listening to biden this morning, senate hearing with condi

[seabeyond]

i turned on the news. i havent had the news for months, literally. today i turned it on. there biden talks. these politicians are listening. i am hearing him say the things we are angry about. he is on top of it.

there is a lot happening here. our WOMEN and now i am seeing men, they are in battle. and bush so fucks up, they have it everywhere.

he challenged bush bullshit saying they no longer have to be accountable. he is pissed about the " we have bush next four years, get over it, get over it." he looked condi in the eyes when he said

and why is fiengold with condi. i have been feeling battle between boxer and feingold, which type of female we want.

we want a boxer

[BlueEyedSon]

1. Looks like Feinstein is defending Condi....?

:(

[seabeyond]

3. or representing, lol lol lol

but you are right on the defending. exactly. this could be fun this morning. we never get to hear democrats anymore

[rodeodance]

2. Diane Fiienstien (Dem, CA), sitting next to Condi-rattling off her

accomlishments. Wha is that all about?

[BigMcLargehuge]

4. I guess Jello Biafra was right about Feinstein

way back in 1979 when he ran against her for Mayor of San Francisco.

[seabeyond]

5. ah got her name wrong, thank you

knew she was calif. but she works more towards right than boxer.

[rodeodance]

20. but see Russ Feingold (dem, WI) is there also.

[seabeyond]

25. ya, we have been hearing his name lately

i see now why i didnt get it right. threw me until i realized they were talking male and a different state, wink

[rodeodance]

6. Fienstein introduced Condi--odd, prob. cause she knew her from

Stanford. That is all I can make of it.

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[rodeodance]

8. Biden said the same when Consalas was up in front of the comm.

He said he was going thru the motions but will ask touch questions (missed the earlier part with Biden today)

[seabeyond]

9. no way, no WAY.......that cannot be what you got from biden, he

kicked ass. what are you talking about. i think there is a clear battle here. i like what i hear and see. did you listen to all the shit biden said, called bush on. fuck...............

this man said out loud so much of what we are yelling about on this board. that is a good thing. damn good thing

boxer is going further

kerry spoke out yesterday, as much as we would like to diss him

lordy people, cant you see what the dems did in the last two months. lets watch and see., and we can pat ourselves on the back, if that is what it takes for you to see and feel good. they have listened to us. they do not come to what biden said this morning. we know. we have been yelling. and they heard. so cool. lets get to work. i knew ALL ALONg i had a voice

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[seabeyond]

26. i know he said it, i just cannot believe that is all you got

from what the man said. of course they are voting rice,.....she has already been in goverment, she is getting the job. are you suggesting biden hsould vote against the woman. politically i dont agree with that decision

i listened to all of what biden was saying. i saw it as a good thing

[Atman]

11. Biden speaks for the cameras, then rubber stamps BushCo appointees

It is great to hear him blast BushCo. But why the fuck doesn't he actually DO SOMETHING instead of just giving speeches?

[seabeyond]

27. he says it out loud. people have to listen.

he keeps saying. so lets start doing something

what are you people syaing you expect. maybe that is where i am getting it wrong

[spanone]

12. First thing Biden told her was that he will vote for her confirmation.

That takes his balls right off the table. Paper tiger.

[rodeodance]

15. I agree, same ol's same ol'-------what is the point of these heardings

when a leading member says at the beginning that he will vote for her confirmation!!!!!! No matter how hard the qeustions are that follow---her confirmation is in the bag!!!!

[spanone]

23. It's all about television 'face-time'. So constituents can see how...

concerned their senator is for their welfare. It's not-so-reality television.

[seabeyond]

28. same ole? he said lots and lots of new shit. hey

you might want to get the transcript so you can read all the other stuff he said, other than, i am voting for you........

he wasnt talking to condi in what he was saying. he waS TALKINg to bush

i guess we see balls and battle differently. i think he clearly stated to bush what he was getting from dems. i saw balls.

[rodeodance]

13. My point was that Biden essentially started off the same way,-as he said

to Conzalas that he will ask tough questions but he would easily be confirmed. Looks like a rerun with a different person in the hotseat. We will see.

[rachelbirds]

19. Biden DID say it

One of the first things Biden said was "You'll be a fine SOS and I'm voting for you!" I'm watching this at work and there was a collective sigh fom 30 people when he said it.

[rodeodance]

21. I believe you-ok

[seabeyond]

29. of course he did as expected. did you expect him to vote against

her.

what about anything else he said. tell me,........i mean. what are you wanting

we have gone so superficial, talking what condi looks like, one 10 sec flash of biden. and the show hasnt even started yet. can we be more pathetic. where is the intellectual and reasoned discussion on what is being said, what is happening. why go to trash immediately

[dzoner]

14. Reply

Its simple to me:
1- She was in Genoa Italy in June 2001.
2- The major described threat whether real or not but continually babbled at the time on all news shows was the threat of terrorists hijacking jet planes from Rome and crashing them into all those fine international reps. at their conference, Condi included.
3-A fews months later after 9/11 she informs our country that "We" later changed in history to "I", could not possibly imagine anyone crashing jets into buildings.
4- Based on above she is either real dumb or as I suspect a good lier.
5-Based on that she is clearly not qualified to be SOS.....

[rodeodance]

17. she is a good lier--it is that simple to me.

[seabeyond]

30. she is a lousy liar n/t

[Palacsinta]

16. Buh-bye Biden

I, too, used to get excited when Biden would speak.....he had it all;facts, presentation, passion, righteous anger..........I'd expect something to come of it........then, time after time after time after time......NOTHING!

[rodeodance]

18. Biden talks a of tough talk-but few listen-now is going through the

motions.

[seabeyond]

31. you expected something to happen

when biden spoke out, with a media that creates bush story and we hear only republicans. you expected biden to accomplish something with a house and senate repug, and a white house repug

ok, tell me what you expected. for him to take down the senate and white house. what were you expectations

[stray cat]

22. Biden did a great job

Just as you can't stand for everything without being a wimp, you can't protest everything and productively protest anything.

Condi will get confirmed. Nothing will stop that. Presidents are generally given the latitude to appoint their own cabinet. Biden strongly made the points Americans need to listen to. I want a smart senator and not just a loud one who dilutes the important battles by constant rhetoric.

[rodeodance]

24. nicely said

[seabeyond]

32. thank you, i thought it was insightful too

now ........ i think i will stop posting and listen to him questioning. missed all that