They Are The Shadow Government...

[kentuck]

Think of our Declaration of Independence. When a government becomes something that is no longer of the people, we have an obligation to get rid of that government. I am not calling for any violent overthrow - because this country is too militaristic and it would be suicidal to ever attempt anything like that.

However, there is nothing that says we cannot have another
"constitutional convention." Has that time arrived? Do we need representatives from each state that will swear to uphold the Constitution and will work for the benefit and welfare of the people, rather than the wealthy and the corporations?

I'm sure, if we tried, we could find volunteers to set up a new Senate and a new House of Representatives. We would declare the present government null and void. The executive branch is not legitimate and does not merit, nor does it have, the support of the people. Once established, we would challenge them to a battle at the polls.

Any government would need the support of the people in order to be considered legitimate. It would take people of vision and people of courage. Only with the support of the people could we challenge the legitimacy of the status quo. We would have to beat them at the ballot box. Once the new government was formed and the leaders of the new "constitution" were established, would it be possible to challenge the Washington power structure for control of the government. It would be a challenge to both the Democratic and the Republican Party structures. Any volunteers? :)

[E_Zapata]

1. That is so weird! I just wrote a CALL TO ACTION

and was about to post it on the Portland Indymedia sites for each state!

Read on, brother:

Call for 2 volunteers in each state to serve on the new People’s Congress for Peace!

The peace movement needs to organize. We need to bring together all the activists in each state in some way. I have been harping about this for months. The answer whenever we need to make some mark about something is: get moveon.org or international_answer.org or the United for Peace people to CALL AN ACTION.

Yet we have peace activists going nuts everyday, crying for the people to take to the streets. Wondering where the overt outrage is about what is going on in Washington. People writing scathing letters to their reps and to the newspaper editors.

There are sooooo many of us out there but we don’t seem to get organized. Every peace org out there has its agenda (all very similar) but no one is binding together the PEOPLE into a cohesive, effective political instrument that can demand answers and change and results.

So, I am going to START my own organization: The People’s Congress for Peace (PCP).

I had always envisioned that something like this would grow from the grassroots level to a national level. But given events since the turn of the new year with the installation of the Dept of Homeland Security to the invasion of Iraq to the deplorable “tax cuts to the rich” and the environmental abuses to the manipulation and abuse of federal agencies by the Bush Cabal for its own agendas, I have to try a different approach.

I am looking for TWO people from each state who will serve as founding members of the People’s Congress for Peace. I am making this up as I go, so please give me some leeway.

If we can create an organization of 100 people (notice: same number of Senators) to serve as spokespeople for their state and as liaisons with the Congress and their state’s legislatures, and somehow bring legitimacy to the PCP, I think we can effectively demand answers and changes.

To give legitimacy to the PCP as to the people, we will need to write an initial mission statement, get a website, recruit TWO peace activists from each state, write articles as to our mission, and absolutely setup a way for each state to ELECT their two reps. It’s a shoe-string, fly by night project initially. Each volunteer rep must agree to step down after an election is held, should they not win.

Just seems to me we need to just ORGANIZE a national group of peace activists and work down from there to organize the grassroots in each state. Cause lord knows, I have made many a call to action among activists to create a national convention.

I have had it up to here with the hijacking of this country and I say no more! Our individual voices don’t mean anything. We have to create an umbrella organization that can go back to its constituents in their state to call for ACTION.

[kentuck]

2. I see the need for something more drastic...

We find representatives to replace those in Washington. Get rid of them all. Start over. Start from scratch. It would be a People's Revolution. Our present government is too corrupt to save. Once we get our Representatives from each state, we challenge them nationwide in a grassroots movement that would make their hair stand on end and get them a Greyhound ticket out of town.

[E_Zapata]

3. Well, a peace and justice person isn't going to take over congress

next year......

or the following year.

Or the next.

We have to rile up the people right now. I would envision people from the People's Congress gaining entry into mainstream politics.

I actually envision the PCP as throwing the bums out much sooner, starting with impeaching bush, et al and making them stand trial.

There is no reason why the people can't FORCE a select 5 S Ct justices to step down out of SHAME!

From Watergate: Have you no shame? There is not shame in the current power usurpers. None. Pointdexter is like a person of honor in 2003?

[kentuck]

5. They need to feel the wrath of the people...

Otherwise, their reality would never accept any changes to the present status quo. They are corrupt. Not every individual, but as a body, as a whole.

[Eloriel]

4. Let's do it Dean's way --

a complete revitalization of the Party and the democratic process itself.

Less work, more fun.

Eloriel

[maggrwaggr]

7. even if Dean wins, 90% of the other "Joe Bidens" are still there

this is what worries me about this election. Even if Dean or one of our guys wins, the Neocons are still gonna be out there. They're still gonna have money. They're still gonna be plotting. And they're still gonna be extremely powerful.

We need a whole new system where they don't have any power.

They need to be defanged.

[kentuck]

8. You are correct maggrwaggr...

Howard Dean is only one man. We could change the executive but we would still have the corrupt system that is rotten to the core. It is they that need t be changed.

[maggrwaggr]

6. wow! I LOVE LOVE LOVE this idea!!!

:kick:

This is EXACTLY what needs to happen. The system is broken. It needs to be replaced. 100% EXACTLY RIGHT. Peacefully! But forcefully!

[leftofthedial]

9. that's sedition

and all the south haters here will nail you for it.

Although that, or something like it, is the only way I see to get us back to the real America instead of this propaganda driven, through-the-looking-glass, Orwellian nightmare the Bush Cabal have foisted on us.

[kentuck]

10. Once organized and established...

We would challenge them at the polls...Hardly sedition. Just good old original democracy. :) And we would beat them!

[w4rma]

11. What makes you think that the same big money folks who have corrupted

the current system won't corrupt the new one?

We need to get big money out of politics and it's going to take some time, IMHO.

[Clete]

13. Because you learn from your mistakes.

In the new constitution you will put in provisions that will prevent this from happening at least for another 200 years. It's worth a try. A peaceful revolution. If it gains popularity then the corrupt government will have to step down.

[Sterling]

12. ShadowGovernment.info

I am the Shadow Government.