apply to deer and elk, who are still mostly grazers.) " from the slate.com article

Just wondering HOW deer, elk, acquired this prion since they're grass eaters. Plus, I thought I'd throw a little 'tinfoilhat' on with my teaser...

But I wouldn't eat a lot of venison knowing this is out there.

[Stepup2]

14. I have heard

the hypothesis that these animals have grazed in the the same pastures as cattle, and they pick it up this way. Not sure if this is plausible, but you could research it further.

[RoeBear]

2. What kind of conspiracy are

you imagining?

[EVDebs]

6. What did a deer eat in order to contract this CWD ?

Mad cow and CWD apparently are contracted by prions aren't they ?

[kikiek]

7. What I have read they don't know much. Didn't think proteins (prions)

could even cause disease before. Probably needs a lot more research. I wonder if there aren't lobbyists that fight the research from even occurring. I think we aren't told a lot about what goes on.

[SmokingJacket]

10. Scrapie is a prion disease of sheep...

transmitted -- I THINK -- by wounds. That is, the sheep have itchy wounds, they scrape the wounds against a fence or something, and other sheep rub against it... getting the goo in their eyes or something.

Maybe the deer thing is similar...

Sorry... I hope you're not reading this while eating dinner.

(I'm not scientist so please, correct me if I'm wrong)

[EVDebs]

8. Something along the lines of a CBW goof up only not confined to Plum Is.

But really. I just wanted to stir the pot and find out WHAT CAUSED A DEER to contract a disease that in humans at least started out something like Kuru, with canibalism. Deer aren't meat eaters.

[RoeBear]

13. I believe i've heard

it started with pen raised deer eating processed food.

[kikiek]

3. I don't think our government wants to know. Might hurt industry.

They would prefer we all be at risk than the multi million or billion dollar beef industry. http://foodhaccp.com/msgboard.mv?parm_func=showmsg+parm_msgnum=1007788

[Stepup2]

4. Not "new" mad cow

It exists along with mad cow. This is popping up in deer and Elk herds, and is some concern that it may pass more easliy to other mammals than thought before, ie mink, cats etc.

Sheep get a form of this too. Do not know about any conspiracy.

www.whyfiles.org/156cwd_deer/2.html

[supernova]

9. The article implies that

it's the deer and Elk ranchers with fenced in populations that might be the problem in the more sudden spread of CWD. Evendently, if you're a dunderhead of a hunter and can't go out in the wild to bag a deer for the season, you to one of these places where you are guaranteed a shot. :eyes:

The problem is, they aren't really sure yet, how CWD is spread. But it does exist. And it may be a problem if you consume a lot of wild game.

[htuttle]

11. Here's a local site about it

http://www.maddeer.org/

Everything you ever wanted to know about Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathies.

And yes, thousands of deer caught CWD over the last few years in WI alone.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

12. Hmmm, so it was imported in the feed?

Snip
2003 Wisconsin Act 240 extended the Department of Natural Resources’ authority to regulate the feeding of wildlife for non-hunting purposes, required that the DNR ban baiting and feeding for deer in counties at highest risk for disease transmission, and established standards for the baiting and feeding of deer outside these banned areas. This website was created to help the deer and bear hunter, as well as the recreational wildlife feeder to better understand the parameters established by Act 240 and the DNR rules that were implemented to help reduce the risk of Chronic Wasting Disease and Bovine Tuberculosis in Wisconsin.
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http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/land/wildlife/bait.htm

[soothsayer]

15. some say to get us to stop eating protein, we'll be more easily

controllable (passive and all that(

[Stepup2]

16. Well

there are many ways to consume protein without eating animal products.

[porkrind]

18. They're trying to contaminate our "precious bodily fluids"?

:eyes:

[hollowdweller]

17. I think a lot of these diseases have always been there but population

increase in deer herds and more intensive management in livestock is bringing it to our attention. Goats get a retrovirus called CAE Caprine Arthritic Encephalitis, and you can go back in these goat books 20 30 years and read people describe symptoms that were probably CAE, but only in the 80's did we finally figure it out. CAE isn't a prion though. Another thing is lack of genetic diversity. Some breeds of sheep are more suceptible to Scrapie than others so I think it also has to do with inbreeding which also is related to overpopulation.