Clint Eastwood, a class act and a Republican I can respect

[NNguyenMD]

Why? Because he doesn't let stupid crap like politics get in the way of what his real passion are, making great movies and telling moving stories. Mutual respect between he and his actors is another reason why guys like Sean Penn and Tim Robbins love him like their winning football coach, his passion for movies stand above all else.

Republican he may be, but a domineering icon in American cinema is how he will be remembered.

[izzie]

1. I do not go along with you. Sorry

--

[WI_DEM]

2. I like Eastwood, I don't know if he is as Republican as he once was

I see him as kind of libertarian. His latest film is excellent.

[Ezlivin]

3. Yeah, but can he handle a gun?

I spent the late 60s and early 70s watching him literally light up the screen in gems like "Dirty Harry" and "The Gauntlet".

He's aged and like wine he's gotten better.

Who among us does not think that his more recent work is his best?

[candy]

107. He'll always be cute little Rowdy Yates to me!!!!!!!

[specimenfred1984]

4. Supporting Torture, Rigged Elections: Who Cares Right?????

He tells a good story!!!

Can I have some of those pills too doc?

[NNguyenMD]

9. show me where it says he's an avid supporter of rigged elections

and supporting torture, and I'll change my mind. Btw, he supported Sean Penn when Penn went to Baghdad to protest the war, and when asked about the invasion he calls it a mistake.

Looks like Freeper's aren't the only ones who recklessly prejudge others and immediately jump to unsubstantiated conclusions after all.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

10. Eastwood's wife is a Democrat. He said that she made him...

more into a moderate, which is a good thing. The fewer right winger/FReeper types, the better off we all are.

[sonicx]

30. you gotta source for that?

;)

[Zomby Woof]

130. In an interview I read last year - USA Weekend

He said "I've never thought of myself as a conservative, although I am no ultra-leftist either."

He strikes me a common-sense independent. Considering what his directing talent has gotten out of such leftist icon actors as Tim Robbins, Morgan Freeman, Sean Penn, and the like, he is no soulless repub.

[OutsourceBush]

140. did he vote republican? then he is a supporter of torture

[jrthin]

12. I swear. Amazing.

It's like listening to the rethugs when told the ineptness of * will comment, "yeah, but he seems like a nice, down to earth guy." Huh?

[NNguyenMD]

36. I never recalled hearing of Clint Eastwood supporting the war in Iraq...

much less causing one. Precisely what fundamentalist, hard-right leaning action has Clint Eastwood done? All I know is last year he made Mystic River, a movie demostrating the devasting physical, and psychological consequences of people who have suffered from child molestation and exploitation. He, Sean Penn, and Tim Robbins have said and done a hell of a lot more for child abuse victims than most will in a lifetime.

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. I hear he could dig a hell of a swimming pool too!

He is a stupid movie actor for Christ sakes.

[SouthernDem2004]

6. The Outlaw Josey Wales...

I think was his best movie.

[illflem]

7. Look at his record as mayor of Carmel, Calif

to see he is a true Rep at heart. During his tenure he favored big business and repealed a long standing ban on fast food restaurants in the effluent town. He did abolish the town's law against frisbee throwing though.

[fob]

17. "effluent" town. Paging Dr Freud, paging Dr Freud.

Good one, by the way.

[illflem]

101. Yeah, I have a hard time with effect and affect too

[Lefty48197]

8. I hear his new movie is going to be a classic

Million Dollar Baby, I think it's called. About a female boxer, and her coach. I've heard very high praise from the critics about this film. Category: Chick film.

[pa28]

11. Then there was that crack he made about shooting Michael Moore.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/270757p-231851c.html

Sorry, he lost me there. Not classy and not funny no matter how you slice it.

[NNguyenMD]

13. dude c'mon it was a joke, and way more overblown than it was meant to be

You're reading the NY Daily News btw, they're not exactly known for holding back their sensationalist tendencies.

And besides, what else would you expect Dirty Harry to say? I think the main point he was making was that he loves the fact that there freedom of speech for everybody including Michael Moore.

[bobbyboucher]

39. What a reach!

"he loves the fact that there freedom of speech for everybody including Michael Moore."

