No offense to my DU family, but Sen. Biden should go pound sand

[russian33]

However, Biden also had blunt advice for European critics: "I have one simple message: Get over it. Get over it. President Bush is our president for the next four years. So get over it and start to act in your interest, Europe."

[Fenris]

1. What a prickish thing to say

Hairplugs Biden should shut his face.

[Ilsa]

2. I like the line about "...start to act in your interest, Europe."

Sort of encouraging, IMO.

[seabeyond]

3. he was talking to bush, he was laying it down

it was a good thing. biden did good. you guys are really spinning this. he was being sarcastic and ugly. was a dig at bush

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

5. I sure hope...

That you are correct. Trouble is, sarcasm, unless well-crafted, does not transfer very well to the printed word.

[Spazito]

10. If it was sarcasm, it didn't translate, it DID come across....

as arrogant, isolationist and bullying. If Biden was sending a message to bush it ricocheted in a very negative way and was the antithesis of 'diplomacy'.

[seabeyond]

13. i disagree totally.... n/t

[bpilgrim]

24. how persuasive

:eyes:

peace

[seabeyond]

25. read bidens words. he was angry

he went after bush. he said a lot of really good things. was challenging them. i wonder who is mouthing actually watched and listened to what biden said. now that was before dodd and kerry and feingold and then boxer kicking ass. so at the moment i am not remembering a lot of the things biden said, but it wasnt a friendly we love you condi and have faith in you chat with her

[bpilgrim]

31. i have, and watched and listened to them as he said them

it was NUTS... he also prefaced what he said by acknowledging he would ENDORSE her nomination.

peace

[bpilgrim]

22. he was talking to EUROPE.

and was not a dig at bush, i was watching it so i would love to know how you came to that conclusion?

peace

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

4. Sometimes I wonder what he is on.

And then I decide that if I ever find out, I will avoid it like the plague. The boy is all over the map.

[TWiley]

6. Why yes he can go pound sand!

[IrateCitizen]

7. Biden, IMHO, is a stellar example...

... of some of the reality behind Nader's critique of the two parties being increasingly indistinguishable from one another.

I don't agree that they are identical, by any means. However, there are numerous areas in which the distinctions diminish, almost to the point of disappearing. Slavish devotion to corporate interests is one. Foreign policy is the other.

Whether he realizes it or not, Biden is only serving to drive the wedge deeper between the US and EU with such talk. The EU knows that it is in the economic position to start taking a global lead. Comments like Biden's only betray the unease that many of the members of the "establishment" have regarding this diminishing US global power.

[peacetalksforall]

16. Feinstein also.

And NO - in alpha characters - it doesn't go over. I'll have to hear it to judge. Knowing his background, I would assume it was a put-down of Europe.

[demnan]

8. People of Delaware

it's up to you.

[bemildred]

9. He does, a lot. A buffoon in every sense. nt

[Jamel]

11. Disgusting!

I've always known he couldn't be trusted. That's the EXACT statement that the repugs used about the election theft. "GET OVER IT"!!! I bet they're loving him today. Why did he have to chose that phrase? If he's being sarcastic, how can he assume that most people will see it that way? UNREAL

[seabeyond]

27. and he was being a smart ass because they did use it. n/t

[Cocoa]

12. so say something about it

you seem to think the quote speaks for itself, but it doesn't, especially without any context whatsoever.

To me, this quote doesn't mean very much (like much of what Biden says -- and he says a LOT).

[russian33]

14. The quote is from today's Rice hearings...

..at least according to Yahoo...As he told Rice that time for diplomacy is long overdue (and I cheered), he followed it up with a warning to Europe....what part of that sentence, did he think was diplomacy?

[seabeyond]

29. he was pissed and europe was pissed and he was saying to

europe you have to get over it, just like we are being told to get over it, we have bush for four years. he wasnt saying he is happy we have bush. he was saying start thinking about yourself. take care of you

[bpilgrim]

32. pfft... they've BEEN taking care of themselves especially since the neoCON

told everyone to GET OVER IT :puke:

that has been the DLC meme for 4 years now and not only is it NOT diplomatic it is so 910.

peace

[seabeyond]

33. whatever you want to trash biden, go for it

i disagree adn those that didnt hear it, i hope they will reserve judgement until they do

[bpilgrim]

34. i'll post an mp3 later

to make sure all who care to can.

and it ain't about 'bashing biden' it's about calling out our leaders who are ENABLING this crimminal administration and SUPPORTING the ones who STAND-UP to them in word and deed.

you do want change, don'cha?

peace

[seabeyond]

35. of course i do, and maybe you

heard it the way you wanted. maybe i did. but i sat and listened. didnt hear it at all the way you all did. yes he said he would vote for her. so. if that is how we are judging this and all we are judging, he failed you all. not where i am at. i see it as better the devil we know. of course condi is getting in there.

i think yawl are totally off with what he was saying about the get over it

[Jamel]

17. GET OVER IT

I think it's self explanatory. Why did he even have to say that to our international friends? Insulting. They don't have to get over it, anymore than we should. It's a dimissal of our concerns. I'm through with making excuses for the dems. I'll only forgive them if they can prove death threats against them, or some kind of blackmail. Otherwise, there's NO EXCUSE for this!

[seabeyond]

30. you didnt even hear it did you. you dont even know what you

are talking about do you

i am amazed reading this thread

[K-W]

15. Putting quotes in context and providing a source

is the least you can do, especially when you think the quote is meaningful.

I refuse to make any sort of judgement on an out of context quote, I would hope others would do the same.

[bpilgrim]

19. it was during the hearings of the neoCON Condi Rice letting her know

that we need better diplomacy :crazy:

biden is a loudmouth grandstander who is on-board like the rest of our leaders with America's plan to democratize the region at the point of a bayonet just like the imperial Japanese with their Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity plan during WWII.

we even hung a civilian for his role in gov. Hirota Koki during that awful period of history.

i hope these leaders remember that history has a very long memory.

we need to clean house starting with those at the TOP.

peace

[rachelbirds]

18. He already said at the start

that he'll vote to confirm her. He's irrelavent IMHO after that!

[bpilgrim]

20. welcome to the SHOW

bring your barf bags, you're gonna need'em :puke:

peace

[ladjf]

21. I listened to him filibustering for precious minutes. Stalling for

air time, while he should have been asking Rice the hard questions
she deserved. He was intentionally shielding her. The longer he talked, the less time was left for real questions. He's a slimy one and he's not our advocate.

[dansolo]

23. Biden is an asshole

He is a perfect example of what is wrong with the Democratic Party these days.

[jmatthan]

26. We are not going to get over it

It was one of the most foolish things for a Senator to say.

We are not going to get over the war crimes comitted by Americans in Iraq and Guantanamo Bay!!

Jacob Matthan
Oulu, Finland

[jmatthan]

28. Is he going to ask Barbara Boxer to "get over it"?

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