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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 08:20 AM
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87 Billion will buy Bush's reelection.
He will get his money the same way he got his war...the opposition will tuck tail and run for cover. And that money will buy him four more years. Ted Kennedy was asked yesterday if he would oppose this funding and HE DID NOT SAY YES. He said he would put "strings" on it. Here is a politician who has absolutely nothing to lose and he has folded already. Very, very sad.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 11:01 AM
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1. Teddy....
Just say no!
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 11:05 AM
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2. Yeah. I wonder what's going on with him.
NONONONO! He may be our only hope. He's not running and he has a voice...and despite popular opinion on the right, he is a very decent man. I wonder what he's waiting for?
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 11:07 AM
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3. I am afraid many will fall lockstep
in behind Bush* like they did in launching this thing. Shiva, help us all! BTW Hi Raven! :hi:
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 11:35 AM
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10. Hi to you!
This is making me so sad. But as I have said befor, I'm getting the bunker ready...how many people should it sleep? Seriously...it's coming.
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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 11:08 AM
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4. I don't think so
He'll get his 87b. Maybe a little less, if they whittle it down, but that's doubtful.

The Democrats cannot vote to deny the funding. First, they wouldn't win, as they don't have a majority in either house and the Republicans would vote for it, to a person. Second, it would be political suicide for Democrats not to give the funding "to our boys".

Sure, you and I know that the boys don't get it, but that Halliburton does. Nevertheless, any Democratic dissent would quickly be labeled traitorous.

What the Democrats need to do, and what I think they will do, is to excoriate Bush and the GOP every step of the way: demand a repeal of the treasury giveaway, make Bush* account for where every penny of the money is going, lambaste him on his failed foreign and domestic policy, etc. In other words, there's no free lunch, and I think we should put the Boy King through living hell to get this money. And make sure it takes him down a few more percentage points in the process.

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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 11:14 AM
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7. Bush is faltering, and the Dems know it
Let me explain: People are upset about the economy, and Bush goes on TV to announce he's giving $87 billion we don't have TO IRAQ. Not a brilliant move no matter how you look at it.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 11:31 AM
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9. Yep. The money is to buy security (ostensibly)
and politically we have to spend the money. Bush is toast though because he has pursued a bad plan...a very expensive, bad plan.
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 11:10 AM
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5. I disagree
This money will not help Bush. Americans struggling to find a job or raise a family aren't keen on spending $87 billion to build schools in Iraq. And we know this money will explode the deficit even more. I think the Dems are going along because they know Bush is digging a hole for himself. Spending $87 billion on the people in this country might help him; spending that money in Iraq won't. Ted Kennedy is no dummy.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 11:13 AM
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6. *sighs* They fired all the school crossing guards here.
But hey lets send 87 billion to Iraq. We can afford it. I get so mad at this bullshit. Congress should just say NO!
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 11:28 AM
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8. This is one thing
that the most apolitical person in this country can sink his/her teeth into. The economy is in the shitter and chimpy somehow finds $87 billion to give to Iraq. Makes that $400 tax advance kinda paltry, don't it?

Couple that with the neocons wanting to gut the overtime laws again this week and we have the makings of a mess that even Rove can't spin out of.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 11:39 AM
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11. I can't believe that these people are so stupid.
Are they? Or are we? What are we missing here?
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 11:54 AM
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14. His core supporters
probably buy into it. But the so-called "Reagan Democrats" are losing their jobs right and left. This does not bode well for repugs wanting support from the undecided swing voter.

His core undoubtedly agrees with the raping of the Treasury, defunding all those evil Liberal social programs.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 11:43 AM
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12. Give Kennedy credit
along with 21 Democrats, one Republican and one Independent in the Senate who had the guts to vote against this insanity in the first place.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 11:47 AM
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13. I didn't mean to slight him...
I guess I just want more from him now.
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