Not what it sounded like to me. It sounded just exactly like a threat. "Don't come to my door or I will shoot you. I mean it."

Ha ha ha. Real fucking funny.

[NNguyenMD]

44. it is when its coming from Dirty Harry

[bobbyboucher]

50. Whatthefuckever.

Dirty Harry is a character, Clint Eastwood was issuing a real-life threat. Ha ha ha ha.

[NNguyenMD]

53. oh WOW man are you serious? DUUUUUUUUUDE I didn't know that

How many years of post-graduate work did it take you to finally learn this exclusive piece of information?

[Name removed]

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[NNguyenMD]

72. well lets take a step back for a second here, from that same NY Daily News

gossip piece

"Michael Moore and I actually have a lot in common - we both appreciate living in a country where there's free expression," Eastwood told the star-dotted crowd attending the National Board of Review awards dinner at Tavern on the Green, where Eastwood picked up a Special Filmmaking Achievement prize for "Million Dollar Baby."

Then, the Republican-leaning actor/director advised the lefty filmmaker: "But, Michael, if you ever show up at my front door with a camera - I'll kill you."

The audience erupted in laughter, and Eastwood grinned dangerously.

"I mean it," he added, provoking more guffaws.

Sitting well out of range at a table in back, Moore - who received a special "Freedom of Expression" award for his anti-Bush polemic "Fahrenheit 9/11" - chuckled.

Was Clint admiring the fact that he and Michael Moorehave freedom of speech in America? Check

Did people laugh? Check

Did Michael Moore laugh? Check

so what exactly is the problem here?

[bobbyboucher]

84. You're mind reading again.

MM chuckling doesn't mean it wasn't in disgust. I'm chuckling right now too. Tell me why?

That free-speech crap could have been just a red-herring for what followed, A THREAT TO KILL HIM!

I can think of a thousand ways to kid with MM about a surprise interview, all of them without including "I WILL KILL YOU". Can't you?

[wtmusic]

160. Call him what you will

He joked about killing Michael Moore, implying he doesn't agree with Michael Moore. I don't give a rat's ass whether he calls himself a Republican or a Libertarian or a Fiscaliberalenvironmentalist -- he's messing with someone who's worked tirelessly to expose Republican lies which have cost thousands of lives, run up a huge deficit, and are trashing the environment.

Most importantly, his "joke" was made to someone who travels with a cadre of bodyguards because of real death threats. So excuse me if I don't agree that Clint is very, very funny. Fuck him, and the horse he rode in on.

[NNguyenMD]

163. he supported Sean Penn to go to Baghdad and protest the war...

That may not seem big to you, but it most certainly drives the freepers crazy when they realize that he supported one of their favorite celebrity targets, Sean Penn, make such a provocative protest against a Baghdad backdrop, and also help rejuvenate his career by directing him in Mystic River.

[wtmusic]

164. So what

he supported Sean in his constitutional right to speak out against the war. I support Newt Gingrich in his right to say whatever he wants to. Newt's still an asshole.

Did he support his views as well? Ah, there's the rub.

[NNguyenMD]

166. yeah he was against the war...read the article

http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/chi-031019dpeastwood-story,1,803956.story

[democracyindanger]

15. Except

he never made a crack about shooting Moore.

And Moore laughed.

In fact the whole room laughed.

But don't let the facts get in your way.

[bobbyboucher]

41. He didn't?

What did he say then?

[democracyindanger]

51. Read the article.

[bobbyboucher]

68. Link the article.

Or tell us what it said smart guy.

[democracyindanger]

82. Link

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/270757p-231851c.html

Guess I was wrong to assume that somebody who's energetically arguing about the content of an article has actually, you know, read it--or the preceding post in the thread that linked it.

Me, I prefer to know what I'm talking about before I actually talk about it. But then, like you said, I'm the smart guy.

[Name removed]

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[democracyindanger]

91. Then why

did you ask me to link it? And you're confusing your arguments. This particular sub-thread was about whether he said "shoot" or not. You're arguing with someone else on some other sub-thread about the humor content of "I will kill you."

