Anyone here remember Iran-Contra scandal? The hearings and then

[anarchy1999]

the ultimate pardons as George the 1st went out? I do. Do you? I want these criminals removed from my government and I want our reps in the House and the Senate to make it happen. I demand ACCOUNTABILITY. Is anyone, EVER, going to take a stand?

[SHRED]

1. Sad to say...

but they have infested the administration:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1493979&mesg_id=1493979

[anarchy1999]

3. I'm outraged and my rage gets me no where. Why? Why are these

criminals running my country and why are "we" letting them? Did we all have a collective lobotomy and I missed it? Why are we letting this happen and where are our representatives? Our elected officials? What the F is going on? Are we all this stupid?

[SHRED]

4. The mainstream media(msm) TV culture

has melted the average citizen's critical thinking into a pile of goo.

They open their collective mouths and swallow the spoon fed kool-aid daily.
The 2 word slogan oriented TV consciousness rules the airwaves.
The TV culture beast is in charge.

[brindis_desala]

2. they run the government and the courts

that's why the country's in this mess. Nobody listened in 2000 when Conyers said it was a coup. well now the country's stuck with being run by convicted felons.

[G_j]

5. A BIGGER, BADDER SEQUEL TO IRAN-CONTRA

I watched or listened to pretty much the entire Iran/Contra whitewash and was a regular listener to WBAI's (NYC Pacifica station) "Contragate".

If Congress had not rolled over, we would not be where we are today because many of these folks would be in jail.

the article below was written in 2003.

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A BIGGER, BADDER SEQUEL TO IRAN-CONTRA

Jim Lobe, AlterNet

Just like Ollie North and his cohorts, a small network of officials are pursuing a covert foreign policy agenda -- except their aims are vastly more ambitious.

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=16597

The specter of the Iran-Contra affair is haunting Washington. Some of the people and countries are the same, and so are the methods ? particularly the pursuit by a network of well-placed individuals of a covert, parallel foreign policy that is at odds with official policy.
Boiled down to its essentials, the Iran-Contra affair was about a small group of officials based in the National Security Agency (NSA) and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) that ran an "off-the-books" operation to secretly sell arms to Iran in exchange for hostages. The picture being painted by various insider sources in the media suggests a similar but far more ambitious scheme at work.

Taken collectively, what these officials describe and what is already on the public record suggests the existence of a disciplined network of zealous, like-minded individuals. Centered in Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith's office and around Richard Perle in the Defense Policy Board in the Pentagon, this exclusive group of officials operates under the aegis of Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, Pentagon chief Donald Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney.

This network includes high-level political appointees, such as Undersecretary of State John Bolton, who are scattered around several other key bureaucracies, notably in the State Department, the NSC staff, and most importantly, in Cheney's office.
...more..

[anarchy1999]

6. Thank you for posting this. I needed it, yet I still can't reconcile

myself with what is happening now. Thank you again.

[G_j]

9. it is highly disturbing

perhaps the single component of the story that was the real "third rail" of the "investigations" was the arms/cocaine connections along with the witnesses, many of whom suffered "accidental" deaths along the way.

[anarchy1999]

12. Just as much loved kick back to the top.

n/t

More people need to be informed.

[apple_ridge]

7. If you want to get really in to it, read

Al Martin's book, "The Conspirators"

http://www.almartinraw.com/

[anarchy1999]

8. No one yet has answered my question. Where is the accountability?

Where is the outrage, where are our elected officials? Why are "we" letting them get away with this? The rest of the world is watching and asking the same questions.

[G_j]

10. it is a great question

but I for one can't figure it out either. :shrug:

[tousiswritten]

11. Some times you can't go with the army you want,

You go with the army you have. We've got enough proof,and almost sixty million people who think this election was stolen. Bushs'greatest fear is the people, or there would be no need to squelch MSM. We have a huge advantage. Bush can't say a word without alerting "the people".

Ukrainian type protest do work, a peaceful in their face demonstration that won't go away. Is anyone co-ordinating our grass roots organizations or get the 20% mobilized? That should be our main effort. Folks we have to get involved and the only thing that fifty nine or sixty million people have to prove is that we can and will back our document.

They have to see us to believe us, get enough people involved and no one would have to demonstrate for more than one day. We should protest everything this gov't does until we can be assured that the last THREE elections were ligitimate.