I'd figure somebody with a handle like "bobbyboucher" would have a wide-ranging sense of humor. Guess not.

[yellowjacket]

18. Did you read the article?

It was a joke. Moore took it as such. Lighten up.

[sonicx]

28. the poster said it wasn't funny...

I don't think so either. I guess I don't find jokes about shooting political opponents funny.

[democracyindanger]

38. Too bad he never threated to shoot him, huh?

Damn. If people actually read the fucking article--and it's not even really an article, it's a GOSSIP COLUMN--before climbing on their high horses, it'd do a world of good.

[sonicx]

42. ok, "kill"

that's even worse.

[NNguyenMD]

45. yeah and don't forget its a totally unsensationalist newspaper too

[sonicx]

54. There are other sources and the situation is pretty clear

I'm not claiming it wasn't a joke. I'm saying it's not funny, even coming from a guy like him.

[bobbyboucher]

46. So you're reading Michael Moore's mind now.

Tell me what I am thinking.

I'll even give you a hint: Moooooooooo.

[NNguyenMD]

62. from the same NY Daily News article...

But, in this case, Moore's rep told me yesterday: "Michael laughed along with everyone else, and took Mr. Eastwood's comments in the lighthearted spirit in which they were given."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/270757p-231851c.html

[bobbyboucher]

69. That's what MM spokesperson said. What did

Michael really think. You read his mind, let us in on it.

[NNguyenMD]

76. yeah god forbid that Mike's spokeman release a statement that MM approved

[bobbyboucher]

92. Quit dodging the FACT

that Clint Eastwood threatened to kill Michael Moore.

[NNguyenMD]

96. hmm...no Senator I was not in Cambodia on Christmas eve of 1968

there you got me to say it please don't kill me!

[bobbyboucher]

99. Sorry about raising questions during your idol worship.

Wouldn't want to doubt your certainties. That MM threat was really classy.

[w4rma]

133. I don't think it was funny either. (nt)

[ldf]

154. i think it could have been taken as a joke

if he had left off the "i mean it" comment.

michael should have said "right back at ya, harry", laughing all the while.

in today's climate it was definitely NOT funny. YMMV, IMHO, KMA

:-)

[pa28]

60. Yikes. Forget I mentioned anything.

I'm pretty sure we're all on the same side here.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

14. supporting the bush admin is morally wrong and inherently classless n/t

[autorank]

19. Did he support *? I hadn't heard that.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

21. if hes still a republican

then isnt that what it implies?

[NNguyenMD]

27. are you suggesting that not a single Republican voted for Kerry?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

31. do you know if he voted for kerry?

cos the obvious conclusion is that he didnt...is there ANYTHING to suggest that he voted for kerry?

[autorank]

48. No and neither do you. Why don't you run this one down.

In the mean time, who cares. He did offer to campaign against Arnold. Isn't that enough!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

63. in my opinion it isnt enough

[NNguyenMD]

49. yeah there is, he was against the war...here's the link

hope you take the trouble to register and find out for yourself.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/entertainment/special_packages/academy_awards/trailers/6962549.htm

[autorank]

145. Were you responding to me?

I think we agree that Eastwood is not a knee jerk Repuke. I liked the article and I'm not bashing Eastwood. I like him as an artist as well.

I think his attitude toward Penn says it all (as outlined in the article). The guy is comfortable enough with who he is to be around all sorts of people. Penn is, I expect, pretty good company anyway.

[NNguyenMD]

146. No I was responding to the other guy, and I'm in total agreement with you

[autorank]

147. Cool, I think your threat makes a lot of sense.

It's amazing that there is such venom based soley on a label, i.e., party affiliation. Gettin rough around here.

[democracyindanger]

20. And Eastwood's supported Chimpy how, exactly?

Hmm?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

22. he supports the policies bush supports else he would have declared himself

a non-repub by now, no?

i dont know anything about clint nor do i care...i just dont think any person who identifies as a republican now has any class or morals

[Stevendsmith]

23. I agree. NT

[democracyindanger]

24. So even if a registered Republican voted for Kerry

by your standard, he would still be a Chimpy supporter. Not that I know how Eastwood voted, or if he voted at all--I just want to be sure I understand you correctly.

Because a person hasn't changed their party affiliation, that is tacit approval of Bush, is that it? Even if they were one of the many moderate Republicans that came out against him? Still a Chimp supporter, huh?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

25. do you know if he voted for kerry?

if not, i would assume a republican voted for bush


on edit: and yes i think bush is disgusting enough that you should switch political affiliations because you are sufficiently upset with him.

[NNguyenMD]

29. Thats just nice, guilt by association. What a very liberal concept

to hold on to.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

34. cos ofcourse individual members of the KKK arent judged by their

association :eyes:

i am liberal not a naive idiot...these are different things

[democracyindanger]

33. Did you even read my post?

Because if you did, you wouldn't have asked that question.

I find Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman disgusting. But since I'm still a Democrat, and the party hasn't done anything to get rid of them, I guess that means I support everything that comes out of their pieholes.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

35. Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman

arent leading the democratic party. and not creating ALL policy for the dems either.

in fact miller retired this year.

[democracyindanger]

47. You're right. Your way is much simpler.

You have shown me the light. I will now have a knee-jerk reaction to every gossip column I read. I will cut off all contact with friends and acquaintances that are still registered Republicans, despite the fact they voted for Kerry. I will not judge people by the content of their character, but by what box they have checked on their voter registration card.

[arcane1]

56. if they voted for Kerry...

then why are they republicans? Stupidity? :shrug:

I don't recall LP saying you should cut off all contact w/repube friends, where did you get that from?

strawman?

[NNguyenMD]

59. b/c they think that they are voting against Bush, not the values that they

think that their party still stands for. Like balanced budgets, less instrusive government, and no nation building. You know, all the stuff Bush campaigned for in 2000 but did the very opposite of.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

61. we had balanced budgets under clinton.

[NNguyenMD]

64. Yeah and b/c we don't have one now REPUBLICANS voted Kerry

[La Lioness Priyanka]

73. and most republican didnt vote for kerry....if they did he would have won

this election dont you think?

[NNguyenMD]

78. yeah but the point was not all of them are evil sickening bastards

and these are some of the Republicans who did vote Kerry

http://www.republicansforkerry.org/

[La Lioness Priyanka]

88. i didnt say he was evil. i said he supported evil

and you said maybe he voted for kerry....and i said well show me some proof...and you are now just wildly speculating that he voted for kerry,

did some republicans vote for kerry...sure...but is clint eastwood one of them? there is nothign to prove that he did

[NNguyenMD]

95. you know, I said some Republicans voted Kerry. I don't know where you get

that I said "Clint" voted Kerry. I just didn't want you to paint all Republicans under one brush as SailorGirlW so eloqunetly said.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

98. we are talking about clint eastwood

i am SURE some republicans voted for kerry...it hardly matters if the one i said i dont respect didnt, does it?

[NNguyenMD]

103. so uuh...like whats your point? Ok so I don't know if he voted Kerry

I don't if he voted Bush, but I'll bet you dollars to pesos that he voted for La Rouche!!! j/k Yeah man ok I'll let you off the hook, if you hate him b/c of the fact that he may or may not be a registered Republican then go on hating him.

Forget the fact that he thought that the war was a mistake, and supported Sean Penn when Penn asked him what he thought if going to Baghdad to protest the war would hurt the movie Mystic River. Yeah just forget ALL of that and reinforce that little factoid that b/c Clint COULD be a Republican, he is not worthy of your respect.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

104. i dont hate him either

i just dont understand glorifying a republican on a democratic board.

[arcane1]

102. you mean sailorgirlw the tombstoned freeper troll?

:shrug:

[NNguyenMD]

105. dude leave her alone she's new

[arcane1]

106. no, she's gone

tomb-stoned

[La Lioness Priyanka]

108. sailorgirl was eloquently removed from DU too

you get your support from freepers...good job!

[NNguyenMD]

109. whats SW?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

110. sorry i got distracted by work, i meant du

the sentiment still holds

[NNguyenMD]

111. thanks, those were very trollish remarks like "read post #40" or "thanks"

how very disruptive she was, bravo to you, bravo.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

112. i am sure the admins knew what they were doing...

they probably matched the email address to a freepers or an ip address etc

[arcane1]

113. you say that as if LP was the one who banned her

please :eyes:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

114. glorifying republicans...mocking liberals....

what does that sound like to you

[arcane1]

115. hmm...

dare I say it? :P

[La Lioness Priyanka]

116. are you gonna say kittens...cos if you are...your way off

:silly:

[arcane1]

117. oh gods no

kittens would never glorify republicans! :silly:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

119. nor puppies n/t

[arcane1]

121. hey you sound like an 8th-grader

:silly:

[NNguyenMD]

122. wow, that really came out of left field...

but seriously though with all this tension, a good movie for two love birds to see could only do good. Don't you guys like Hilary Swank or Morgan Freeman? I don't think they're Republicans now are they?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

129. actually this isnt causing me tension....

[La Lioness Priyanka]

123. dont i just?

:silly:

[arcane1]

124. I favour the 4th grade, personally

:crazy:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

125. well you definitely sound like your in 10th grade

mature men are SO HOT to 8th graders

[arcane1]

yay!

I'm a grown-up! :bounce:

[NNguyenMD]

126. you mean to date? thats pretty gross. are you sure you haven't seen

Mystic River?

[arcane1]

131. no, not to date, silly

to marry! :silly:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

132. dude what are you talking about...clearly we are joking!

the reference is one of maturity levels not age

[NNguyenMD]

134. well I'm not one to interrupt sparkling chemistry between two kids in love

you two enjoy yourselves now you hear?

[arcane1]

135. chemistry is not until 11th grade

still have a few more years before we get around to that

[La Lioness Priyanka]

136. we are enjoying ourselves...

whats your issue?

[arcane1]

137. failed 8th grade, perhaps?

:shrug:

:silly:

my bell is about to ring anyway, time for recess! :bounce:

catch you tomorrow on the school bus :P

[La Lioness Priyanka]

139. remember to bring lunch money

[arcane1]

141. I'll remember to ask mom for some

:P

[NNguyenMD]

138. not a damn thing, look into Million Dollar Baby though, if not for Clint

than for Hillary Swank. She was very brave to do the role of Brandon Teena (or Tina) in Boy's Don't Cry. It doesn't look like Clint has donated to a presidential candidate in awhile too, so you don't have to worry about sending your dollars to Bush. Enjoy guys!

[arcane1]

142. swank did indeed kick utter ass in boys don't cry

highly recommended :thumbsup:


(my big brother snuck me in to that one :P )

[NNguyenMD]

120. you know what, arcane1 should take LP to see "Million Dollar Baby"

you guys seem like a good fit with each other.

[democracyindanger]

79. Don't know

It's their choice. I think they're stupid. They don't. Maybe they mistakenly think they can 'save' their party. Maybe they don't change because they've just become accustomed to it. Maybe they like the envelopes. I don't know.

I just try to judge people on more than a voter registration card and one dumb--and misinterpreted--fucking gossip column.

Yep, you're right. Reading it now, it's a strawman. I'll admit to it, although it wasn't intentional. But is a strawman more or less reprehensible a dialectic tactic than giving a false impression of an article? You be the judge. Just read the article first.

[Telly Savalas]

169. Why were Reagan Democrats members of the Democratic Party?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

170. i dont know...but anyone who this reaganomics is moral

is wrong...

[La Lioness Priyanka]

58. you still havent showed me at what point he voted for kerry

[democracyindanger]

87. And you still haven't read my post

From #24:

So even if a registered Republican voted for Kerry by your standard, he would still be a Chimpy supporter. Not that I know how Eastwood voted, or if he voted at all--I just want to be sure I understand you correctly.

<sigh>

[La Lioness Priyanka]

94. i would personally switch party affiliations because of bush

but i can understand peopel who want to save the GOP

however i still dont see where clint voted for kerry...and why i am supposed to respect republicans

[autorank]

16. Clint told Davis he'd make Anti-Arnold ads for the CA Recall.

OK, do you know how awesome this is. It puts Clint in the fucking hall of fame, regardless of party. I'm sorry the Davis campaign didn't take him up (probably indicative of why there was a recount in the first place). Clint saying Arnold is an asshole on the tube would have shot down Arnold like a caged pigeon at a Chaney-Scalia hunting event.

He is an outstanding director and one who may be a bit to the center politically (and who cares) but who loves jazz, his art, and embrases talent (e.g., Penn, Robins, etc.).

There was a thread about a comment Clint made to Michael Moore which, if it comes up below, I can assure you was a joke.

Clint's one of the good guys (and served in an appointed capacity in the Davis administration on a state park/forest panel of some sort).

[Mr. Blonde]

26. Clint is an American Icon

He will be remembered for his movies in the years to come. Why he can't be respected for them now I don't understand.

Conservatives are all in a tizzy over Million Dollar Baby though. It bothers them that a movie about euthanasia is a good movie. I would hate to think Clint is alienating both sides of the aisle at this late date in his career.

[Skittles]

32. he identifies himself as a republican

a group which is anti-worker, anti-women, homophobic, etc. Sorry, no amount of "good film making" makes up for the fact that people like Clint are what is WRONG with America right now - they are supporting FASCISM and THE DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

37. good point

[NNguyenMD]

40. I swear you guys are no different that the conservatives who refuse to

acknowledge the remote possibility that one of us could be a decent human being. I think that you'll find that that kind of strict dogmatism doesn't gain anything of value.

[Name removed]

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[NNguyenMD]

57. go ahead...make my day

[bobbyboucher]

71. Funny only to

simpletons.

Are you going to answer or dodge?

[NNguyenMD]

80. that only depends, do you feel lucky punk?

[bobbyboucher]

89. More of the same conspicuous cowardice,

just answer the question.

Conspicuous how, you ask?

[NNguyenMD]

93. what was the question again? I wasn't paying attention to you

[bobbyboucher]

97. Yeah, your continued replies are certain evidence of that.

Whatev.

[SailorGirlW]

70. I agree with you

Some of you are painting with a very large brush, don't you think??? Why does any Democrat have to hate someone because they're Republican? Don't some of us have Republican friends?? I know I do.

[bobbyboucher]

77. Who said that?

Most, if not all of the objection to the original post is directed at Clint's recent threat directed at Michael Moore.

Too bad about your friends' lobotomies. It's an epidemic.

[SailorGirlW]

81. Read post #40

[bobbyboucher]

100. I'll ask again,

who said that? Not who claimed that it was said, who posted it?

[two gun sid]

151. Hey Bobby

To: Darksheare; MeekOneGOP

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2963052


Come on guys, I'm up to my butt in alligators over here at DU. I'm signed in today as "bobbyboucher". Help me out.

24 posted on 01/17/2005 5:01:29 PM PST by bad company (if guns cause crime, then keyboards cause spelling mistakes)
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[NNguyenMD]

153. jesus, this guy had over 1000 posts too...what do we do with this guy?

apparently also a donor

[Name removed]

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[Tom Yossarian Joad]

83. Welcome to DU, SailorGirlW

I like Eastwood's films as well.

I watch his films, not his politics. I've never dissected any of his movies, but have not noticed any in which there was some blatant message that upset me.

All Repugs are not Satan. Some are just a little misguided.

[SailorGirlW]

85. thanks

You said it much better than I did!

[NNguyenMD]

90. welcome to DU SailorGirlW!

[Skittles]

75. I don't support people who support fascism, torture, etc

no I don't, and THEY cannot claim that I do. THEIR beef with me is I care about other things besides me, myself and I. Sorry, I can no longer respect anyone who would - after all that has happened - call themselves a republican. Just cannot do it.

[donheld]

156. After the things Repuglicans have done

over the last 12 years it's hard for some of us to find much value in repuglicans. It's almost a free country so you can treasure your repugs if you want to, but don't expect all of us to join you.

[TexasBushwhacker]

43. I know that he voted for Perot in 1992

I think he's more an old fashioned Republican, a true conservative, than a neocon. Unless someone finds a quote where he supports GWB, I doubt it.

[autorank]

52. And Perot hates Bush. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

This discussion is getting off track. Where are the facts? He's not a Freeper and he's not a social bigot and he makes a hell of a movie. If you don't like his movies, don't go...that simple.

[murielm99]

65. Look at this.

http://newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Clint_Eastwood.php

I doubt that he is some idealogue.

Let him make his movies, and let's pick our battles.

[Catchawave]

67. I adore Clint, always will.....BUT

..though he threatened MM in jest, he could have used the classic "Make My Day Michael Moore" ? Instead of threatening to "kill" him ?

MM's creative genius must be in overload right now..I hope.

[gottaB]

74. Eastwood describes himself as a Libertarian --n/t

[Guns Aximbo]

118. Nooooooo!

I think he's very left of center. Are you sure he's a fascist?

[the_outsider]

127. politics is stupid crap ? and it's something that just gets in the way

Not how I look at politics and how it interacts with an artist's passion and sensibilities.

[ArtVandaley]

128. He defended Robbins and Sarandon's right to free speech

When the Baseball Hall of Fame's president (an arch-conservative) said they couldn't come to a screening of Bull Duram in Cooperstown, Eastwood stood up for them and said that they had the right to say what ever they wanted, and he was obviously pissed that they were being censored.
I like Clint. I think he's a master of his craft, and I love westerns.

[NNguyenMD]

144. thats precisely what I mean, a respectful classy kind of guy to do that

[Contrary1]

150. I think somebody's messing with you...

To: Darksheare; MeekOneGOP
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2963052

Come on guys, I'm up to my butt in alligators over here at DU. I'm signed in today as "bobbyboucher". Help me out.

24 posted on 01/17/2005 5:01:29 PM PST by bad company (if guns cause crime, then keyboards cause spelling mistakes)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1322748/posts

[NNguyenMD]

152. I think you're right, what a damn shame. What happens to bobbyboucher?

[sonicx]

155. makes no sense. You can't have a 1000 posts in one day.

[Contrary1]

165. He's either

been trolling a long time, or someone in Freeperville is trying
to start something by posting that message over there, knowing
one of us would see it. The moderators will figure it out.

[OnionPatch]

143. I USED to really like him

but sorry, I have no respect for ANYONE who votes for this current batch of sorry bastards.

[immoderate]

148. Clint, if you're reading this,

see what you can do about getting the "Gauntlet" souundtrack released on CD. Thanks.

--IMM

[riverwalker]

149. Burge wrote a great book years ago

"Who Are God’s People in the Middle East? What Christians Are Not Being Told About Israel and the Palestinians" (Zondervan, 1993).

I read it to understand what the heck was going on over there after a tour. He uses biblical and historical sources. Some of it is heartbreaking, like the tortures used in Israeli prisons. The back of the book has origonal poetry by various people.

[donheld]

157. "Class acts" don't support classless policies

[NNguyenMD]

158. but they do support Sean Penn and Tim Robbins's first amendment rights

he may or may not agree with us on a lot of things, but the fact that he defended his actor's rights to say what they gotta say demonstrates a lot of class, and warrants mutual respect.

[wtmusic]

161. Big deal

He supports the law which gives Sean and Tim their right. I'm very proud of Clint; he's not going to try to take it away from them. He gets a big ol' pat on the head. :eyes:

[NNguyenMD]

167. look whatever man, its pointless trying to change your opinion of him...

Fact is, he's not one of those ideologues who shuts out other people's opinions, and I'll bet is at least willing to listen to what you have to say about something before he judges you by the look of your voter registration card.

Call him a freeper or and whatever else you've got to say about him, I'm glad that there's still people willing to let you speak and listen, instead of just judging you on the spot based on nothing else.

[donheld]

162. It is not his "right" to threaten to kill Michael.

Ever

[ComerPerro]

168. Professional, yes. But I honestly don't respect any Republicans anymore

Anyone who can throw their support behind a reckless, idiotic, drunk driving, arrogant jerkoff does not have my respect.

[rman]

171. adoration of movie stars

will solve all our problems.
or perhaps not.